Also, what part are you complaining about? How your gun is effective against bunched up players backed into a corner? Or how it is good at killing players who 5 other guys are stripping the shields off of? Or are you complaining, like you did in the video, that you get hurt when people chuck explosives at you when you and your team are in a close group?

You are in THE ideal scenario to use that weapon. That is a barrel you are shooting into and the stupid red-dots are the fish swimming stupidly around, having babies, and swimming around some more. Except instead of shooting you are dropping sticks of dynamite into the barrel.

It doesn't support their point to post videos of mass driver users being killed by assault rifles, or committing suicide because you rushed them, or you are standing above them and they can't land a round on you.

Also did you notice how a lot of your kills took at least 3-4 rounds to kill? That's about 20% of your weapon's ammo. And considering that mass drivers take a bigger chunk of nanite clusters from nanohives, that makes them a significantly less ammo efficient weapon.

What's YOUR point now? Did you notice the 10 other blue dots doing damage to the players he was shooting at with grenades, AR fire stripping down shields? Did you notice how long people were spawning at that dumb CRU?

You can't balance around stupid.

That's not exactly my point. This was nearly the IDEAL scenario for using this weapon. You can't complain about that. You have to admit that. If this was a situation where players were running around from all directions, on open terrain peppered with cover with various degrees of high and low ground, and there weren't 5 other blue-dots dropping nanohives in the same 20 m radius as him this would be a completely different story.

The MD shines crazy bright when you force the enemy into a defensive position in a corner. That was this.

How about if MD rounds don't explode if they don't travel a minimum distance?

Its a semi balance, the MD becomes worst at CQC, and also prevents a "friendly" blue berry from walking in front of you and making you splood her self.

The breach could keep the close range fire since it is a CQC weapon.

So you want people to be able to spawn into this situation and just be able to tank an area denail weapon, walk toward the shooter, in a group, and be able to stare him down and plant rounds in his head? That's just dumb. You cannot deny that this was the ideal scenario for that gun.

And I call bullsh*t about 'general direction'. That's a semantics thing. There was literally about 150 cu m of space back there where all those players were spawning. When you have a weapon that has a splash that covers 30% of that area or grenades that cover 70% that is the POINT of area denial.

Why are you making excuses for the enemy that is constantly spawning in there expecting to live under 10 people's fire?

My favorite part of this is that someone from The Unholy Legion of DarkStar is complaining about explosive weapons. Their CEO, CEOPyrex, loves the explosives. (Wish he'd get his Internet fixed. I watch his videos everyday while waiting for code to compile.)

Mass Drivers are very effective again, but so are a lot of weapons. I'm not currently running them and hate when I die to them, or to the AR, another AR, that AR over there and especially to that Forge Gunner hanging out on that tower right above me. Oh, and to those 3 ARs that just came around the corner.

Maybe I'll spec into Mass Drivers again. They harvest so many tears. Been too long since I got hate mail.

That's pretty simply.

When you touch in direct hit the Blast damage AND direct damage are stacked.
You were touch 4 times IN DIRECT !
Pretty normal that you die.....
In urpising we've been totally nerfed (20% of damage and radius)
And don't forget that 4 shots is 3/4 of the mag and the MD has a huge reload.

This weapon is not totally overpowered because alone without Flux a MD can't win a 1vs1 with same skill point.
And there's too much cases where the MD is useless....

-At less than 4 meters the user will kill himself 1/2.
-If the ennemy is higher than the MD it will be almost impossible to kill.
-On PC the MD can't help allies at CQC because it will make a lot of teamkill.
-On shield ennemy without Flux.
-If using flux in 1/2 of cases it will kill the alilies shield if near the ennemy.

The MD is an weapon perfect on squad (squad team MUST destroy the shield before the MD start shooting)

BUT i'm according to the fact than the blast Radius is maybe too much high on the proto version with the Level 5 of use.
It should be retrogated from one level.
(Proto will have the radius of an actual ADV and ADV of an STD.)
The damage is fine don't forget than it's an primary weapon and that if the radius is downgraded the blast damage will be perfet and not abused. and don't forget that it's a weapon with a lot of drawbacks.

And finally than the MD has been nerfed one time ago...

1.Failed thread
2.Failed at reading comprehension
3.Failed at ignoring op Ar evidence despite videos and hitscan
4.Failed at group focus panic spray is 1v1 ownage
5.Failed at panic bunny hopping is 1v1 ownage
6.Failed at team getting owned by basic pc
7.Failed at Not finding biomass

I destroyed an Surya with a Soma.

