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Niuvo
The Phoenix Federation
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Posted - 2013.08.18 09:10:00 -
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Breakin Stuff wrote:because it's hilarious to roll down a hill in a fatsuit slapping down people's freefits?
Because I can?
Because I don't care if I die?
Because I want to harvest tears?
Because I have proto fits and I want to abuse them on people?
I mean if you have a problem with me doing this I'll be happy to stop using proto HMG and swap to my stockpile of Gastun HMGs.
This can really hurt a newbie to the game. I also see pros as hard mode, so you have to try hard to kill them. |
sammus420
Goonfeet
Top Men.
287
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Posted - 2013.08.18 09:14:00 -
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8213 wrote:
There is a difference between being successful and being good. Its sad really.
No, there really isn't. No one cares what rules you make up in your head about being "honorable" or what you call "cheap." The only thing that matters is that at the end of the round, someone wins. They are the successful party, and no one is going to say "Oh those guys on the losing team are so much better than the winning team!" Likewise no one is going to say "Oh those winners are nowhere near as good as the losing team!" |
THEAMAZING POTHEAD
Pure Innocence.
EoN.
237
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Posted - 2013.08.18 09:21:00 -
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What the f*** else am i gonna do with half a billion isk, buy **** from the player to player market? OH WAIT. |
Michael Arck
sephiroth clones
D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E
547
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Posted - 2013.08.18 09:27:00 -
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Niuvo wrote:Breakin Stuff wrote:because it's hilarious to roll down a hill in a fatsuit slapping down people's freefits?
Because I can?
Because I don't care if I die?
Because I want to harvest tears?
Because I have proto fits and I want to abuse them on people?
I mean if you have a problem with me doing this I'll be happy to stop using proto HMG and swap to my stockpile of Gastun HMGs. This can really hurt a newbie to the game. I also see pros as hard mode, so you have to try hard to kill them.
Does not compute. The reputation of New Eden is that it's a very dark, gritty, and unforgiving place to be.
Also I find it funny that folks praise the difficulty unforgiving game that is Demon's Souls but can't play this without complaining.
Did you listen to the video "Way of the mercenary"?
Quote:
"Combat in New Eden is fast, frentic and brutal. As good as you are, you will die. And when you do, you will reawaken in a clone ready to return to battle; wiser and better prepared for the challenges ahead"
That quote tells you everything that you should expect from New Eden.
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Breakin Stuff
Goonfeet
Top Men.
1160
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Posted - 2013.08.18 09:32:00 -
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Niuvo wrote:
This can really hurt a newbie to the game. I also see pros as hard mode, so you have to try hard to kill them.
A newbie is as likely to survive me in a freefit fatsuit (Standard and militia mods/weaps) as he is to survive me in a proto fatsuit.
Veterans are not newbie friendly. We also don't ask "Hi are you new? Sorry, I'm a year or more vet. you should go play with my friends around Delta. they're all less than three months. Have fun and play nice."
Once the crosshairs center on you, it's over but the crying, doesn't matter if you're proto or freefit due to skills. I still say the answer to newbie issues is veteran squad instructors. |
Dale Templar
TCD ToXiCaTeD
354
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Posted - 2013.08.18 11:07:00 -
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I'm rich. |
Jade Hasegawa
Intrepidus XI
EoN.
49
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Posted - 2013.08.18 11:11:00 -
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Shattered Mirage wrote:Funkmaster Whale wrote:8213 wrote:What's the point? if you die twice, chances are you lost ISK and do you really need proto gear against scrubs fresh out of the academy?
Its your right to use it, but really do you use it because you have to, or because you like going 10/2 instead of 7/3? I have more ISK than I know what to do with, so I don't care if I don't make a profit. Besides, the more I die the more you guys make at the end of the match. Win/win, right? :P Give me 100,000,000 ISK? You did say Quote:I have more ISK than I know what to do with
Me too |
Jade Hasegawa
Intrepidus XI
EoN.
49
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Posted - 2013.08.18 11:16:00 -
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Michael Arck wrote:They earned their suit. Let them do as they please. And most in proto suits don't care about ISK. Trust, if they earned proto suits, best believe they got money to back it (if they haven't spent it carelessly).
Plus, you need a better perspective here. If you go up against protos, look at it as an opportunity to get better. What you learn facing a proto can be used to be effective in this game. I see protos and accept the challenge. I don't care if you got red eyes, I'm blasting away with my "OP" AR
Also, protos are not the Goliaths of this game. In fact, you can take down a proto. But that takes what is involved in the previous paragraph; actually going toe to toe with them and realizing that all mercs bleed the same.
Learn what? most guys aim at proto users and die 2 secs later!
