Okaaaayy.... Semantics aside.....

My point still stands. From a gameplay perspective (not lore) the frequency of one shot kills the Forges are able to achieve are still subject to debate.

The with an increase in shakiness when charging, you can still get off "BASICALLY ANYTHING THAT GETS IN ITS SIGHT". It just won't be as easy to do so against infantry targets. If you want to kill infantry, get an HMG. If the HMG is subpar, then you need to provide feedback for the devs (I have not played with hmgs in uprising yet)

We really need more types of heavy weapons...

Okaaaayy.... Semantics aside.....

My point still stands. From a gameplay perspective (not lore) the frequency of one shot kills the Forges are able to achieve are still subject to debate.

The with an increase in shakiness when charging, you can still get off "BASICALLY ANYTHING THAT GETS IN ITS SIGHT". It just won't be as easy to do so against infantry targets. If you want to kill infantry, get an HMG. If the HMG is subpar, then you need to provide feedback for the devs (I have not played with hmgs in uprising yet)

My mouse doesn't have vibration built in...

Hardcore need more.

In fact... as sad this is going to sound. I think heavies should have a dedicated AI Forge gun, and it should be the assault forge gun.

Increased clip size to 6 or 8, lower damage to around 300 and reduce charge time to ~1.5s after passives.

Splash radius 4m(ish?), optimal range 80m or so, effective range out to 140m(ish?)

It'll be the Heavy Sniper Rifle. heavies aren't going to ever get many heavy weapons, so the ones they have should perform as well as possible.

This would help with how powerful the AFG is against vehicles, OP imho.

Hardcore need more.

In fact... as sad this is going to sound. I think heavies should have a dedicated AI Forge gun, and it should be the assault forge gun.

Increased clip size to 6 or 8, lower damage to around 300 and reduce charge time to ~1.5s after passives.

Splash radius 4m(ish?), optimal range 80m or so, effective range out to 140m(ish?)

It'll be the Heavy Sniper Rifle. heavies aren't going to ever get many heavy weapons, so the ones they have should perform as well as possible.

This would help with how powerful the AFG is against vehicles, OP imho.

This is actually an interesting idea. That way, if a heavy wants to be able to one shot anything more than a scout suit, it will have to land a headshot. This is a good idea.

yeah... also means you cant one shot in close range. Makes it the long range weapon its supposed to be. In close range you get a fancy ASMG and you're gtg

If you get killed by a forge in close range you deserve to die. It's extremely hard to pull that off. I've done it but I stick to cover and still had my fair share being killed by ars and other shyt. Seriously you guys really have no valid argument.

yeah... also means you cant one shot in close range. Makes it the long range weapon its supposed to be. In close range you get a fancy ASMG and you're gtg

Ummmm.....NO to this. Higher Damage + Faster. Charge-Up = Alpha Imbalance Variant. As for not being able to Hold a Charge Playing "Taps" (Hold R1, Release @ Near-Full, Repeat) Nullifies this. Everyone overlooks this b/c either they are Bad @ FG or want to Hide/Keep OP "Variant" for EZ-Mode vs Vehicles & Infantry. You have been learned

I've played enough with FGs and getting a one shot kill at 20m is not that hard. The hit box is gigantic.

Assault forge guns take the most skill out of all of the forge guns. Need to time your shot perfectly.

FG's havent changed since way back in Beta... like... at all...

If you have 6 fg's stacked against you of course your going to have a bad time... same as any other weapon.

But you won't see as many since most of the playerbase is medium suits. But omg these are soooooo OP. Increase the charge up time or something CCP!!!!

#lolForgeGuns

inb4 Forge Guns are fine

inb4 heavies are weak

-XOXO

Glad to see So many people BITCHING about the one weapon in my arsenal that CCP hasn't Nerf Hammered yet. They got My Suit, My Sidearm, and My Grenades.

Lets just go ahead and make the heavies an infantry class instead of a mobile artillery class. Because that would make sense, apparently.

As for Shaking? It does
Scope? None
Iron Sights? None
Annoying Glow during charge? Yup
Low Clip size? Yup


As an accomplished Forge Gunner I out live my ammo capacity for all my weapons in most matches, how many FoTM AR activists can say the same? I am still forced to rely on Logies (not a bad thing, but solo play is out) For ammo because heavies can't have heavy weaps and equip slots on the same build (everyone has Equip Slots)

If you want to change an aspect of the game, how 'bout making the MD a heavy weapon so you don't have Douches sitting on Hives spamming nades into a crowd? Talk about being "Splashed to death."

This game isn't about being totally and evenly matched in a firefight, CCP has proven that. It's about making your mark, and if you can't, you can't.

But don't QQ and ask for all you enemies to be nerfed, Like praying to the Gods for victory in battle 'cos your too weak.

Honestly the ishukone company should put out a special combo package.. ishukone forge/submachine gun for 1 Low price

Cause that combo is magical :P

I thought MD were FotM?

No, wait, it was AR's!

Er, no... maybe it was ScR?

Apparently everything is OP at the moment. This means CCP did a good job with balancing. Now that this is out of the way they can focus on new content.

it seems split between mass drivers and forge guns atm.

ar's can never be flavour FOTM, they are the flavour.

Ammo capacity does not balance DPS, or in this case, insta kills.

Heavies ARE an infantry class. Mobile artillery wtf....

You are overreacting, we just want to at least prevent scrubs from sitting high on towers and insta killing the ants below them.

But you won't see as many since most of the playerbase is medium suits. But omg these are soooooo OP. Increase the charge up time or something CCP!!!!

#lolForgeGuns

inb4 Forge Guns are fine

inb4 heavies are weak

-XOXO

No, it doesn't But Forge guns are designed for AV, and we get A LOT more points for going that route, if N00bs wanna sit up high and snipe the whole match, call me, I'll take care of it.

Don't like Forge gunners? Put one in your squad- Problem solved