http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=92K1M1-94sQ


their splash damage is too high....

[quote=Anmol Singh]

I've had the MD as my primary weapon since closed beta. I had it when latency issues caused it to auto-reload when you had half a clip still showing. I had it in chromosome when it started to be good, then I still had it when the occlusion issues started with it and they nerfed the splash range. It was the first weapon I had to proto as a logi before anyone was complaining how OP it was. It wasn't until a month ago that I started speccing into other weapons.

I simply don't know what you guys want the MD to be?

By saying you want a much smaller AoE, you are saying you want a traditionally area denial weapon to be a direct fire that people can fight against as if it were an AR.

By saying you want to have MD users have to aim/hit directly at targets you are saying you want all gunplay to work basically the same.

By NOT criticizing the strategic decision to spawn into a massive death trap against superior numbers you are saying that people should mainly fight in massively boring and non-tactical AR blobs.

You want to be able to strafe-dance with people at 30m in fair 1v1 fights all day. You want all weapons to work the same against armor and shield.

I don't buy the argument that MD wins 1v1 against AR all the time. It SHOULD win against them outside of the optimals, but it should ALSO win against them if they fail to avoid flux grenade damage at closer range. If you can tell me why it shouldn't win in those situations then we can talk.

LOL Dust 514....the only game where players are so bad that they flock to vehemently defend the grenade launcher that has a 5.5 meter RADIUS (not diameter radius this means the diameter is 11.0 meters).

Video removed fk you all... MD is op every where not only in video... spraying and praying with AR still takes more skill than shooting a fking mass driver... the god dam slash damage does all the fking damage and you cannot defend against it since their is a 6m bblast radius...


their splash damage is too high....

6.Ar514
5.True Ar users defend Ars
4. Blast radius on explosives
3. Grenade launcher
2. Stepping on failed QQ attempt(not defense)
1.After termination one can then create new clone.New clones enter battle academy where one my LEARN TO PLAY.

That's pretty simply.

When you touch in direct hit the Blast damage AND direct damage are stacked.
You were touch 4 times IN DIRECT !
Pretty normal that you die.....

That's pretty simply.

When you touch in direct hit the Blast damage AND direct damage are stacked.
You were touch 4 times IN DIRECT !
Pretty normal that you die.....
In urpising we've been totally nerfed (20% of damage and radius)
And don't forget that 4 shots is 3/4 of the mag and the MD has a huge reload.

This weapon is not totally overpowered because alone without Flux a MD can't win a 1vs1 with same skill point.
And there's too much cases where the MD is useless....

-At less than 4 meters the user will kill himself 1/2.
-If the ennemy is higher than the MD it will be almost impossible to kill.
-On PC the MD can't help allies at CQC because it will make a lot of teamkill.
-On shield ennemy without Flux.
-If using flux in 1/2 of cases it will kill the alilies shield if near the ennemy.

The MD is an weapon perfect on squad (squad team MUST destroy the shield before the MD start shooting)

BUT i'm according to the fact than the blast Radius is maybe too much high on the proto version with the Level 5 of use.
It should be retrogated from one level.
(Proto will have the radius of an actual ADV and ADV of an STD.)
The damage is fine don't forget than it's an primary weapon and that if the radius is downgraded the blast damage will be perfet and not abused. and don't forget that it's a weapon with a lot of drawbacks.

And finally than the MD has been nerfed one time ago...

Although hilarious....I dont use an AR...so your point is moot. This isnt a supposed failed QQ attempt. I honestly dont care but am also at the same time astounded at how idiotic the Dust playerbase is. They will defend to death a weapon that is definitely unbalanced in its current state but they are always saying the AR is unbalanced......despite having 0 evidence of AR being unbalanced (vs the many proofs that MDs are in fact unbalanced).

Also you probably shouldnt tell people who consistenly whipe the floor with you to "learn to play". Its fine if you guys want an unbalanced game. We will see more and more people gravitate to using the MDs until either another weapon comes out that is even more OP or this weapon is finally tuned down.

So your agreeing that the blast radius is to high? All that is being called for right now is to change the blast radius on the normal MD to 4.5 (down from 5.5) and the blast radius on the assault MD to 6.5-7.0 (down from 8.25). I dont want the MD destroyed to make it unusable....I just want it to also not be OP as it is in its current state (I have std lvl MD and I just pwn proto suits like they are nothing.......its actually laughably sad).

I think an elegant fix to this would be to change MD operation to something not radius related. This was the same problem the flaylock had too.

1.Failed thread
2.Failed at reading comprehension
3.Failed at ignoring op Ar evidence despite videos and hitscan
4.Failed at group focus panic spray is 1v1 ownage
5.Failed at panic bunny hopping is 1v1 ownage
6.Failed at team getting owned by basic pc
7.Failed at Not finding biomass

Video removed fk you all... MD is op every where not only in video... spraying and praying with AR still takes more skill than shooting a fking mass driver... the god dam slash damage does all the fking damage and you cannot defend against it since their is a 6m bblast radius...

BTW- the only mass driver that is balanced is Assault and breach... but wait those take skill.... thats why evre1 uses EXO or freedom... You guys are noobs trying to defend your OP weapon- i hope it gets nerfed... fk you n have a terrible day...

their splash damage is too high....

I think an elegant fix to this would be to change MD operation to something not radius related. This was the same problem the flaylock had too.

That's pretty simply.

When you touch in direct hit the Blast damage AND direct damage are stacked.
You were touch 4 times IN DIRECT !
Pretty normal that you die.....
In urpising we've been totally nerfed (20% of damage and radius)
And don't forget that 4 shots is 3/4 of the mag and the MD has a huge reload.

This weapon is not totally overpowered because alone without Flux a MD can't win a 1vs1 with same skill point.
And there's too much cases where the MD is useless....

-At less than 4 meters the user will kill himself 1/2.
-If the ennemy is higher than the MD it will be almost impossible to kill.
-On PC the MD can't help allies at CQC because it will make a lot of teamkill.
-On shield ennemy without Flux.
-If using flux in 1/2 of cases it will kill the alilies shield if near the ennemy.

The MD is an weapon perfect on squad (squad team MUST destroy the shield before the MD start shooting)

BUT i'm according to the fact than the blast Radius is maybe too much high on the proto version with the Level 5 of use.
It should be retrogated from one level.
(Proto will have the radius of an actual ADV and ADV of an STD.)
The damage is fine don't forget than it's an primary weapon and that if the radius is downgraded the blast damage will be perfet and not abused. and don't forget that it's a weapon with a lot of drawbacks.

And finally than the MD has been nerfed one time ago...

1.Failed thread
2.Failed at reading comprehension
3.Failed at ignoring op Ar evidence despite videos and hitscan
4.Failed at group focus panic spray is 1v1 ownage
5.Failed at panic bunny hopping is 1v1 ownage
6.Failed at team getting owned by basic pc
7.Failed at Not finding biomass

I think if the skill bonus of the md was changed to something else, everyone might be happy