OP at proto/proficiency levels

uh............

what?

Can I be a maybe just to be awkward?

what?

You don't need the maybe to be awkward. :P

I'll be a not OP then.

I'll put that under OP i suppose. Just wondering where to put that. I was going to make another column but that would be sort of an undefined column of strange answers that are neither yes nor no. However it appears you have a fundamental problem with the weapon itself so i'll put it under OP.

No debate just say whether you think it's OP or not. I'll track the list here.


OP
xxwhitedevilxx M




Not OP
Me
KAGEHOSHI Horned Wolf
Cosgar
Scheneighnay McBob
cedz636
Michael Arck
Casius Hakoke
Fire of Prometheus
TheAmazing FlyingPig
castba
John Demonsbane
gbghg
FLAYLOCK Steve
Manwad


Maybe because he's awkward
gbghg


Edit: I'll be adding names to the list every few minutes because it won't let me edit quickly enough.

Not OP, and I'm an armor tanking laser rifle user. Lasers counter MD pretty well.

well, what i really mean is that: full proto AR/Scrambler vs Mass driver on medium/short ranges mass drivers has more chance to win, many more. First off it force AR/scrambler to hip fire (because if you aim and a mass driver hits you it offset your weapon) and strafing much more (because of blast radius), while MD user can strafe/run much more without having to aim too precisely. It is manageable to beat a basic/advanced MD user, but it's definitely much harder to beat a proto/proficiency MD. Compared to all other guns, it looks OP to me.

the weapon itself isnt op.
but the splash damage to shields is. this should not take 2 shots to kill a fully armed proto.
as i said the weapon itself isnt op i think its great but the splash damage is definetly op. and those who disagree to bad.
its funny how the flaylock wasnt op when majority of the nubz were using it but now that its gone you all jump to the next bandwagon item. lol shame on you but im not mad i actually expected this and knew it would happen. all these scrubs who call themself elite or good players arent shat without FOTM weapons.
these guys are the same ppl who used Tac rifles, OP LAV's, FLAYLOCKS, and now the wonderful mass drivers.
you guys who ***** about it being op all you have to do is adapt or die and to those who use it.. well shame on you for knowing its power and exploiting it.
but all in all its ccp's fault not the player. nuff said.

Simple yes or no. Idc about your b*tching. All I see is you couldn't change your tactic. Again op said no debate just no or yes so gtfo.

Assault MD is the OP one. The others are ok. I tried the EXO and it blows vs shields, and you have to actually track your enemy and land the shot. The assault? 8m splash radius with more clip and higher RPM for easy bomb spam fest.

-XOXO

the weapon itself isnt op.
but the splash damage to shields is. this should not take 2 shots to kill a fully armed proto.
as i said the weapon itself isnt op i think its great but the splash damage is definetly op. and those who disagree to bad.
its funny how the flaylock wasnt op when majority of the nubz were using it but now that its gone you all jump to the next bandwagon item. lol shame on you but im not mad i actually expected this and knew it would happen. all these scrubs who call themself elite or good players arent shat without FOTM weapons.
these guys are the same ppl who used Tac rifles, OP LAV's, FLAYLOCKS, and now the wonderful mass drivers.
you guys who ***** about it being op all you have to do is adapt or die and to those who use it.. well shame on you for knowing its power and exploiting it.
but all in all its ccp's fault not the player. nuff said.

Assault MD is the OP one. The others are ok. I tried the EXO and it blows vs shields, and you have to actually track your enemy and land the shot. The assault? 8m splash radius with more clip and higher RPM for easy bomb spam fest.

-XOXO

as i said.
the splash damage is op. i dont know what game your playing but it obviously isnt the same dust im playing.
as a closed beta tester ive been through the ins and outs of this game. the splash damage is definetly op it takes 2 shots from the exo to kill my shields and i run a proto assault cal suit with 500 plus shields and it 2 shots my shields trust me dude.
as i said the weapon isnt op but the splash damage does a hell of alot of damage to shields.
the combo of flux and md is just an easy way out for TRYHARDS to get a one shot kill as i tried this today and it did just that.
a word of advice my friend dont ask a question expecting to get a half a$$ answer.
and dont be a smart off behing a keybored either. your welcome.

How do you fight? fight from above or at long range the AR shines in those senarios.

I'll vote op; for those who actually wanna read my reasoning here is why.

I'm an armor tanker and I know massholes are supposed to be the bane of my existence but they are a bit too effective if I'm not extremely careful or lucky when I notice one is around. If I don't notice one is around they might as well be a HK4M from chromosome that has just snuck up behind me; I'm utterly boned. I have 500+ Hp on my STD pub suit and 600+ on my advanced and with either it takes 3-4 shots of splash from ADV massholes to annihilate me. Now there are plenty of people better then me I'll be the first to admit that, and we have all accepted that armor tanking is a bit UP at the moment; but with how strong it is massholes are gonna see a huge increase in the next week thanks to the 2X SP and I really don't look forward to that.

