DUST Search - Proto in pubs

8213 wrote:

ZDub 303 wrote:

8213 wrote:

real men don't need to rely on top tier gear just to beat up on a bunch of unorganized scrubs. all you need really is a squad to run with.

Same principle here. It's still incessant whining from people who can't run proto gear about those who can financially sustain doing so.

ISK is infinite in this game. Anyone can afford to run it. If you eventually lose all your ISK to restocks, then you can use a free fit to just earn more...

I've lost over million ISK in games before, sometimes from playing against a hard team or just f*cking off with 180k fit and only using Nova Knives. ISK doesn't matter in this game, it grows on trees.
It's just add an extra phase in the process when you have to re-supply your lost income.

People treating pubs like PC matches are just sad in my opinion... what's there to brag about? Where's the fun? Where's the challenge? Where's the basic improving such as: aiming, map knowledge, flow control , etc.?
It's like the guy who picks on the 4 year old r*tarded girl in Wal-Mart... nothing worth smiling about.

Also, on a side note. I've ran with Team Players a lot, with and against them, but I've never seen you. Do you not play often?

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8213 Grade No.2 159	Posted - 2013.08.18 20:06:00 - [61] - Quote ZDub 303 wrote: 8213 wrote: real men don't need to rely on top tier gear just to beat up on a bunch of unorganized scrubs. all you need really is a squad to run with. Same principle here. It's still incessant whining from people who can't run proto gear about those who can financially sustain doing so. ISK is infinite in this game. Anyone can afford to run it. If you eventually lose all your ISK to restocks, then you can use a free fit to just earn more... I've lost over million ISK in games before, sometimes from playing against a hard team or just fcking off with 180k fit and only using Nova Knives. ISK doesn't matter in this game, it grows on trees. It's just add an extra phase in the process when you have to re-supply your lost income. People treating pubs like PC matches are just sad in my opinion... what's there to brag about? Where's the fun? Where's the challenge? Where's the basic improving such as: aiming, map knowledge, flow control , etc.? It's like the guy who picks on the 4 year old rtarded girl in Wal-Mart... nothing worth smiling about. Also, on a side note. I've ran with Team Players a lot, with and against them, but I've never seen you. Do you not play often?
8213 Grade No.2 159	Posted - 2013.08.18 20:10:00 - [62] - Quote BLUE WAFFLE TASTY wrote: Eris Ernaga wrote: 8213 wrote: What's the point? if you die twice, chances are you lost ISK and do you really need proto gear against scrubs fresh out of the academy? Its your right to use it, but really do you use it because you have to, or because you like going 10/2 instead of 7/3? 10/2? 7/3?.....obviously u need to use proto gear...if u have any with those stats No, they need to get overall better at the game and the core skill of it. everyone thinks that gear is what separates the players in this game, but it still comes down to core FPS skills. Developers have been trying to purge the need for skill over the last 10 years, but you can never do that. I take it personally when someone attempts to go flawless against me. Sometimes I may lose the match, but I can hang my hat that I went 20/4 and the top guy on the other team went 12/3... and I was responsible for those 3 deaths
Rynoceros Rise Of Old Dudes 509	Posted - 2013.08.18 20:13:00 - [63] - Quote I need some cash cows on the field. This [STARTER FIT] isn't gonna pay for itself. Oh yeah... it does.