That said one of the best games I had was just after the 1.2 patch, I went 17/10 fighting to defend the objective in domination against proto stompers, yes I died alot but was using a BPO dropsuit and AR so still made a profit and got some nice messges from the enemies at end of the round for how many of them I killed:D |
Jetti Daxcide
Mechanised Enterprise Of War
9
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Posted - 2013.08.18 11:18:00 -
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All you need in pubs is advance if you are running higher than that you are just wasting money and time even if you have proto skills that all the edge you need plus these protos quit if they are getting smashed ie 13ear and all the fags from sephrim(cant spell) |
ZDub 303
TeamPlayers
EoN.
1675
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Posted - 2013.08.18 11:26:00 -
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Sub proto gear sucks.
I don't care if i make money, i just want to have fun grinding SP.
I don't even have load outs without proto gear anymore. I never used them so they just cluttered my selection screen. |
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Lucifalic
Baked n Loaded
55
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Posted - 2013.08.18 11:37:00 -
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Funkmaster Whale wrote:8213 wrote:What's the point? if you die twice, chances are you lost ISK and do you really need proto gear against scrubs fresh out of the academy?
Its your right to use it, but really do you use it because you have to, or because you like going 10/2 instead of 7/3? I have more ISK than I know what to do with, so I don't care if I don't make a profit. Besides, the more I die the more you guys make at the end of the match. Win/win, right? :P
If you ever need a new way to deal with your isk you can always send me some :) |
RevoItZ
No Free Pass
148
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Posted - 2013.08.18 11:39:00 -
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As funny as it sounds using Proto gear in a public match helps me with PC, you get used to the damage you can do and take. You start to get used to backing off and retreating with X amount of health.
Besides I invested the points into it........ I got the money to run it 24/7
And obviously it helps me keep my KDR so people think I'm awesome on the Internet  |
Assert Dominance
Ahrendee Mercenaries
EoN.
208
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Posted - 2013.08.18 11:44:00 -
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8213 wrote:DJINN leukoplast wrote:Proto suits in pubs are fine, it's when all those proto suits band up with mics and form a 6-man squad against a team of randoms does it become a problem. It is what it is. But seriously, why would you need to use your top level gear in pubs? I think it shows a lack of skill overall. If you need to deck out in the top gear, band in a full squad and camp on nanohive and uplinks it shows how bad you really are. There is a difference between being successful and being good. Its sad really. Ironically, most hardcore DUST players are the ones that used to b*tch about Call of Duty, about nobody was playing the objective, and that full teams of top prestige players were just tryhards who sucked at the game and couldn't do well otherwise... now they do it in DUST and its all cool.
Uhh, most of dust vets came from mag. And i would insult myslf running bummy adv gear under any circumstance. |
Another Heavy SOB
Pure Innocence.
EoN.
526
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Posted - 2013.08.18 12:40:00 -
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This question again?
Some of us have hundreds of millions, on multiple characters... while making tens of millions a day from PC Battles, so whats a 180K fit? |
Taeryn Frost
Zumari Force Projection
Caldari State
52
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Posted - 2013.08.18 15:02:00 -
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Hmm...I could take out this F-22 Raptor and engage in a battle. Nah, I might as well take this soviet era Mig, its cheaper afterall. Plus it'll show off my awesome skilz. |
8213
Grade No.2
156
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Posted - 2013.08.18 15:07:00 -
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Well, what I'm really wondering is: are some players crutched by it?
Can some players really not top a pub leader board unless they are decked out in a 180k suit?
In a pub, I don't think proto makes any difference in your effectiveness.
I guess it does save you from having a list of fits to scroll through, but I for one like trying random fits in pubs |
Taeryn Frost
Zumari Force Projection
Caldari State
53
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Posted - 2013.08.18 16:29:00 -
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8213 wrote:Well, what I'm really wondering is: are some players crutched by it?
Can some players really not top a pub leader board unless they are decked out in a 180k suit?
In a pub, I don't think proto makes any difference in your effectiveness.
I guess it does save you from having a list of fits to scroll through, but I for one like trying random fits in pubs
So, let's just say proto is a crutch. Then what? I don't get the award for the best player in Dust? I'm not challenging myself to scale the peaks of FPS greatness?
How many militia fits have you seen top leaderboards, honestly |
Dust Project 514
Pistol King
233
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Posted - 2013.08.18 17:19:00 -
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As a bit masochist (using weak suits with randomized pistols as my favorite weapons), I see proto-sluts as just a bunch of try hard elitists.
Come brag when you're lonewolfing in militia suits with scrambler pistols and scoring over around or more than 10 kills with less than 4 deaths in an ambush match.
Cowards I tell ya. |
8213
Grade No.2
157
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Posted - 2013.08.18 17:23:00 -
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Taeryn Frost wrote:8213 wrote:Well, what I'm really wondering is: are some players crutched by it?
Can some players really not top a pub leader board unless they are decked out in a 180k suit?
In a pub, I don't think proto makes any difference in your effectiveness.
