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FLAYLOCK Steve
Hellstorm Inc League of Infamy
161
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Posted - 2013.08.08 01:28:00 -
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A-NASTY INFECTION wrote:the weapon itself isnt op. but the splash damage to shields is. this should not take 2 shots to kill a fully armed proto. as i said the weapon itself isnt op i think its great but the splash damage is definetly op. and those who disagree to bad. its funny how the flaylock wasnt op when majority of the nubz were using it but now that its gone you all jump to the next bandwagon item. lol shame on you but im not mad i actually expected this and knew it would happen. all these scrubs who call themself elite or good players arent shat without FOTM weapons. these guys are the same ppl who used Tac rifles, OP LAV's, FLAYLOCKS, and now the wonderful mass drivers. you guys who ***** about it being op all you have to do is adapt or die and to those who use it.. well shame on you for knowing its power and exploiting it. but all in all its ccp's fault not the player. nuff said. Mass driver is weak against shields hence flux grenade combo. It's Armor it hurts. And this isn't a debate. Just yes or no. Follow directions please. |
Medical Crash
Vacuum Cleaner. LLC RUST415
51
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Posted - 2013.08.08 01:30:00 -
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Not OP, Armour just needs a buff and shields need some kind of negative. |
LeGoose
SAM-MIK
11
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Posted - 2013.08.08 01:30:00 -
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Not even close to OP |
FATPrincess - XOXO
Shining Flame Amarr Empire
387
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Posted - 2013.08.08 01:32:00 -
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Assault MD is the OP one. The others are ok. I tried the EXO and it blows vs shields, and you have to actually track your enemy and land the shot. The assault? 8m splash radius with more clip and higher RPM for easy bomb spam fest.
-XOXO |
xxwhitedevilxx M
Maphia Clan Corporation CRONOS.
461
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Posted - 2013.08.08 01:34:00 -
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FLAYLOCK Steve wrote: Simple yes or no. Idc about your b*tching. All I see is you couldn't change your tactic. Again op said no debate just no or yes so gtfo.
umm you should really learn to read the entire thread and then answer. But, hey! you are debating. I was just clarifying it. There's no need to be rude, even if you fear my logic. |
FLAYLOCK Steve
Hellstorm Inc League of Infamy
162
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Posted - 2013.08.08 01:36:00 -
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FATPrincess - XOXO wrote:Assault MD is the OP one. The others are ok. I tried the EXO and it blows vs shields, and you have to actually track your enemy and land the shot. The assault? 8m splash radius with more clip and higher RPM for easy bomb spam fest.
-XOXO For once we can agree. Lower the splash a Lif but still it isn't that much since it's reduced damage vs regular fair trade off. But again please a simple yes or no. We are not discussing a specific mass driver but the weapon class itself. Kthx |
Cosgar
ParagonX
4015
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Posted - 2013.08.08 01:37:00 -
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A-NASTY INFECTION wrote:the weapon itself isnt op. but the splash damage to shields is. this should not take 2 shots to kill a fully armed proto. as i said the weapon itself isnt op i think its great but the splash damage is definetly op. and those who disagree to bad. its funny how the flaylock wasnt op when majority of the nubz were using it but now that its gone you all jump to the next bandwagon item. lol shame on you but im not mad i actually expected this and knew it would happen. all these scrubs who call themself elite or good players arent shat without FOTM weapons. these guys are the same ppl who used Tac rifles, OP LAV's, FLAYLOCKS, and now the wonderful mass drivers. you guys who ***** about it being op all you have to do is adapt or die and to those who use it.. well shame on you for knowing its power and exploiting it. but all in all its ccp's fault not the player. nuff said. This goes down to the (limited) tactics people use with FotM weapons. Get in mid range and spam the same weapon, flaylocks, contact grenades, MD... LAVs, it doesn't matter as long as they all use the same thing to spam with. Instead of trying to flank people or engage at a distance, they try to meet these people head on constantly with the same results. |
Killar-12
Molon Labe. League of Infamy
436
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Posted - 2013.08.08 01:50:00 -
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FATPrincess - XOXO wrote:Assault MD is the OP one. The others are ok. I tried the EXO and it blows vs shields, and you have to actually track your enemy and land the shot. The assault? 8m splash radius with more clip and higher RPM for easy bomb spam fest.
