i have destroyed plenty of proto cal logis with EXO on my new account i started just to test it out... it OPed the OP...

How about +10% Ammo a level I could live with that!!

Sooooooo......

A weapon that is supposed to make you run away from an area is killing you cause your in its area?

The way to deal with MDs.

Run away, and engage at a longer distance.

Charging in his face doesn't work.

That just costs your team a clone.

Try using the MD, and then force your face to realize that they need WAY more skill to get kills with a MD then to Point crosshair at target and spam R1.

LOL no you dont. I use std and it completely pwns proto suits...they dont even stand a chance. I cant even imagine with the proto MD would be like.

Honestly the best fix would be to completely overhaul the weapon. Remove the direct hit bonus and make the gun do X damages at its center with the blast dmg degrading as you move away from the center. Also it should not degrade in a straight light...the degradation should be slow at first and then increase rapidly. If your half way between the max radius for dmg and the center of the explosion you should not take 50% of the dmg...it should be more like 35-40% of dmg and the very edges should barely even tickle your shields.

Damage should be calculated by a gaussian curve imo, I agree direct damage should be done away with.

All explosives should be like this, i've made numerous posts about how explosive damage fall off is not right in this game.

I do also think that the MD is probably mostly OP because it suffers no hit detection issues like most hit scan weapons in this game.

It takes 4 MD rounds to knock out my suit, which is 2/3 of a clip. When a well strafed 1v1 battles can easily go 1.5 - 2 clips of the AR because aiming and hit detection is so bad.

Are you talking about running and gunning solo like you would with your AR, or are you running with the protection of your squad?

Start the base damage at the current direct damage amount, then follow a realistic (i.e. physics based reality) drop-off based on the surface of an expanding sphere. The further away you are the larger the surface of the sphere and the more spread out the shrapnel will be.

That will reward better targeting and eliminate any argument about sloppy shooting being rewarded. If I drop one right at your feet I get 400 HP, if I'm off four meters I get much less. It would probably get a little damage outside the current radius just like the guns get damage past their optimal with fallloff to reflect the fact that the shrapnel doesn't magically evaporate at a set distance.

I would be fine with this....its honestly how the weapon should have worked from the beginning.

Be glad this weapon is hugely nerfed compared to its real life counterpart which has a 15m casualty radius, 5m kill radius, and warheads that can rip through lightly armored vehicles.

Be glad this weapon is hugely nerfed compared to its real life counterpart which has a 15m casualty radius, 5m kill radius, and warheads that can rip through lightly armored vehicles.

And a faster fire rate, and faster projectile velocity, and more ammo, and so and so on!!

I demand realism. Give me a 6 shot cod style noob toon with 6 rounds ready to go and as many extra as I can strap to my power armored body...say...60? Sounds good.

You're so philosophical. please adorn me with more pearls of wisdom.

Video removed fk you all... MD is op every where not only in video... spraying and praying with AR still takes more skill than shooting a fking mass driver... the god dam slash damage does all the fking damage and you cannot defend against it since their is a 6m bblast radius...

BTW- the only mass driver that is balanced is Assault and breach... but wait those take skill.... thats why evre1 uses EXO or freedom... You guys are noobs trying to defend your OP weapon- i hope it gets nerfed... fk you n have a terrible day...

their splash damage is too high....

I destroyed an Surya with a Soma.

SOMA IS OVERPOWER LESS DAMAGE LESS RADIUS LESS SPEED MORE COST MOAR NERF MOAR .

As*holes Your assault rifles don't stop getting buffed Update after update in less than a Militia Mag you make more than 1500Hp of damage at 700rpm or more WITHOUT any skills.
The fact that the RPM is really high make thant anyone in the line of sight take 5/6 bullet at least even in 0.5sec.
I remember than militia got 34 damage approximately i think and it touch at 5% everything shield or armor so i don't count it.
34*5 means 160damage in approximately 1sec or less for only 5 bullet so one weak pression on the fire button.
It's more than a MD blast damage and you can keep firing where we must wait an other second to re-shoot.
You got a better DPS than the MD even without shooting the head.
You can aim we can't.
We must be careful of the distance : Too far we shoot higher. Too close we're dead unless it's a scout.


You're tiring me we're all ok we must reduce the radius to make it a more "skill" weapon and less OP.
But don't say sh*t ! assault rifle is NOT skilled and no weapon is skilled.

first the flaylock, and now this...the mass driver is not OP it is just a very easy weapon to use. easy does not=OP. i will admit the freedom is pretty good, but there are ways to counter it. this is coming fro a guy wh gets first place regularly with NOVA KNIVES. i would say the MD is a good weapon for beginners, but as you said taks no skill to use. i know this becuse i can use every weapon in the game at this point.

Aren't you a tanker?

Sooooooo......

A weapon that is supposed to make you run away from an area is killing you cause your in its area?

The way to deal with MDs.

Run away, and engage at a longer distance.

Charging in his face doesn't work.

That just costs your team a clone.

Try using the MD, and then force your face to realize that they need WAY more skill to get kills with a MD then to Point crosshair at target and spam R1.

And a faster fire rate, and faster projectile velocity, and more ammo, and so and so on!!

you are stupid- get lost.... only way to counter MD- sniper the person from across the map...

Aren't you a tanker?

i have like 50 alts bro...

This is not one of my alts. Do not be mistaken!

Mmmm I want a LAV mounted MD with infinite LAVammo