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Posted - 2013.08.18 05:58:00 -
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What's the point? if you die twice, chances are you lost ISK and do you really need proto gear against scrubs fresh out of the academy?
Its your right to use it, but really do you use it because you have to, or because you like going 10/2 instead of 7/3? |
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Posted - 2013.08.18 06:09:00 -
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Eris Ernaga wrote:8213 wrote:What's the point? if you die twice, chances are you lost ISK and do you really need proto gear against scrubs fresh out of the academy?
Its your right to use it, but really do you use it because you have to, or because you like going 10/2 instead of 7/3? I have 50 it i die 5 times it really doesn't effect me had 60 early.
English, mother f*cker!
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Posted - 2013.08.18 06:13:00 -
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DJINN leukoplast wrote:Proto suits in pubs are fine, it's when all those proto suits band up with mics and form a 6-man squad against a team of randoms does it become a problem.
It is what it is. But seriously, why would you need to use your top level gear in pubs? I think it shows a lack of skill overall. If you need to deck out in the top gear, band in a full squad and camp on nanohive and uplinks it shows how bad you really are.
There is a difference between being successful and being good. Its sad really.
Ironically, most hardcore DUST players are the ones that used to b*tch about Call of Duty, about nobody was playing the objective, and that full teams of top prestige players were just tryhards who sucked at the game and couldn't do well otherwise... now they do it in DUST and its all cool. |
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Posted - 2013.08.18 06:35:00 -
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hackerzilla wrote:After reading all your replies I have a serious question; u mad bro?
F8ck no, I'm the one killing all the Prototypes using my STD setup. I have PRO gear like everyone else, but why use it in a pub? ADV gear is more than enough
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Posted - 2013.08.18 06:37:00 -
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Taeryn Frost wrote:I could run a suit with less tank and a weaker weapon but...why exactly? If I have a Ferrari I can drive I doubt I'll bother taking out the Prius.
If there were only academy grads in pub matches then maybe it wouldn't be an issue; however I see plenty of proto in pubs, along with tanks, dropships and all other manner of things that is proficient at killing me. Now I could run around in militia gear and die 10 times to prove my manhood, but its really not my style
Also, don't fly what you can't afford to lose. Or deploy what you can't afford to lose in this case.
If you had a Ferrari, chances are you'd never get on a stretch of road that can really take the car to its potential... it's a waste.
If you were good, you wouldn't be dying 10x no matter what gear you run. |
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Posted - 2013.08.18 06:55:00 -
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Henchmen21 wrote:8213 wrote:Taeryn Frost wrote:I could run a suit with less tank and a weaker weapon but...why exactly? If I have a Ferrari I can drive I doubt I'll bother taking out the Prius.
If there were only academy grads in pub matches then maybe it wouldn't be an issue; however I see plenty of proto in pubs, along with tanks, dropships and all other manner of things that is proficient at killing me. Now I could run around in militia gear and die 10 times to prove my manhood, but its really not my style
Also, don't fly what you can't afford to lose. Or deploy what you can't afford to lose in this case. If you were good, you wouldn't be dying 10x no matter what gear you run. Right, because the the extra HP is never the sole difference between life and death.  Particularly with all the explosive spam.
Yeah, but still 10x?????
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Posted - 2013.08.18 15:07:00 -
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Well, what I'm really wondering is: are some players crutched by it?
Can some players really not top a pub leader board unless they are decked out in a 180k suit?
In a pub, I don't think proto makes any difference in your effectiveness.
I guess it does save you from having a list of fits to scroll through, but I for one like trying random fits in pubs |
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Posted - 2013.08.18 17:23:00 -
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Taeryn Frost wrote:8213 wrote:Well, what I'm really wondering is: are some players crutched by it?
Can some players really not top a pub leader board unless they are decked out in a 180k suit?
In a pub, I don't think proto makes any difference in your effectiveness.