-XOXO I'll be fine if the Ass MD gets whacked but just the splash radius nothing else or increase the PG/CPU cost like every other Assault weapon. |
FATPrincess - XOXO
Shining Flame Amarr Empire
388
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Posted - 2013.08.08 01:52:00 -
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The assault MD makes the weapon class OP so yes MD is OP. The weakness vs shields is negated by the assault MD easy spam. Pretty much like the Flaylock insane base damage and radius did the same in pre-1.3. But you'll say ohhh but MD is a primary weapon. So is the Scrambler Rifle and its damage is balanced so that killing armor-tanked suits is kinda difficult.
-XOXO |
A-NASTY INFECTION
Tronhadar Free Guard Minmatar Republic
8
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Posted - 2013.08.08 01:53:00 -
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as i said. the splash damage is op. i dont know what game your playing but it obviously isnt the same dust im playing. as a closed beta tester ive been through the ins and outs of this game. the splash damage is definetly op it takes 2 shots from the exo to kill my shields and i run a proto assault cal suit with 500 plus shields and it 2 shots my shields trust me dude. as i said the weapon isnt op but the splash damage does a hell of alot of damage to shields. the combo of flux and md is just an easy way out for TRYHARDS to get a one shot kill as i tried this today and it did just that. a word of advice my friend dont ask a question expecting to get a half a$$ answer. and dont be a smart a$$ behind a keybored either. your welcome. |
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Killar-12
Molon Labe. League of Infamy
436
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Posted - 2013.08.08 01:56:00 -
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A-NASTY INFECTION wrote:as i said. the splash damage is op. i dont know what game your playing but it obviously isnt the same dust im playing. as a closed beta tester ive been through the ins and outs of this game. the splash damage is definetly op it takes 2 shots from the exo to kill my shields and i run a proto assault cal suit with 500 plus shields and it 2 shots my shields trust me dude. as i said the weapon isnt op but the splash damage does a hell of alot of damage to shields. the combo of flux and md is just an easy way out for TRYHARDS to get a one shot kill as i tried this today and it did just that. a word of advice my friend dont ask a question expecting to get a half a$$ answer. and dont be a smart off behing a keybored either. your welcome. How do you fight? fight from above or at long range the AR shines in those senarios. |
FLAYLOCK Steve
Hellstorm Inc League of Infamy
167
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Posted - 2013.08.08 01:58:00 -
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Killar-12 wrote:A-NASTY INFECTION wrote:as i said. the splash damage is op. i dont know what game your playing but it obviously isnt the same dust im playing. as a closed beta tester ive been through the ins and outs of this game. the splash damage is definetly op it takes 2 shots from the exo to kill my shields and i run a proto assault cal suit with 500 plus shields and it 2 shots my shields trust me dude. as i said the weapon isnt op but the splash damage does a hell of alot of damage to shields. the combo of flux and md is just an easy way out for TRYHARDS to get a one shot kill as i tried this today and it did just that. a word of advice my friend dont ask a question expecting to get a half a$$ answer. and dont be a smart off behing a keybored either. your welcome. How do you fight? fight from above or at long range the AR shines in those senarios. Thank you. People don't see this, but I'm tired of wasting my time on writing on my phone. |
Nosid Katona
HavoK Core RISE of LEGION
33
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Posted - 2013.08.08 02:03:00 -
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I'll vote op; for those who actually wanna read my reasoning here is why.
I'm an armor tanker and I know massholes are supposed to be the bane of my existence but they are a bit too effective if I'm not extremely careful or lucky when I notice one is around. If I don't notice one is around they might as well be a HK4M from chromosome that has just snuck up behind me; I'm utterly boned. I have 500+ Hp on my STD pub suit and 600+ on my advanced and with either it takes 3-4 shots of splash from ADV massholes to annihilate me. Now there are plenty of people better then me I'll be the first to admit that, and we have all accepted that armor tanking is a bit UP at the moment; but with how strong it is massholes are gonna see a huge increase in the next week thanks to the 2X SP and I really don't look forward to that.
Now before you go "You don't use it your opinion is invalid, you just need to HTFU or get good." your somewhat right; I don't use it. However my opinion of of how OP MDs is isn't completely uninformed and comes from Havok Director Gideon; he has been a dedicated masshole since early chromosome or even a little before, he even used the MD at the beginning of uprising and said it wasn't that UP just needed tweaking. He will be the first to tell you that it's OP without a doubt; he even says he uses it more often now so more people will see it, use it as this FOTM, and the nerf will come all the faster so it isn't another godlock situation. Honestly I'm with Gid on this one and want to see the MD work as intended and be effective in the right hands; not be just another AOE ''noobtube', I want DUST free of that old FPS cliche so it can grow into something much more grand.
