What's the point? if you die twice, chances are you lost ISK and do you really need proto gear against scrubs fresh out of the academy?

Its your right to use it, but really do you use it because you have to, or because you like going 10/2 instead of 7/3?

What's the point? if you die twice, chances are you lost ISK and do you really need proto gear against scrubs fresh out of the academy?

Its your right to use it, but really do you use it because you have to, or because you like going 10/2 instead of 7/3?

What's the point? if you die twice, chances are you lost ISK and do you really need proto gear against scrubs fresh out of the academy?

Its your right to use it, but really do you use it because you have to, or because you like going 10/2 instead of 7/3?

I have 50 it i die 5 times it really doesn't effect me had 60 early.

Proto suits in pubs are fine, it's when all those proto suits band up with mics and form a 6-man squad against a team of randoms does it become a problem.

What's the point? if you die twice, chances are you lost ISK and do you really need proto gear against scrubs fresh out of the academy?

Its your right to use it, but really do you use it because you have to, or because you like going 10/2 instead of 7/3?

I have more ISK than I know what to do with, so I don't care if I don't make a profit. Besides, the more I die the more you guys make at the end of the match. Win/win, right? :P

I have more ISK than I know what to do with

After reading all your replies I have a serious question; u mad bro?

I could run a suit with less tank and a weaker weapon but...why exactly? If I have a Ferrari I can drive I doubt I'll bother taking out the Prius.

If there were only academy grads in pub matches then maybe it wouldn't be an issue; however I see plenty of proto in pubs, along with tanks, dropships and all other manner of things that is proficient at killing me. Now I could run around in militia gear and die 10 times to prove my manhood, but its really not my style

Also, don't fly what you can't afford to lose. Or deploy what you can't afford to lose in this case.

If you were good, you wouldn't be dying 10x no matter what gear you run.

Right, because the the extra HP is never the sole difference between life and death. Particularly with all the explosive spam.

Lets face, all armies have their Elite troops and someone has to fill that position

Yeah, but still 10x?????

If you had a Ferrari, chances are you'd never get on a stretch of road that can really take the car to its potential... it's a waste.
If you were good, you wouldn't be dying 10x no matter what gear you run.

Speak that truth Gary Coleman. :P

If you had a Ferrari, chances are you'd never get on a stretch of road that can really take the car to its potential... it's a waste..

It is what it is. But seriously, why would you need to use your top level gear in pubs? I think it shows a lack of skill overall. If you need to deck out in the top gear, band in a full squad and camp on nanohive and uplinks it shows how bad you really are.

There is a difference between being successful and being good. Its sad really.

Ironically, most hardcore DUST players are the ones that used to b*tch about Call of Duty, about nobody was playing the objective, and that full teams of top prestige players were just tryhards who sucked at the game and couldn't do well otherwise... now they do it in DUST and its all cool.

because it's hilarious to roll down a hill in a fatsuit slapping down people's freefits?

Because I can?

Because I don't care if I die?

Because I want to harvest tears?

Because I have proto fits and I want to abuse them on people?

I mean if you have a problem with me doing this I'll be happy to stop using proto HMG and swap to my stockpile of Gastun HMGs.

There is a difference between being successful and being good. Its sad really.

This can really hurt a newbie to the game. I also see pros as hard mode, so you have to try hard to kill them.

This can really hurt a newbie to the game. I also see pros as hard mode, so you have to try hard to kill them.

Give me 100,000,000 ISK?

You did say

They earned their suit. Let them do as they please. And most in proto suits don't care about ISK. Trust, if they earned proto suits, best believe they got money to back it (if they haven't spent it carelessly).

Plus, you need a better perspective here. If you go up against protos, look at it as an opportunity to get better. What you learn facing a proto can be used to be effective in this game. I see protos and accept the challenge. I don't care if you got red eyes, I'm blasting away with my "OP" AR

Also, protos are not the Goliaths of this game. In fact, you can take down a proto. But that takes what is involved in the previous paragraph; actually going toe to toe with them and realizing that all mercs bleed the same.

I have more ISK than I know what to do with, so I don't care if I don't make a profit. Besides, the more I die the more you guys make at the end of the match. Win/win, right? :P

It is what it is. But seriously, why would you need to use your top level gear in pubs? I think it shows a lack of skill overall. If you need to deck out in the top gear, band in a full squad and camp on nanohive and uplinks it shows how bad you really are.

There is a difference between being successful and being good. Its sad really.

Ironically, most hardcore DUST players are the ones that used to b*tch about Call of Duty, about nobody was playing the objective, and that full teams of top prestige players were just tryhards who sucked at the game and couldn't do well otherwise... now they do it in DUST and its all cool.

Well, what I'm really wondering is: are some players crutched by it?

Can some players really not top a pub leader board unless they are decked out in a 180k suit?
In a pub, I don't think proto makes any difference in your effectiveness.