Now before you go "You don't use it your opinion is invalid, you just need to HTFU or get good." your somewhat right; I don't use it. However my opinion of of how OP MDs is isn't completely uninformed and comes from Havok Director Gideon; he has been a dedicated masshole since early chromosome or even a little before, he even used the MD at the beginning of uprising and said it wasn't that UP just needed tweaking. He will be the first to tell you that it's OP without a doubt; he even says he uses it more often now so more people will see it, use it as this FOTM, and the nerf will come all the faster so it isn't another godlock situation. Honestly I'm with Gid on this one and want to see the MD work as intended and be effective in the right hands; not be just another AOE ''noobtube', I want DUST free of that old FPS cliche so it can grow into something much more grand.

Vae Victis

Edit: fixed spelling errors.

How do you fight? fight from above or at long range the AR shines in those senarios.

Not OP

i got proto ARs and MD, and the AR is around 3x better. The duvolle can oUT gun a MD in a straight fight any day of the week, how this is the way it should be, its worse all round than the AR but in group standoffs, and closed spaces it excels.
Exactly the way a gun should operate, it excels at its niche but is useable all round while being much not nearly as effective as the AR all round.
When i meet an enemy MD its extremely easy for me slay him, because i can outgun him, and position myself to make him virtually useless.

The scrubs who are stacking armor, slow as snails w/ bad gun game will say its OP though.

Not OP

i got proto ARs and MD, and the AR is around 3x better. The duvolle can oUT gun a MD in a straight fight any day of the week, how this is the way it should be, its worse all round than the AR but in group standoffs, and closed spaces it excels.
Exactly the way a gun should operate, it excels at its niche but is useable all round while being much not nearly as effective as the AR all round.
When i meet an enemy MD its extremely easy for me slay him, because i can outgun him, and position myself to make him virtually useless.

The scrubs who are stacking armor, slow as snails w/ bad gun game will say its OP though.

Yes because getting all the people from a MD channel to protect their crutch proves something, LOL!


EDIT- This might as well be a list of scrubs that require a crutch.

Yloving,ecause getting all the people from a MD channel to protect their crutch proves something, LOL!


EDIT- This might as well be a list of scrubs that require a crutch.

bumpedy
i love how xero is all alone, QQing about the MD while no one cares.
the poll just proves it, WAAAY more people think the MD is fine while QQers just whine louder.

Um who are you?

You know this game isn't life right out of your mom's basement is life.

No No, let him take pride in his amount of likes which shows he trolls forums more than going outside.
My god, that's probably true. Jesus.

Not op

Not OP
<~~~ Heavy

I'll vote op; for those who actually wanna read my reasoning here is why.

I'm an armor tanker and I know massholes are supposed to be the bane of my existence but they are a bit too effective if I'm not extremely careful or lucky when I notice one is around. If I don't notice one is around they might as well be a HK4M from chromosome that has just snuck up behind me; I'm utterly boned. I have 500+ Hp on my STD pub suit and 600+ on my advanced and with either it takes 3-4 shots of splash from ADV massholes to annihilate me. Now there are plenty of people better then me I'll be the first to admit that, and we have all accepted that armor tanking is a bit UP at the moment; but with how strong it is massholes are gonna see a huge increase in the next week thanks to the 2X SP and I really don't look forward to that.

Now before you go "You don't use it your opinion is invalid, you just need to HTFU or get good." your somewhat right; I don't use it. However my opinion of of how OP MDs is isn't completely uninformed and comes from Havok Director Gideon; he has been a dedicated masshole since early chromosome or even a little before, he even used the MD at the beginning of uprising and said it wasn't that UP just needed tweaking. He will be the first to tell you that it's OP without a doubt; he even says he uses it more often now so more people will see it, use it as this FOTM, and the nerf will come all the faster so it isn't another godlock situation. Honestly I'm with Gid on this one and want to see the MD work as intended and be effective in the right hands; not be just another AOE ''noobtube', I want DUST free of that old FPS cliche so it can grow into something much more grand.

Vae Victis

Edit: fixed spelling errors.

The mass driver itself may be fine, but explosives splash damage calculation and damage bonuses are not fine.

period.

This extends to grenades, flaylocks, missile turrets, REs, even swarm launchers (for the damage calcs)

Until splash damage is fixed, it will be abused and exploited until it is nerfed into the ground. Lets just look at missile turrets, REs, and contact grenades as examples of that.

It's just that Armor is weak and I agree. It's needs a major buff.

As long as you can fire the MD in a group of people that are engaged in CQC and only damage the enemy with it and have your own people take no damage, it is OP.

But as soon as those FW changes come in i will never play a pub match again and then we'll see how happy the bluedots are getting killed from their own people spamming MDs.

As long as FF is not enabled this weapon is just a noobtube that requires little to no skill to use effectively.

OP

You are missing people on OP If I really wanted to go through all the post I would but too lazy. I do know Middle Management and Semper Fi agree it's a monkeys weapon that anybody can play with it.