Vae Victis
Edit: fixed spelling errors. |
Tatsumi022
New Eden's Most Wanted Top Men.
6
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Posted - 2013.08.08 02:09:00 -
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Not OP
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Seymor Krelborn
DUST University Ivy League
472
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Posted - 2013.08.08 02:11:00 -
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slightly OP.... but not terribly... |
THEAMAZING POTHEAD
Pure Innocence. EoN.
181
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Posted - 2013.08.08 02:12:00 -
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Not OP
i got proto ARs and MD, and the AR is around 3x better. The duvolle can outgun a MD in a straight fight any day of the week, however this is the way it should be, its worse all round than the AR but in group standoffs, and closed spaces it excels. Exactly the way a gun should operate, it excels at its niche but is useable all round while being much not nearly as effective as the AR all round. When i meet an enemy MD its extremely easy for me slay him, because i can outgun him, and position myself to make him virtually useless.
The scrubs who are stacking armor, slow as snails w/ bad gun game will say its OP though. |
Cenex Langly
D.A.R.K L.E.G.I.O.N D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E
133
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Posted - 2013.08.08 02:14:00 -
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Definitely NOT OP. |
FLAYLOCK Steve
Hellstorm Inc League of Infamy
168
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Posted - 2013.08.08 02:15:00 -
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Nosid Katona wrote:I'll vote op; for those who actually wanna read my reasoning here is why.
I'm an armor tanker and I know massholes are supposed to be the bane of my existence but they are a bit too effective if I'm not extremely careful or lucky when I notice one is around. If I don't notice one is around they might as well be a HK4M from chromosome that has just snuck up behind me; I'm utterly boned. I have 500+ Hp on my STD pub suit and 600+ on my advanced and with either it takes 3-4 shots of splash from ADV massholes to annihilate me. Now there are plenty of people better then me I'll be the first to admit that, and we have all accepted that armor tanking is a bit UP at the moment; but with how strong it is massholes are gonna see a huge increase in the next week thanks to the 2X SP and I really don't look forward to that.
Now before you go "You don't use it your opinion is invalid, you just need to HTFU or get good." your somewhat right; I don't use it. However my opinion of of how OP MDs is isn't completely uninformed and comes from Havok Director Gideon; he has been a dedicated masshole since early chromosome or even a little before, he even used the MD at the beginning of uprising and said it wasn't that UP just needed tweaking. He will be the first to tell you that it's OP without a doubt; he even says he uses it more often now so more people will see it, use it as this FOTM, and the nerf will come all the faster so it isn't another godlock situation. Honestly I'm with Gid on this one and want to see the MD work as intended and be effective in the right hands; not be just another AOE ''noobtube', I want DUST free of that old FPS cliche so it can grow into something much more grand.
Vae Victis
Edit: fixed spelling errors. It's just that Armor is weak and I agree. It's needs a major buff. |
Bittersteel the Bastard
WarRavens League of Infamy
70
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Posted - 2013.08.08 02:19:00 -
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Thank you everyone thus far for keeping it clean for the most part. And I like the semi-discussion or the points a few of you are bringing up. I'll try to analyze and find some similarities given between all the people who have written about their experience or take on the mass driver and either write a new post or just edit this one at the end. |
A-NASTY INFECTION
Tronhadar Free Guard Minmatar Republic
9
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Posted - 2013.08.08 02:27:00 -
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Killar-12 wrote:A-NASTY INFECTION wrote:as i said. the splash damage is op. i dont know what game your playing but it obviously isnt the same dust im playing. as a closed beta tester ive been through the ins and outs of this game. the splash damage is definetly op it takes 2 shots from the exo to kill my shields and i run a proto assault cal suit with 500 plus shields and it 2 shots my shields trust me dude. as i said the weapon isnt op but the splash damage does a hell of alot of damage to shields. the combo of flux and md is just an easy way out for TRYHARDS to get a one shot kill as i tried this today and it did just that. a word of advice my friend dont ask a question expecting to get a half a$$ answer. and dont be a smart off behing a keybored either. your welcome. How do you fight? fight from above or at long range the AR shines in those senarios.