I guess it does save you from having a list of fits to scroll through, but I for one like trying random fits in pubs So, let's just say proto is a crutch. Then what? I don't get the award for the best player in Dust? I'm not challenging myself to scale the peaks of FPS greatness? How many militia fits have you seen top leaderboards, honestly
Almost anytime I use one...
lol, the lack of gun skill is DUST is outstanding. Probably why people came to it, they were no longer getting stomped i other games, here they are a a big fish in a small pond; but mediocre at best elsewhere.
Which is probably why I can excel at this game, lol
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Posted - 2013.08.18 17:25:00 -
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Dust Project 514 wrote:As a bit masochist (using weak suits with randomized pistols as my favorite weapons), I see proto-sluts as just a bunch of try hard elitists.
Come brag when you're lonewolfing in militia suits with scrambler pistols and scoring over around or more than 10 kills with less than 4 deaths in an ambush match.
Cowards I tell ya.
You shot me the other day with a pistol, a base Scrambler. for some reason it launched my 500m in the air and across the map when it killed me. I watched the whole thing, and it took 20 seconds to land in the redzone
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Posted - 2013.08.18 19:18:00 -
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ZDub 303 wrote:Rogatien Merc wrote:
... Real men use MLT.
This is the typical response i see on this forum from people not skilled enough to sustain running proto gear in pubs.
Its about at the 1million SP mark you can have Fits that are majority PRO gear...
That doesn't take long.
I think what he was trying to say is, real men don't need to rely on top tier gear just to beat up on a bunch of unorganized scrubs. all you need really is a squad to run with.
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Posted - 2013.08.18 20:06:00 -
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ZDub 303 wrote:8213 wrote: real men don't need to rely on top tier gear just to beat up on a bunch of unorganized scrubs. all you need really is a squad to run with.
Same principle here. It's still incessant whining from people who can't run proto gear about those who can financially sustain doing so.
ISK is infinite in this game. Anyone can afford to run it. If you eventually lose all your ISK to restocks, then you can use a free fit to just earn more...
I've lost over million ISK in games before, sometimes from playing against a hard team or just f*cking off with 180k fit and only using Nova Knives. ISK doesn't matter in this game, it grows on trees.
It's just add an extra phase in the process when you have to re-supply your lost income.
People treating pubs like PC matches are just sad in my opinion... what's there to brag about? Where's the fun? Where's the challenge? Where's the basic improving such as: aiming, map knowledge, flow control , etc.?
It's like the guy who picks on the 4 year old r*tarded girl in Wal-Mart... nothing worth smiling about.
Also, on a side note. I've ran with Team Players a lot, with and against them, but I've never seen you. Do you not play often? |
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Posted - 2013.08.18 20:10:00 -
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BLUE WAFFLE TASTY wrote:Eris Ernaga wrote:8213 wrote:What's the point? if you die twice, chances are you lost ISK and do you really need proto gear against scrubs fresh out of the academy?
Its your right to use it, but really do you use it because you have to, or because you like going 10/2 instead of 7/3? 10/2? 7/3?.....obviously u need to use proto gear...if u have any with those stats
No, they need to get overall better at the game and the core skill of it. everyone thinks that gear is what separates the players in this game, but it still comes down to core FPS skills. Developers have been trying to purge the need for skill over the last 10 years, but you can never do that.
I take it personally when someone attempts to go flawless against me. Sometimes I may lose the match, but I can hang my hat that I went 20/4 and the top guy on the other team went 12/3... and I was responsible for those 3 deaths |
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Posted - 2013.08.18 20:34:00 -
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ZDub 303 wrote:8213 wrote:
Also, on a side note. I've ran with Team Players a lot, with and against them, but I've never seen you. Do you not play often?
Not in pubs.. Not anymore, just too burned out. I just use pubs to grind the weekly SP, half of the week its afk and the other half ill play when there is a squad running.
Gotcha. |
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