As I walk through the valley of the shadow of Dust, I will fear no murder taxi. For Lai Dai's are with me

Yeah, sometimes their acceleration is too ridiculous for words but it doesn't bother me too much outside of the occasional AV nade missing the mark, which is perfectly normal.

I would maybe be in favor of a minor tweak, for the sake of the true LAVs being lighter and more nimble than the working man's LLAV in most fits, but overall I feel like they're not terrible, just abused.

Couldn't disagree more.

They used to be coffins because a single AV nade would kill it before it got to you. They are murder taxis now because they have enough health to get through that single AV nade. Even if you're prepared for handling one, if you happen to be on about 90% of a Dust map where you're in an open field, you're looking at a pretty high likelihood of getting bumpered.

I don't think LAVs should die in a single nade. But I also don't think LAVs should be feared because of their front bumper, not the gun on top. That's why the perfect solution (that everyone seems to disagree with for some unexplainable reason) is to remove collision damage from LAVs.

LAVs weren't UP, if they were it was just barely. I think we ran them together often enough to know that.

Removing collision damage just feels like too much of a bandaid. Skydivers don't have the ability to just turn off fall damage to make it more convenient to sky dive and it would feel kind of cheap if they just removed the damage of being hit at 80mph by a 3 ton vehicle

Nah, the LLAV back then is no different from the LLAV now except for popularity and handling. Literally no one ever saw LLAVs back in Chromosome. All you saw were Starter Fits, the ones that could get taken out by one nade.

I rocked a tanked Methana in chromosome and it was no coffin on wheels at all. It had jumped up resistances and polycrystalline plates up the yin yang. The thing got me orbitals from turret kills and roadkills. It could eat up a forge and railgun shot like rice krispies.

but toning down acceleration to a median of Chromosome and Uprising seems like a close to reasonable fix before the community tears LAVs to nothing again.

Removing collision damage just feels like too much of a bandaid. Skydivers don't have the ability to just turn off fall damage to make it more convenient to sky dive and it would feel kind of cheap if they just removed the damage of being hit at 80mph by a 3 ton vehicle

Its a video game.
On that same point of "feeling kind of cheap", the lack of friendly fire 'feels kind of cheap.' I mean, you're shooting the same bullets, why does it matter what target it hits? Oh... because it would be exploited in a way that would make the game less fun?

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This bumper cars **** is a clear example of shoddy game design. I'm sure CCP didn't expect or want it to be playing out the way that it is, but that's why they need to reconsider some things and make some gameplay improving tweaks.

Yes but you see the reason why they are so good at charging people is because they have superman acceleration right now. Chromosome, you deserved the roadkill. Uprising? Like shooting fish in a barrel.

Nah not quite, im in favor of FF myself but it hasn't been a part of this game for the longest so it's a little different IMO. Yeah I think it cheapens the game, but it's either ON or OFF so I dont think it's up for as much interpretation as the LAV's and whatnot.

Its ON for enemy bullets, grenades, turrets, etc. Its OFF for collision to promote the LAVs to be used as light armored troop transports with a gun on top.

In what way, other than the cattle cry of "it doesn't make sense", would this not totally and utterly fix LAVs to be what they're described as by CCP?

As a frontline Logi and occasional LLAV turret gunner, I think that LAVs are fine as is. Since the removal of free cars, I am seeing more Saga murder-taxi's than LLAV murder-taxi's. Yes, I DO get pissed when I am run over, BUT it reminds me to check my play style and then adapt-and-overcome. Play with a good squad and you will fear no one!!! No murder-taxi, HAV, HMG, or redline sniper!! Our squad regularly takes down all types of vehicles!! Heck, just last night we took down 2 Charybids in one match. And as an added bonus, they were in the enemy spawn AND we hacked them!! There are many more options than just sitting around getting run over and then complaining. Just my $.02 ISK.
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Oh yeah we knew, but everyone else just didn't think like us. I'm trying to appease the community within reason to save the LAV. People are trying to remove collision damage and health!

Have you ever tried operating an LAV turret while it was moving? It's impossible, and then LAVs would be UP because the wouldn't be able to move and kill that heavy with a forge in the road. They'd have to come to a crawl for the turret to get it and by then KABOOM. People would find exploits (standing in front, getting pushed and while getting pushed headshot the driver.

I like LAVs too (don't drive em so much) but people are going to have their nerf one way or another and this acceleration nerf I propose seems like the best interest for all. Cuts down on "OPness" of LAV roadkills while keeping LAVs at a good place.

You can't fix stupid. Most of the community never learn for themselves, but instead chase the FOTM.
How much do you wanna bet lasers are next (again)?

May be good since there is the option to skill up overdrive and nitrous. This could bring the acceleration back up to what it is now allowing a 'perk' to those that decide to put all their skillpoints into vehicles.

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