i play to win if i have to cqc with an ar then i will if its a long range map for long range kills i use a tac smg's i use for cqc as well. you know how i play im anon illuminati i play to win at whatever cost. but when ppl hide in upper tier places the slash damage is just to much. i am specced into alsmost all weapons in the light class i have 16.mill sp and been playing since day one im not trying to argue but its truely obvious that this guy is wrong about splash damage and shields. the flaylock was the same and it got its nerf. i still use the flaylock its still a very effective gun against armor. if you want to try it out go to oceanic server with a friend and try it and you will see what i mean. ive done it several times and i know im not crazy. lol |
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FLAYLOCK Steve
Hellstorm Inc League of Infamy
169
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Posted - 2013.08.08 02:28:00 -
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THEAMAZING POTHEAD wrote:Not OP
i got proto ARs and MD, and the AR is around 3x better. The duvolle can oUT gun a MD in a straight fight any day of the week, how this is the way it should be, its worse all round than the AR but in group standoffs, and closed spaces it excels. Exactly the way a gun should operate, it excels at its niche but is useable all round while being much not nearly as effective as the AR all round. When i meet an enemy MD its extremely easy for me slay him, because i can outgun him, and position myself to make him virtually useless.
The scrubs who are stacking armor, slow as snails w/ bad gun game will say its OP though. I agree. I got the glu tac ar. It's deadlier, thats why i got the ar at level 4 and the md at level 3. I can't wait til level 5. ar. I got the aurum duv and its awesome as hell. |
N1ck Comeau
Ahrendee Mercenaries EoN.
928
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Posted - 2013.08.08 02:28:00 -
[52] - Quote
Not OP |
Paran Tadec
Ancient Exiles Negative-Feedback
1271
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Posted - 2013.08.08 02:28:00 -
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Not OP |
FLAYLOCK Steve
Hellstorm Inc League of Infamy
170
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Posted - 2013.08.08 02:29:00 -
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THEAMAZING POTHEAD wrote:Not OP
i got proto ARs and MD, and the AR is around 3x better. The duvolle can oUT gun a MD in a straight fight any day of the week, how this is the way it should be, its worse all round than the AR but in group standoffs, and closed spaces it excels. Exactly the way a gun should operate, it excels at its niche but is useable all round while being much not nearly as effective as the AR all round. When i meet an enemy MD its extremely easy for me slay him, because i can outgun him, and position myself to make him virtually useless.
The scrubs who are stacking armor, slow as snails w/ bad gun game will say its OP though. I agree. I got the glu tac ar. It's deadlier, thats why i got the ar at level 4 and the md at level 3. I can't wait til level 5. ar. I got the aurum duv and its awesome as hell. |
A-NASTY INFECTION
Tronhadar Free Guard Minmatar Republic
9
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Posted - 2013.08.08 02:30:00 -
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theres is a differance in op weapon and splash damage. im voting not op for the weapon but splash damage needs a tweak not a nerf but a tweak. also the armor reppers need a buff too. just saying |
XeroTheBigBoss
TeamPlayers EoN.
868
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Posted - 2013.08.08 02:31:00 -
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Yes because getting all the people from a MD channel to protect their crutch proves something, LOL!
EDIT- This might as well be a list of scrubs that require a crutch. |
J Lav
Opus Arcana Covert Intervention
166
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Posted - 2013.08.08 02:31:00 -
[57] - Quote
Not OP |
Fire of Prometheus
DUST University Ivy League
61
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Posted - 2013.08.08 02:42:00 -
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XeroTheBigBoss wrote:Yes because getting all the people from a MD channel to protect their crutch proves something, LOL!
EDIT- This might as well be a list of scrubs that require a crutch. If this is a list of scrubs than answer this question.
What scrub uses a proto amarr logi stacked with adv and proto gear and a charge sniper?
Answer: me |
xSaloLx
GunFall Mobilization Covert Intervention
109
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Posted - 2013.08.08 02:45:00 -
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Not OP.
Could use one tweak: Diminishing damage toward the edges of the blast radius, but that's it. |
THEAMAZING POTHEAD
Pure Innocence. EoN.
182
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Posted - 2013.08.08 02:45:00 -
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bumpedy i love how xero is all alone, QQing about the MD while no one cares. the poll just proves it, WAAAY more people think the MD is fine while QQers just whine louder. |
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