I guess it does save you from having a list of fits to scroll through, but I for one like trying random fits in pubs So, let's just say proto is a crutch. Then what? I don't get the award for the best player in Dust? I'm not challenging myself to scale the peaks of FPS greatness? How many militia fits have you seen top leaderboards, honestly
Almost anytime I use one...
lol, the lack of gun skill is DUST is outstanding. Probably why people came to it, they were no longer getting stomped i other games, here they are a a big fish in a small pond; but mediocre at best elsewhere.
Which is probably why I can excel at this game, lol
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8213
Grade No.2
157
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Posted - 2013.08.18 17:25:00 -
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Dust Project 514 wrote:As a bit masochist (using weak suits with randomized pistols as my favorite weapons), I see proto-sluts as just a bunch of try hard elitists.
Come brag when you're lonewolfing in militia suits with scrambler pistols and scoring over around or more than 10 kills with less than 4 deaths in an ambush match.
Cowards I tell ya.
You shot me the other day with a pistol, a base Scrambler. for some reason it launched my 500m in the air and across the map when it killed me. I watched the whole thing, and it took 20 seconds to land in the redzone
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Rogatien Merc
Red Star.
EoN.
743
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Posted - 2013.08.18 18:16:00 -
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8213 wrote:hackerzilla wrote:After reading all your replies I have a serious question; u mad bro? F8ck no, I'm the one killing all the Prototypes using my STD setup. I have PRO gear like everyone else, but why use it in a pub? ADV gear is more than enough
You OP Stando Stomper...
... Real men use MLT. |
Sleepy Zan
Imperfects
Negative-Feedback
2459
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Posted - 2013.08.18 18:18:00 -
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...so much isk to burn |
HYENAKILLER X
TEAM SHINOBI
181
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Posted - 2013.08.18 18:21:00 -
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8213 wrote:What's the point? if you die twice, chances are you lost ISK and do you really need proto gear against scrubs fresh out of the academy?
Its your right to use it, but really do you use it because you have to, or because you like going 10/2 instead of 7/3?
Why would I care about isk? I dont clown around (vehicle users) in game.
proto still dies to adv gear.
Proto is where the game takes you. Embrace that. |
ZDub 303
TeamPlayers
EoN.
1677
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Posted - 2013.08.18 18:22:00 -
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Rogatien Merc wrote:
... Real men use MLT.
This is the typical response i see on this forum from people not skilled enough to sustain running proto gear in pubs. |
8213
Grade No.2
159
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Posted - 2013.08.18 19:18:00 -
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ZDub 303 wrote:Rogatien Merc wrote:
... Real men use MLT.
This is the typical response i see on this forum from people not skilled enough to sustain running proto gear in pubs.
Its about at the 1million SP mark you can have Fits that are majority PRO gear...
That doesn't take long.
I think what he was trying to say is, real men don't need to rely on top tier gear just to beat up on a bunch of unorganized scrubs. all you need really is a squad to run with.
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Taeryn Frost
Zumari Force Projection
Caldari State
54
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Posted - 2013.08.18 19:21:00 -
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Real men post on forums about how they're the manliest men in their video games.
Maybe one day I too shall become a real man and go 30/5 with my militia fit. Until then~ |
Minor Treat
The Enclave Syndicate
Dark Taboo
50
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Posted - 2013.08.18 19:27:00 -
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8213 wrote:What's the point? if you die twice, chances are you lost ISK and do you really need proto gear against scrubs fresh out of the academy?
Its your right to use it, but really do you use it because you have to, or because you like going 10/2 instead of 7/3?
Keep in mind buddy it is an MMO before its a shooter. But what could be done is possible a better matchmaking system to allow players to be keep with no only their skill level but their lifetime skill points as well. If something could be done with skill level and skill points in public matches than we see a better balance of matches. But as of right now the matches are lopsided. |
ZDub 303
TeamPlayers
EoN.
1677
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Posted - 2013.08.18 19:29:00 -
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8213 wrote: real men don't need to rely on top tier gear just to beat up on a bunch of unorganized scrubs. all you need really is a squad to run with.
Same principle here. It's still incessant whining from people who can't run proto gear about those who can financially sustain doing so. |
Keri Starlight
Psygod9
116
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Posted - 2013.08.18 19:42:00 -
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I don't get this common sense that PRO gear is for PC only, many people don't even play it...
As for me, I run PRO when I want a boost. If my team is struggling, if enemies have solid teamwork and communication, I will wear my CK.0. I will wear it everytime I feel it's needed.
I take public matches kinda seriously and if my team needs the 100% from me, that's the suit to run. |
BLUE WAFFLE TASTY
Hellstorm Inc
League of Infamy
0
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Posted - 2013.08.18 20:05:00 -
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Eris Ernaga wrote:8213 wrote:What's the point? if you die twice, chances are you lost ISK and do you really need proto gear against scrubs fresh out of the academy?
Its your right to use it, but really do you use it because you have to, or because you like going 10/2 instead of 7/3?
10/2? 7/3?.....obviously u need to use proto gear...if u have any with those stats |
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