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ZDub 303
TeamPlayers EoN.
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Posted - 2013.08.08 06:49:00 -
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OP? eh.. debatable
Exploitable and currently being exploited? I certainly think so.
Gonna just copy pasta this over from the other thread I posted it in.
Quote: The mass driver itself may be fine, but explosives splash damage calculation and damage bonuses are not fine.
period.
This extends to grenades, flaylocks, missile turrets, REs, even swarm launchers (for the damage calcs)
Until splash damage is fixed, it will be abused and exploited until it is nerfed into the ground. Lets just look at missile turrets, REs, and contact grenades as examples of that.
To be fair, I think grenades are being exploited too. PC is plagued badly by grenade spam for the same reasons. |
Ludvig Enraga
KILL-EM-QUICK RISE of LEGION
317
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Posted - 2013.08.08 06:55:00 -
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Not OP - still weaker than AR. |
Argo Filch
Cannonfodder PMC
45
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Posted - 2013.08.08 06:57:00 -
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OP as long as FF is off.
NOT OP if FF is off. |
OZAROW
A.N.O.N.Y.M.O.U.S.
326
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Posted - 2013.08.08 07:10:00 -
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Op when ur walking around with a proto five high fit with proficiency 5 an 4 complex damage mods like the guy that just one shotted my whole team |
Eriknaught
Vader's Taco Shack
121
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Posted - 2013.08.08 07:10:00 -
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Not OP.
That is all. Eriknaught out. END TRANSMISSION. |
Marc Rime
Zumari Force Projection Caldari State
117
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Posted - 2013.08.08 09:43:00 -
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In my experience: not OP.
...but who knows, maybe I mostly encounter MD-users with poor skills (both SP and player)? Too early to say for sure IMO. |
Corbina Ninja
Maphia Clan Corporation CRONOS.
200
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Posted - 2013.08.08 09:45:00 -
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not OP the problem is armor tank |
Big Popa Smurff
Seraphim Initiative..
457
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Posted - 2013.08.08 09:46:00 -
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needs tweaking but not OP, though iv heard thats it bugged and doing more damage to armor than intended is that true? |
Panther Alpha
DarkWingsss
887
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Posted - 2013.08.08 09:48:00 -
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Is just another weapon in the game that in the right hands is OP ... like every other weapon.
Weapons are not OP, PLAYERS are OP.
This doesn't means that you can start nerfing people CCP !! Just in case you read this and think... " Hmmmm.... " |
shaman oga
Nexus Balusa Horizon DARKSTAR ARMY
401
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Posted - 2013.08.08 09:52:00 -
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Don't allow damage mods for this weapon (not all weapons should be affected by Dmods, MD is one of them) Give to the explosive radius a progressive damage (not full damage at max range of explosion) Then it'll be fine, now it's not OP but it very close to the OPness. |
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Korvin Lomont
United Pwnage Service RISE of LEGION
88
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Posted - 2013.08.08 10:02:00 -
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FLAYLOCK Steve wrote:Nosid Katona wrote:I'll vote op; for those who actually wanna read my reasoning here is why.
I'm an armor tanker and I know massholes are supposed to be the bane of my existence but they are a bit too effective if I'm not extremely careful or lucky when I notice one is around. If I don't notice one is around they might as well be a HK4M from chromosome that has just snuck up behind me; I'm utterly boned. I have 500+ Hp on my STD pub suit and 600+ on my advanced and with either it takes 3-4 shots of splash from ADV massholes to annihilate me. Now there are plenty of people better then me I'll be the first to admit that, and we have all accepted that armor tanking is a bit UP at the moment; but with how strong it is massholes are gonna see a huge increase in the next week thanks to the 2X SP and I really don't look forward to that.
