True. Each Dropsuit should have about the same HP and total slots with only a difference in their distribution and secondary attributes. Like EVE.

From reading between the lines, I suspect the racial trend will be:

Caldari: skirmishers + long-range weapons
Minmatar: skirmishers + short-range weapons + speed whoring
Amarr: bricks + Decent Short and long range options + more brickishness added for fun
Gallente: bricks + short-range and violently powerful weapons

Obviously there's nuances I'm not expanding on here, and it's a bit hand-wavey, but the gist is there.

Definitely agree that changes to armor modules should have come with a change to dropsuit base attributes. It is not just the Amarr either in case anyone thinks I'm bias, I'd like to point towards that "If 1 shield HP = 2 armor HP" thread stating that Gallente suits should have higher base armor.

Well 1shield = 1.3 armor. Therefore basestats Gallente should be 120/275 and Amarr 140/325.

210(1.3)= 275
180(1.3) + 90= 325
180/1.3= 140

All numbers are rounded up to the nearest multiple of 5.

This coupled with passive armor repairs, or a buff to armor repair modules would probably be the last steps into achieving balance.

Interesting, so you'd extend those same numbers to the Commando, Logi, Heavy, etc.?

Probably want to rethink the slower + more armor thing for the Amarr Scout as well.

Minmatar Assaults clock in at 5.3 move 7.4 sprint
Gallente Scouts clock in at 5.5 move 7.6 sprint

That doesn't leave much space for a scout that's noticeably faster than an assault but slower than the Gallente (as they've been doing it).

This could possibly make a 1.5 update... or a hotfix.

Keep in mind the amarr assault sprints for 5 seconds longer than any other assault.
Also the skill bonus to amarr weaponry from the assault bonus cannot be overlooked, it basically make the standard laser rifle=proto but with easier fitting and less feedback damage. It also enables 4 consecutive charge shots out of the scrambler rifle before overheat.
Also it has respectable cpu/pg output compared to othe races, and when you look at it in relation to the lower number of module slots, it means amarr can easily fit the highest level of everything on their suit.
Of course, because this is my suit of choice, I won't stop you from asking for a buff -.o

Worth mentioning... amidst the storm of one billion 1.4 posts.

Would you expect the quickest snail to be faster than a standard swallow?

But you're right, no one is forced to stick with Amarr suits just because they're Amarr. That means the Amarr Scout needs to be genuinely better at something than the Slave Assault is to have a niche to exist in.

By the way, I have concluded that the Amarr Std Logistics suit is rather worthless due to a lack of fitting resources. In comparison to the Amarr Assault the logistics suit gets 1 PG and 20 CPU to fill an extra equipment slot and a low slot. Any other race's Logistics suit is way more useful.
To anyone thinking up an answer to this issue: Don't reply with the idea of using a PG-mod on the low slot. That would take up at least 14 CPU just by itself.

Whilst the 30hp extra may not be worth the speed loss I don't think it needs an extra slot because it has an absurd amount of cpu/pg in comparison to the other suits. This basically equates to the other suits needing to run a fitting mod to keep up with it bringing them down to 6 total slots like the Amarr suit.

1 complex extender
2 complex damage or 2 more extenders
2 enhanced plates
1 complex repper
duvolle
six kin
core locus
k-2

Now im more than positive than no amount of core skills or cpu/pg reduction skills will allow you to fit that onto another assault without a fitting mod, hell I think you would probably need a cpu and pg upgrade cause that basically maxes my 453 cpu and 92 pg and the other medium suits cant touch that.

You absolute heretic. Armour tank the Amarr suit like it was meant to be tanked.

Above I was specifically talking about the standard level Amarr Logi. Do you think it fares well compared to other Logi suits too? I've noticed that the advanced and prototype variants seem to have enough of really quite everything.

Regarding the Amarr Assault:
I've recently gained level 3 in Amarr Assault and noticed a very steep increase in performance in relation to using the advanced basic suit. That weapon bonus is extremely potent with a Scrambler Rifle. Completely changes the game in relation to e.g. the Caldari +2% bonus to shield extenders. I'm not missing those ~60 hp and 0.2 speed my Amarr fit lacks on a comparable advanced Caldari or Gallente suit right now.

This may change when people realize that an Amarr merc not shooting at you in the first 500 ms of a fight does not imply friendliness.

Devs recently announced some adjustments to how armor plates will function, this includes adjusting speed penalties and HP awarded.

The concern here is that there's an existing armor "paradigm" that seems to assign the hp totals to suits.

The general theme for suits across races is something like:

Amarr: most HP, slowest, has fewer slots.
Caldari/Gallente: Middle HP, Caldari are weighted towards shields, Gallente are weighted towards armor... both are faster than Amarr
Minmatar: Least HP, fastest, not necessarily the most slots though

So, you pay twice for a hp boost: you move slower (as if you were armored) and you have fewer slots (as if you have a pre-existing armor plate added that takes up space). However, if the standard armor plates are capable of giving more hp, with less penalty... does both missing a slot and having less speed make sense for what are not very large hp bonuses?

Probably would if the suit wasn't so flexible in its tanking options, hell running 3 extenders, 2 regulators and a complex rep nets you 600+ ehp with 443 shields starting recharge after three seconds, a fun fit I use often and very much in line with the Amarr ideals.

seems to me everyone in this thread is ignoring the higher cpu and pg and disreguaring the higher hitpoint amount as pointless... then remove the high cpu and pg from the amarr and add another low slot fixed...

Coplex armour plates on a gallente suit armed with an Imperial Scrambler Rifle backed up by a good logi = death machine.

Unfortunately the Amarr don't armour tank.

1st off:assault suits have 7 slots , EVEN MINMATAR.Amarr has 6
2nd: You are missing the point on how beautiful Amarr tech actually is:

-You look badass
-You have MORE HP (with passives, up to 450)
-You have SCOUT LEVEL stamina (no need for cardiac regulators like other suits)
-You have LOGI level CPU/PG. So even with 1 less slot you will never have to equip some cpu enhancer or Pg e. like other sad assaults might have to.
-20 Shield regen per sec is good (up to 25 with assault bonus)
-The 5% heat builup reduction for laser/scrambler weaponry is a big load of **** unless you are using laser weaponry.Then you DO have a great advantage there.


This is stuff other asaults DONT have. heh.....Amarr is IMO the best of assault suits,if you are using laser weaponry that is.....

The amarr assault DOES NOT need a buff. a 0.01 sprint speed and a 0.02 movement speed is all i take.
If not, dont touch it.