I guess it does save you from having a list of fits to scroll through, but I for one like trying random fits in pubs

So, let's just say proto is a crutch. Then what? I don't get the award for the best player in Dust? I'm not challenging myself to scale the peaks of FPS greatness?

How many militia fits have you seen top leaderboards, honestly

As a bit masochist (using weak suits with randomized pistols as my favorite weapons), I see proto-sluts as just a bunch of try hard elitists.

Come brag when you're lonewolfing in militia suits with scrambler pistols and scoring over around or more than 10 kills with less than 4 deaths in an ambush match.

Cowards I tell ya.

F8ck no, I'm the one killing all the Prototypes using my STD setup. I have PRO gear like everyone else, but why use it in a pub? ADV gear is more than enough

What's the point? if you die twice, chances are you lost ISK and do you really need proto gear against scrubs fresh out of the academy?

Its your right to use it, but really do you use it because you have to, or because you like going 10/2 instead of 7/3?

... Real men use MLT.

This is the typical response i see on this forum from people not skilled enough to sustain running proto gear in pubs.

What's the point? if you die twice, chances are you lost ISK and do you really need proto gear against scrubs fresh out of the academy?

Its your right to use it, but really do you use it because you have to, or because you like going 10/2 instead of 7/3?

real men don't need to rely on top tier gear just to beat up on a bunch of unorganized scrubs. all you need really is a squad to run with.

Same principle here. It's still incessant whining from people who can't run proto gear about those who can financially sustain doing so.

10/2? 7/3?.....obviously u need to use proto gear...if u have any with those stats

Also, on a side note. I've ran with Team Players a lot, with and against them, but I've never seen you. Do you not play often?

Not in pubs.. Not anymore, just too burned out. I just use pubs to grind the weekly SP, half of the week its afk and the other half ill play when there is a squad running.

I think it shows a lack of skill overall.

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"Snipers? You don't have enough skill to get into the action."

Speak that truth Gary Coleman. :P

because it's hilarious to roll down a hill in a fatsuit slapping down people's freefits?

Because I can?

Because I don't care if I die?

Because I want to harvest tears?

Because I have proto fits and I want to abuse them on people?

I mean if you have a problem with me doing this I'll be happy to stop using proto HMG and swap to my stockpile of Gastun HMGs.

ISK is infinite in this game. Anyone can afford to run it. If you eventually lose all your ISK to restocks, then you can use a free fit to just earn more...

I've lost over million ISK in games before, sometimes from playing against a hard team or just f*cking off with 180k fit and only using Nova Knives. ISK doesn't matter in this game, it grows on trees.
It's just add an extra phase in the process when you have to re-supply your lost income.

People treating pubs like PC matches are just sad in my opinion... what's there to brag about? Where's the fun? Where's the challenge? Where's the basic improving such as: aiming, map knowledge, flow control , etc.?
It's like the guy who picks on the 4 year old r*tarded girl in Wal-Mart... nothing worth smiling about.

Also, on a side note. I've ran with Team Players a lot, with and against them, but I've never seen you. Do you not play often?

also, very rarely will you see me in proto gear. i dont feel the need to use it to whip up on most teams, excellent squad tactics would enable the entire team to run militia and dominate. advanced gear contains more than enough to handle any pub battle. for the fun times theres a balaks strapped to a gko wit 3x complex damage mods..just for you troublemakers in proto...

If you were good, you wouldn't be dying 10x no matter what gear you run.

Speak that truth Gary Coleman. :P

because it's hilarious to roll down a hill in a fatsuit slapping down people's freefits?

Because I can?

Because I don't care if I die?

Because I want to harvest tears?

Because I have proto fits and I want to abuse them on people?

I mean if you have a problem with me doing this I'll be happy to stop using proto HMG and swap to my stockpile of Gastun HMGs.

I could run a suit with less tank and a weaker weapon but...why exactly? If I have a Ferrari I can drive I doubt I'll bother taking out the Prius.

If there were only academy grads in pub matches then maybe it wouldn't be an issue; however I see plenty of proto in pubs, along with tanks, dropships and all other manner of things that is proficient at killing me. Now I could run around in militia gear and die 10 times to prove my manhood, but its really not my style

Also, don't fly what you can't afford to lose. Or deploy what you can't afford to lose in this case.

I'm so tired of seeing this sentence.

"Proto users show a lack of skill."

"AR users are on easy mode, it takes no skill."

"Mass Drivers? More like Mass No-Skill-Stupidface-Weapons"

"Snipers? You don't have enough skill to get into the action."

"Militia Gear? What are you saving money or something? You obviously have no skill."

I get it. This is apparently a totally skill-less God damn game. Everyone else who isn't playing the way that you want to play isn't as good as you because you are the one with the skill, and they are the one's who really lose, no matter what the scoreboard says.

More officer pubmatchers! I love these guys!

Because you are not just driving a ferari, you are driving it in competition with ppl in prius. So you look like a douche when you roll out your Ferari. Like bringing a gun to a knife fight.