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FLAYLOCK Steve
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Posted - 2013.08.08 01:07:00 -
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Not op BUT ARMOR IS UP. WE NEED BETTER ARMOR |
FLAYLOCK Steve
Hellstorm Inc League of Infamy
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Posted - 2013.08.08 01:26:00 -
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xxwhitedevilxx M wrote:Bittersteel. he Bastard wrote:xxwhitedevilxx M wrote:Bittersteel the Bastard wrote:xxwhitedevilxx M wrote:OP at proto/proficiency levels uh............ what? I'll put that under OP i suppose. Just wondering where to put that. I was going to make another column but that would be sort of an undefined column of strange answers that are neither yes nor no. However it appears you have a fundamental problem with the weapon itself so i'll put it under OP. well, what i really mean is that: full proto AR/Scrambler vs Mass driver on medium/short ranges mass drivers has more chance to win, many more. First off it force AR/scrambler to hip fire (because if you aim and a mass driver hits you it offset your weapon) and strafing much more (because of blast radius), while MD user can strafe/run much more without having to aim too precisely. It is manageable to beat a basic/advanced MD user, but it's definitely much harder to beat a proto/proficiency MD. Compared to all other guns, it looks OP to me. Simple yes or no. Idc about your b*tching. All I see is you couldn't change your tactic. Again op said no debate just no or yes so gtfo. |
FLAYLOCK Steve
Hellstorm Inc League of Infamy
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Posted - 2013.08.08 01:28:00 -
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A-NASTY INFECTION wrote:the weapon itself isnt op. but the splash damage to shields is. this should not take 2 shots to kill a fully armed proto. as i said the weapon itself isnt op i think its great but the splash damage is definetly op. and those who disagree to bad. its funny how the flaylock wasnt op when majority of the nubz were using it but now that its gone you all jump to the next bandwagon item. lol shame on you but im not mad i actually expected this and knew it would happen. all these scrubs who call themself elite or good players arent shat without FOTM weapons. these guys are the same ppl who used Tac rifles, OP LAV's, FLAYLOCKS, and now the wonderful mass drivers. you guys who ***** about it being op all you have to do is adapt or die and to those who use it.. well shame on you for knowing its power and exploiting it. but all in all its ccp's fault not the player. nuff said. Mass driver is weak against shields hence flux grenade combo. It's Armor it hurts. And this isn't a debate. Just yes or no. Follow directions please. |
FLAYLOCK Steve
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Posted - 2013.08.08 01:36:00 -
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FATPrincess - XOXO wrote:Assault MD is the OP one. The others are ok. I tried the EXO and it blows vs shields, and you have to actually track your enemy and land the shot. The assault? 8m splash radius with more clip and higher RPM for easy bomb spam fest.
-XOXO For once we can agree. Lower the splash a Lif but still it isn't that much since it's reduced damage vs regular fair trade off. But again please a simple yes or no. We are not discussing a specific mass driver but the weapon class itself. Kthx |
FLAYLOCK Steve
Hellstorm Inc League of Infamy
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Posted - 2013.08.08 01:58:00 -
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Killar-12 wrote:A-NASTY INFECTION wrote:as i said. the splash damage is op. i dont know what game your playing but it obviously isnt the same dust im playing. as a closed beta tester ive been through the ins and outs of this game. the splash damage is definetly op it takes 2 shots from the exo to kill my shields and i run a proto assault cal suit with 500 plus shields and it 2 shots my shields trust me dude. as i said the weapon isnt op but the splash damage does a hell of alot of damage to shields. the combo of flux and md is just an easy way out for TRYHARDS to get a one shot kill as i tried this today and it did just that. a word of advice my friend dont ask a question expecting to get a half a$$ answer. and dont be a smart off behing a keybored either. your welcome. How do you fight? fight from above or at long range the AR shines in those senarios. Thank you. People don't see this, but I'm tired of wasting my time on writing on my phone. |
FLAYLOCK Steve
Hellstorm Inc League of Infamy
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Posted - 2013.08.08 02:15:00 -
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Nosid Katona wrote:I'll vote op; for those who actually wanna read my reasoning here is why.