BLUE WAFFLE TASTY Hellstorm Inc League of Infamy 1	Posted - 2013.08.18 20:14:00 - [64] - Quote also, very rarely will you see me in proto gear. i dont feel the need to use it to whip up on most teams, excellent squad tactics would enable the entire team to run militia and dominate. advanced gear contains more than enough to handle any pub battle. for the fun times theres a balaks strapped to a gko wit 3x complex damage mods..just for you troublemakers in proto...
BLUE WAFFLE TASTY Hellstorm Inc League of Infamy 1	Posted - 2013.08.18 20:19:00 - [65] - Quote they definately have no skill....doesnt matter how much isk u have. i so enjoy smokin protos with a bpo toxin ar, and runnin 15-25/ 4......good times
ZDub 303 TeamPlayers EoN. 1677	Posted - 2013.08.18 20:24:00 - [66] - Quote 8213 wrote: Also, on a side note. I've ran with Team Players a lot, with and against them, but I've never seen you. Do you not play often? Not in pubs.. Not anymore, just too burned out. I just use pubs to grind the weekly SP, half of the week its afk and the other half ill play when there is a squad running.
THE TRAINSPOTTER ROMANIA Renegades C0VEN 156	Posted - 2013.08.18 20:25:00 - [67] - Quote FW battles take too long to find so i go pub because its the fastest to find a match
8213 Grade No.2 159	Posted - 2013.08.18 20:34:00 - [68] - Quote ZDub 303 wrote: 8213 wrote: Also, on a side note. I've ran with Team Players a lot, with and against them, but I've never seen you. Do you not play often? Not in pubs.. Not anymore, just too burned out. I just use pubs to grind the weekly SP, half of the week its afk and the other half ill play when there is a squad running. Gotcha.
DS 10 Pure Innocence. EoN. 724	Posted - 2013.08.18 20:56:00 - [69] - Quote I think finding your balance between being ISK efficient and doing well is one of the most important aspects in the game. The ultimate goal is to make ISK. I run an advanced suit with my Ishukone Assault Forge Gun every game. Using a Proto suit doesn't change anything as far as how efficiently I take out vehicles/turrets/infantry, so I stick with Advanced and I'm good. I think my fit is around 80k. Half of that is my FG. I use that FG because it 2 shots installations and several vehicles. I can usually take out tanks within my first 4 rounds. This helps the team with being able to focus on infantry instead of both infantry and vehicles. The way the game works is you are penalized financially for using better gear, assuming you die. It's a way of balancing the game. People have accrued a TON of ISK though, so there isn't a real penalty for them. Losing a suit is like scooping water out of a swimming pool with a coffee cup. If you keep scooping, you'll eventually run out of water, but it'll take a long time. A form of matchmaking would be great, but I'm interested to see how they handle it. Keeping all high SP players in a group will pretty much force you to use good gear because of the skill level you'll constantly be facing. Limiting the tier of your suit/equipment/weapons would take away the sandbox experience. I'm interested in seeing what happens. Hopefully it doesn't turn pub matches into randomized PC battle-esque battles.
Nemo Bluntz TeamPlayers EoN. 358	Posted - 2013.08.18 21:01:00 - [70] - Quote 8213 wrote: I think it shows a lack of skill overall. I'm so tired of seeing this sentence. "Proto users show a lack of skill." "AR users are on easy mode, it takes no skill." "Mass Drivers? More like Mass No-Skill-Stupidface-Weapons" "Snipers? You don't have enough skill to get into the action." "Militia Gear? What are you saving money or something? You obviously have no skill." I get it. This is apparently a totally skill-less God damn game. Everyone else who isn't playing the way that you want to play isn't as good as you because you are the one with the skill, and they are the one's who really lose, no matter what the scoreboard says.

