You can't look at the stats in a vacuum either, it would be a bit off to only adjust the Amarr suit. Ballpark though, I was thinking something along the lines of 30-40 more base hp on the Amarr, and keep the speed penalty as-is. Probably something like 15-20 more to the gallente.

This would make for a difference of about 60hp with the caldari, but around 40hp-ish difference with the Gallente for the same speed hit (4%) as is current. That would still be less than the hp of a basic armor plate (85) with twice the speed hit (2%).

I've been trying to avoid concrete specifics on numbers because I kinda assumed they'd be redoing ALL the hp after they got around to the armor rebalance, and I was surprised that this wasn't the case. Some amount of the advantage of movement seems to have been lost with the AA being where it is too though.

Edit: As an aside about Minmatar specifically, I am somewhat iffy about how well they fill their role as the "versatile" race. The speed and lower hp is fine, but I would've expected their suits to have some marginal scanning/profile type bonuses and/or an extra slot (but not fitting) to reflect their supposed greater versatility. Instead, they're just a fast suit with somewhat higher fitting than Caldari/Gallente.

For some reason, I imagined that these several pages would be after a bit more than 30-40 more hp. That seems like a "safe" increase, though hardly momentous. 15-20 more for Gallente too, huh?

I could see improvements to scan/precision/profile for Minmatar suits... kinda like their ships I guess.

Sweeping changes must be avoided. Once CCP gets the impression that something needs to be done they'll first turn the Amarr suits into the feature of the month and just weeks later hit it with the nerf-bat until it is useless. The bigger the buff, the larger the following nerf. See small missiles or TAC ARs for reference.

Regarding heavy suits I guess we haven't seen the other racial heavy suits yet, so we can't compare the Amarr ones with anything in their class.

If they're rebalancing armor/shields as they seem to have been (compensating hp for the fact you can't regen armor super-fast), it does seem fair to have "slight" suit adjustments. The small tweak to Gallente/Amarr suits is probably fine (not sure if I'd go much higher than 40hp adjusting things).

Whomp.

Devs recently announced some adjustments to how armor plates will function, this includes adjusting speed penalties and HP awarded.

The concern here is that there's an existing armor "paradigm" that seems to assign the hp totals to suits.

The general theme for suits across races is something like:

Amarr: most HP, slowest, has fewer slots.
Caldari/Gallente: Middle HP, Caldari are weighted towards shields, Gallente are weighted towards armor... both are faster than Amarr
Minmatar: Least HP, fastest, not necessarily the most slots though

So, you pay twice for a hp boost: you move slower (as if you were armored) and you have fewer slots (as if you have a pre-existing armor plate added that takes up space). However, if the standard armor plates are capable of giving more hp, with less penalty... does both missing a slot and having less speed make sense for what are not very large hp bonuses?

Amarr have their lazoors and still over and above that the have thermal resistance which more than makes up for any speed loss.

If you actually expect them to fix this

Scouts have been on the receiving end of this for just as long.

We have less eHP (standard suit for minnie has 100 shields 70 armor BASE), less slots (5 at proto compared to 8 or 9 on assaults) and Gimped CPU/PG. All for what? Slightly higher movement speed and sprint speed (12% increase roughly?) and profile dampening (OUR ONLY SAVING GRACE)

They just don't know how to balance a specialized suit. They don't want it to be OP (like the cal Logi used to be) so they are erring on the UP side. Which just gets old after it not being fixed after 5 patches and beta.

I think this sort of change is within the scope of the sort of things they could hotfix.

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I just wanted to throw in my support.

For being the best armor buffer tanks in eve, this is pretty wrong. either give amarr back their missing slot, or seriously boost the innate ehp advantage. It is ridiculous that we give up an entire slot for 30 HP.

I can see sacrificing speed for stamina, but an entire slot for 30 hp?