I'm an armor tanker and I know massholes are supposed to be the bane of my existence but they are a bit too effective if I'm not extremely careful or lucky when I notice one is around. If I don't notice one is around they might as well be a HK4M from chromosome that has just snuck up behind me; I'm utterly boned. I have 500+ Hp on my STD pub suit and 600+ on my advanced and with either it takes 3-4 shots of splash from ADV massholes to annihilate me. Now there are plenty of people better then me I'll be the first to admit that, and we have all accepted that armor tanking is a bit UP at the moment; but with how strong it is massholes are gonna see a huge increase in the next week thanks to the 2X SP and I really don't look forward to that.
Now before you go "You don't use it your opinion is invalid, you just need to HTFU or get good." your somewhat right; I don't use it. However my opinion of of how OP MDs is isn't completely uninformed and comes from Havok Director Gideon; he has been a dedicated masshole since early chromosome or even a little before, he even used the MD at the beginning of uprising and said it wasn't that UP just needed tweaking. He will be the first to tell you that it's OP without a doubt; he even says he uses it more often now so more people will see it, use it as this FOTM, and the nerf will come all the faster so it isn't another godlock situation. Honestly I'm with Gid on this one and want to see the MD work as intended and be effective in the right hands; not be just another AOE ''noobtube', I want DUST free of that old FPS cliche so it can grow into something much more grand.
Vae Victis
Edit: fixed spelling errors. It's just that Armor is weak and I agree. It's needs a major buff. |
FLAYLOCK Steve
Hellstorm Inc League of Infamy
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Posted - 2013.08.08 02:28:00 -
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THEAMAZING POTHEAD wrote:Not OP
i got proto ARs and MD, and the AR is around 3x better. The duvolle can oUT gun a MD in a straight fight any day of the week, how this is the way it should be, its worse all round than the AR but in group standoffs, and closed spaces it excels. Exactly the way a gun should operate, it excels at its niche but is useable all round while being much not nearly as effective as the AR all round. When i meet an enemy MD its extremely easy for me slay him, because i can outgun him, and position myself to make him virtually useless.
The scrubs who are stacking armor, slow as snails w/ bad gun game will say its OP though. I agree. I got the glu tac ar. It's deadlier, thats why i got the ar at level 4 and the md at level 3. I can't wait til level 5. ar. I got the aurum duv and its awesome as hell. |
FLAYLOCK Steve
Hellstorm Inc League of Infamy
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Posted - 2013.08.08 02:29:00 -
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THEAMAZING POTHEAD wrote:Not OP
i got proto ARs and MD, and the AR is around 3x better. The duvolle can oUT gun a MD in a straight fight any day of the week, how this is the way it should be, its worse all round than the AR but in group standoffs, and closed spaces it excels. Exactly the way a gun should operate, it excels at its niche but is useable all round while being much not nearly as effective as the AR all round. When i meet an enemy MD its extremely easy for me slay him, because i can outgun him, and position myself to make him virtually useless.
The scrubs who are stacking armor, slow as snails w/ bad gun game will say its OP though. I agree. I got the glu tac ar. It's deadlier, thats why i got the ar at level 4 and the md at level 3. I can't wait til level 5. ar. I got the aurum duv and its awesome as hell. |
FLAYLOCK Steve
Hellstorm Inc League of Infamy
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Posted - 2013.08.08 02:58:00 -
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XeroTheBigBoss wrote:Yloving,ecause getting all the people from a MD channel to protect their crutch proves something, LOL!
EDIT- This might as well be a list of scrubs that require a crutch. Wrong I run the following. Suits : Dren( bpo all of them) logi, assault, scout, and heavy. All are std.
Weapons : Assault rifle level 4 Mass driver level 3 Forge gun level 4 Hmg level 4 Laser level 2 Scrambler rifle level 1 Nova knife level 3 Smg level 2 Demolition level 3 Grenader level 1 Flay lock level 5 Sniper level 3
BPO From elite pack: Dren swarm launcher Dren shot gun Dren assault rifle Dren scrambler pistol.
My main suit atm is: Minja scout advance basic frame with the bpo Smg( the red one) and nova knife with remote explosives. |
FLAYLOCK Steve
Hellstorm Inc League of Infamy
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Posted - 2013.08.08 04:16:00 -
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TunRa wrote:Not OP <~~~ Heavy I do run a heavy from time to time. brother! |
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FLAYLOCK Steve
Hellstorm Inc League of Infamy
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Posted - 2013.08.09 00:40:00 -
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And we see no op more and more |
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