Seeth Mensch Damage Core corp. The Superpowers 9	Posted - 2013.08.18 21:04:00 - [71] - Quote Someday, I will have a proto anything... and I will run it and ruthlessly kill everyone I find. Not because "ha ha that was done to me" but because this is a game where we kill each other, and every advantage you have earned the right to is something you deserve to use. (Still get bitchy about being killed the 5th time in a row by that proto Scout and his Nova Knife of Doom, though!)
DS 10 Pure Innocence. EoN. 724	Posted - 2013.08.18 21:05:00 - [72] - Quote Nemo Bluntz wrote: [quote=8213] "Snipers? You don't have enough skill to get into the action." I actually say this when my team redlines the other team and I get killed by a Militia Sniper rifle used by a guy that is 2/12. No... I say that anytime I get killed by redline snipers when we're raping face. If they were worth a turd, they'd get behind enemy lines and drop a slew of uplinks. That makes too much sense though, right?
Sgt Buttscratch G I A N T EoN. 644	Posted - 2013.08.18 21:18:00 - [73] - Quote didn't read the other posts, just the op but look at it from the perspective of a player with proto open, why did they put that much time and effort in, not to use it. PC is dead, just about everyone knows this, that's where we'd like to use it. personally I run a STD BPO suit with elm-7 in ambush, and a number of fits due to situation in the rest. Either way, they run proto cuz they can, because they earned that.
Patrick57 GunFall Mobilization Covert Intervention 50	Posted - 2013.08.18 21:22:00 - [74] - Quote Aria Gomes wrote: Coleman Gray wrote: Lets face, all armies have their Elite troops and someone has to fill that position Speak that truth Gary Coleman. :P
CommanderBolt A.N.O.N.Y.M.O.U.S. 175	Posted - 2013.08.18 21:26:00 - [75] - Quote Breakin Stuff wrote: because it's hilarious to roll down a hill in a fatsuit slapping down people's freefits? Because I can? Because I don't care if I die? Because I want to harvest tears? Because I have proto fits and I want to abuse them on people? I mean if you have a problem with me doing this I'll be happy to stop using proto HMG and swap to my stockpile of Gastun HMGs. Please do! I love seeing people using officer weapons in pub matches. Every time I kill one I know that's made my stock of them every so slightly more valuable. Granted I dont kill that many and its mostly Thale's snipers I take out, but the odd Gatsun or Balacs / Krins are nice too. I dont see many of the Cala's submachine gun. Mmm they are nice. Don't think I have had the pleasure of erasing one of them.
Patrick57 GunFall Mobilization Covert Intervention 50	Posted - 2013.08.18 21:26:00 - [76] - Quote 8213 wrote: ZDub 303 wrote: 8213 wrote: real men don't need to rely on top tier gear just to beat up on a bunch of unorganized scrubs. all you need really is a squad to run with. Same principle here. It's still incessant whining from people who can't run proto gear about those who can financially sustain doing so. ISK is infinite in this game. Anyone can afford to run it. If you eventually lose all your ISK to restocks, then you can use a free fit to just earn more... I've lost over million ISK in games before, sometimes from playing against a hard team or just fcking off with 180k fit and only using Nova Knives. ISK doesn't matter in this game, it grows on trees. It's just add an extra phase in the process when you have to re-supply your lost income. People treating pubs like PC matches are just sad in my opinion... what's there to brag about? Where's the fun? Where's the challenge? Where's the basic improving such as: aiming, map knowledge, flow control , etc.? It's like the guy who picks on the 4 year old rtarded girl in Wal-Mart... nothing worth smiling about. Also, on a side note. I've ran with Team Players a lot, with and against them, but I've never seen you. Do you not play often? HA i lose ISK all the time. Assault dropships are just too much fun
CommanderBolt A.N.O.N.Y.M.O.U.S. 175	Posted - 2013.08.18 21:28:00 - [77] - Quote BLUE WAFFLE TASTY wrote: also, very rarely will you see me in proto gear. i dont feel the need to use it to whip up on most teams, excellent squad tactics would enable the entire team to run militia and dominate. advanced gear contains more than enough to handle any pub battle. for the fun times theres a balaks strapped to a gko wit 3x complex damage mods..just for you troublemakers in proto... More officer pubmatchers! I love these guys!
Nemo Bluntz TeamPlayers EoN. 359	Posted - 2013.08.18 21:31:00 - [78] - Quote I view proto players as boss fights. They pop up, they're hard to kill, but it feels good when you do.
Dr Allopathy Raging Pack of Homosapiens 394	Posted - 2013.08.18 21:34:00 - [79] - Quote 8213 wrote: If you were good, you wouldn't be dying 10x no matter what gear you run. Good is subjective; many people focus on holding objectives and die consistently (while maintaining a good KD). It doesn't mean they're any worse than other players; it makes them a larger asset to the team, while bringing down whatever potential KD they could achieve.
superjoe360x D.A.R.K L.E.G.I.O.N D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E 49	Posted - 2013.08.18 21:49:00 - [80] - Quote Aria Gomes wrote: Coleman Gray wrote: Lets face, all armies have their Elite troops and someone has to fill that position Speak that truth Gary Coleman. :P So I didn't run proto gear for the first 4 months that I played Dust. I saved my isk. Was very patient so now I have so much isk I could run proto in everymatch for the next year probably even If I never got paid. Also ran my proto gear the other day and in 4 matches I died once. I try to protect my proto gear. Double digit kills all 4 times. Some of us worked hard to get the gear and saved so we could run it. Your telling me not to run it lol. Um no