Now before you go "You don't use it your opinion is invalid, you just need to HTFU or get good." your somewhat right; I don't use it. However my opinion of of how OP MDs is isn't completely uninformed and comes from Havok Director Gideon; he has been a dedicated masshole since early chromosome or even a little before, he even used the MD at the beginning of uprising and said it wasn't that UP just needed tweaking. He will be the first to tell you that it's OP without a doubt; he even says he uses it more often now so more people will see it, use it as this FOTM, and the nerf will come all the faster so it isn't another godlock situation. Honestly I'm with Gid on this one and want to see the MD work as intended and be effective in the right hands; not be just another AOE ''noobtube', I want DUST free of that old FPS cliche so it can grow into something much more grand.
Vae Victis
Edit: fixed spelling errors. It's just that Armor is weak and I agree. It's needs a major buff.
At the current state thats every explosive weapon is OP against armor. MD is a tricky one. Alone most are ok (Assault is imho OP nearly 10m Spalshradius is ridiculus on operation lvl 5) in masses spash damage always gets problematic :/ |
Mregomies
The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar DARKSTAR ARMY
4
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Posted - 2013.08.08 10:03:00 -
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Not OP |
Flyingconejo
KILL-EM-QUICK RISE of LEGION
226
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Posted - 2013.08.08 10:11:00 -
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OP
I hope Alex from V-C does not see this |
Chunky Munkey
Amarr Templars Amarr Empire
1082
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Posted - 2013.08.08 10:14:00 -
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Not OP.
NOT
FRICKEN'
OP
Gah! |
semperfi1999
Internal Error. Negative-Feedback
752
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Posted - 2013.08.08 10:19:00 -
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Honestly all you would get from something like this is the ppl who feel strongly about this issue.... |
ladwar
Dead Six Initiative Lokun Listamenn
1078
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Posted - 2013.08.08 10:21:00 -
[106] - Quote
not OP |
Cat Merc
DUST CORE DARKSTAR ARMY
3951
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Posted - 2013.08.08 10:21:00 -
[107] - Quote
OP against armor. |
Kalisi Marada
Kameira Lodge Amarr Empire
1
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Posted - 2013.08.08 10:52:00 -
[108] - Quote
Not OP at all |
Argo Filch
Cannonfodder PMC
45
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Posted - 2013.08.08 12:14:00 -
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As long as you can fire the MD in a group of people that are engaged in CQC and only damage the enemy with it and have your own people take no damage, it is OP.
But as soon as those FW changes come in i will never play a pub match again and then we'll see how happy the bluedots are getting killed from their own people spamming MDs.
As long as FF is enabled this weapon is just a noobtube that requires little to no skill to use effectively. |
Jakar Umbra
Militaires-Sans-Frontieres
164
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Posted - 2013.08.08 12:24:00 -
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Not OP. |
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Bittersteel the Bastard
WarRavens League of Infamy
74
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Posted - 2013.08.08 16:09:00 -
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Updated. |
xLTShinySidesx
Sardaukar Merc Guild General Tso's Alliance
569
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Posted - 2013.08.08 16:10:00 -
[112] - Quote
Not op |
Justin Tymes
Raymond James Corp
285
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Posted - 2013.08.08 16:15:00 -
[113] - Quote
Not OP. |
Unmei no Hoeru
Grupo de Asalto Chacal CRONOS.
28
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Posted - 2013.08.08 16:22:00 -
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Not OP, explosives calculations and armor just don't mix well together atm.
Ignore the fact I main MD btw. |
Spycrab Potato
Hold-Your-Fire
199
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Posted - 2013.08.08 16:26:00 -
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Not OP, but armor needs some help. |
RoundEy3
Metal Mind Industries
299
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Posted - 2013.08.08 16:30:00 -
[116] - Quote
Not OP stop bitchin. |
Sinboto Simmons
SVER True Blood
928
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Posted - 2013.08.08 16:33:00 -
[117] - Quote
not op |
Draxus Prime
BurgezzE.T.F
1341
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Posted - 2013.08.08 16:39:00 -
[118] - Quote
not op |
Draxus Prime
BurgezzE.T.F
1341
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Posted - 2013.08.08 16:46:00 -
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AR users= if it kills me nerf it |
Darth-Carbonite GIO
Dust2Dust. Top Men.
71
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Posted - 2013.08.08 16:47:00 -
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Not OP |
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