SOMA IS OVERPOWER LESS DAMAGE LESS RADIUS LESS SPEED MORE COST MOAR NERF MOAR .

As*holes Your assault rifles don't stop getting buffed Update after update in less than a Militia Mag you make more than 1500Hp of damage at 700rpm or more WITHOUT any skills.
The fact that the RPM is really high make thant anyone in the line of sight take 5/6 bullet at least even in 0.5sec.
I remember than militia got 34 damage approximately i think and it touch at 5% everything shield or armor so i don't count it.
34*5 means 160damage in approximately 1sec or less for only 5 bullet so one weak pression on the fire button.
It's more than a MD blast damage and you can keep firing where we must wait an other second to re-shoot.
You got a better DPS than the MD even without shooting the head.
You can aim we can't.
We must be careful of the distance : Too far we shoot higher. Too close we're dead unless it's a scout.


You're tiring me we're all ok we must reduce the radius to make it a more "skill" weapon and less OP.
But don't say sh*t ! assault rifle is NOT skilled and no weapon is skilled.

first the flaylock, and now this...the mass driver is not OP it is just a very easy weapon to use. easy does not=OP. i will admit the freedom is pretty good, but there are ways to counter it. this is coming fro a guy wh gets first place regularly with NOVA KNIVES. i would say the MD is a good weapon for beginners, but as you said taks no skill to use. i know this becuse i can use every weapon in the game at this point.

Aren't you a tanker?

Sooooooo......

A weapon that is supposed to make you run away from an area is killing you cause your in its area?

The way to deal with MDs.

Run away, and engage at a longer distance.

Charging in his face doesn't work.

That just costs your team a clone.

Try using the MD, and then force your face to realize that they need WAY more skill to get kills with a MD then to Point crosshair at target and spam R1.

This is not one of my alts. Do not be mistaken!

Or how about a scrambler pistol, a shotgun, a hmg, a forge, an ar, a scrambler rifle.
MD have a dps 1/3 of AR and you still loose?? What are you doing, you could take 2 sec break to reload, and still beat an MD with the militia ar.

Lol, AR you have to aim. You can miss 3/4 of your clip and still kill. + 1 for effort.

yes MD are a pain in the ass but they are granade launchers. They explode and explosions normally have splash damage there not op if you are moving as a squad and you hear the noise of one fireing spread out concentrate your fire job done. I dont use MDs but would like to but i cant see the point of sinking SP into a weapon that will get nerfed one day.

WHY YOU WANT NERF FOR MASS DRIVER? IS NOT GOOD ENOUGH AS PROGRAMMED FROM CROWD CONTROL PRODUCTIONS? YOU THINK IS NEED TWEAK? THEN MAYBE YOU FIND JOB WITH OFFICE OF CCP SHANGHAI! YOU HAVE DRINKS WITH CCP SOUNDWAVE, TRADE STORY OF MANY GAME DESIGNED, DETAILS OF SCHOOL FOR PROGRAMMING, AND LATE NIGHTS CHASING DOWN BUG!

OR MAYBE YOU NOT DO THIS.

PROBABLY IS BECAUSE YOU NEVER DESIGN GAME IN WHOLE LIFE. YOU LOOK AT FINE CCP MASS DRIVER, THINK IT NEED CRAZY NERF BAT ON ALL STATS OF WEAPON. YOU HAVE DISEASE OF ENTITLED WHINER, CHANGE THING THAT IS FINE FOR NO REASON EXCEPT TO GAIN ADVANTAGE OVER MORE SKILLED COMRADE. YOU PUT MINIMAL EFFORT IN PRACTICE, TURN AIM ASSIST ON, RUN GEAR OF LOWEST QUALITY, THEN COMPLAIN WHEN FANTASY OF BE LIKE AMERICAN MOVIE GUY JOHN RAMBO FALL TO ****. SO YOU BLAME LAST WEAPON TO KILL YOU, THEN ASK CCP TO ADD SEX DILDO TO WEAPON SO MASS DRIVER USER MUST **** OWN ******** BEFORE LOB ONE ROUND.

MASS DRIVER IS FINE. YOU **** IT, IT PERFECTLY BALANCED AND NO NERF WILL GET YOU POSITIVE RATIO OF KILL DEATH. PRACTICE WITH COMRADE, LEARN WEAKNESS AND STRENGTH OF WEAPON, DEVELOP YOUR SKILLS. THEN MAYBE YOU NOT NEED DUMB NERF PUT ON ALL WEAPON TO GET SINGLE KILL.