Tech Ohm Eaven L.O.T.I.S. 682	Posted - 2013.08.18 21:55:00 - [81] - Quote Breakin Stuff wrote: because it's hilarious to roll down a hill in a fatsuit slapping down people's freefits? Because I can? Because I don't care if I die? Because I want to harvest tears? Because I have proto fits and I want to abuse them on people? I mean if you have a problem with me doing this I'll be happy to stop using proto HMG and swap to my stockpile of Gastun HMGs. Please do since I love killing heavies running officer gear in my "op" militia fits. But my most fun is killing snipers that are using a Thale plus proto suit and my counter sniper loadout: Free starter fit sniper plus zero SP in sniper= fun Hmmmmm time to make a thread.
Ludvig Enraga KILL-EM-QUICK RISE of LEGION 405	Posted - 2013.08.18 22:27:00 - [82] - Quote Taeryn Frost wrote: I could run a suit with less tank and a weaker weapon but...why exactly? If I have a Ferrari I can drive I doubt I'll bother taking out the Prius. If there were only academy grads in pub matches then maybe it wouldn't be an issue; however I see plenty of proto in pubs, along with tanks, dropships and all other manner of things that is proficient at killing me. Now I could run around in militia gear and die 10 times to prove my manhood, but its really not my style Also, don't fly what you can't afford to lose. Or deploy what you can't afford to lose in this case. Because you are not just driving a ferari, you are driving it in competition with ppl in prius. So you look like a douche when you roll out your Ferari. Like bringing a gun to a knife fight.
BLUE WAFFLE TASTY Hellstorm Inc League of Infamy 2	Posted - 2013.08.18 23:32:00 - [83] - Quote Nemo Bluntz wrote: 8213 wrote: I think it shows a lack of skill overall. I'm so tired of seeing this sentence. "Proto users show a lack of skill." "AR users are on easy mode, it takes no skill." "Mass Drivers? More like Mass No-Skill-Stupidface-Weapons" "Snipers? You don't have enough skill to get into the action." "Militia Gear? What are you saving money or something? You obviously have no skill." I get it. This is apparently a totally skill-less God damn game. Everyone else who isn't playing the way that you want to play isn't as good as you because you are the one with the skill, and they are the one's who really lose, no matter what the scoreboard says. damn well said
BLUE WAFFLE TASTY Hellstorm Inc League of Infamy 2	Posted - 2013.08.18 23:40:00 - [84] - Quote CommanderBolt wrote: BLUE WAFFLE TASTY wrote: also, very rarely will you see me in proto gear. i dont feel the need to use it to whip up on most teams, excellent squad tactics would enable the entire team to run militia and dominate. advanced gear contains more than enough to handle any pub battle. for the fun times theres a balaks strapped to a gko wit 3x complex damage mods..just for you troublemakers in proto... More officer pubmatchers! I love these guys! ...........not gonna ***** about losin em either brotha.....but ya gotta take it...not sayin im the best player by far, but that bad boys a beast to be reckoned with....besides....its all in good fun, and i had bad teammates more than losin officer weaoons
Taeryn Frost Zumari Force Projection Caldari State 59	Posted - 2013.08.19 01:06:00 - [85] - Quote Ludvig Enraga wrote: Taeryn Frost wrote: I could run a suit with less tank and a weaker weapon but...why exactly? If I have a Ferrari I can drive I doubt I'll bother taking out the Prius. If there were only academy grads in pub matches then maybe it wouldn't be an issue; however I see plenty of proto in pubs, along with tanks, dropships and all other manner of things that is proficient at killing me. Now I could run around in militia gear and die 10 times to prove my manhood, but its really not my style Also, don't fly what you can't afford to lose. Or deploy what you can't afford to lose in this case. Because you are not just driving a ferari, you are driving it in competition with ppl in prius. So you look like a douche when you roll out your Ferari. Like bringing a gun to a knife fight. Right... cause all those douches that roll Ferraris and Porsches and Lambos really care what peons in Prius think huh. I mean, would you really care?
Bettie Boop 2100190003 A.N.O.N.Y.M.O.U.S. 105	Posted - 2013.08.19 02:08:00 - [86] - Quote I run what I see the other team running and match them. (for the most part) First off, as a GalLogi I see no point in running the basic suit, the advanced is so much better. I always run proto equipment, makes the suit more expensive, but its totally worth it to run proto hives and uplinks. No one has ever complained about me running proto equipment in a match, If they decide to fix repair tools maybe some day Ill get hate mail about keeping 2 heavies alive while they were slaughtering an entire team and keeping them resupplied. Until then, Ill just make points off of uplinks and Alotek hives in pub matches. Now if I see people using their proto gear and our team is doing alright but needs a hand, yes I will pull out the proto and show off my Freedom..
Tallen Ellecon KILL-EM-QUICK RISE of LEGION 538	Posted - 2013.08.19 02:36:00 - [87] - Quote If PC was the NFL, then I'd look at pub matches as a casual game, like backyard football. Wearing proto is like wearing full padding. If you want to bring Pro level gear when your opponent does not, I guess you can, but it's overkill, unless you just suck.


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