It's like 1.75 seconds per shot or something like that.

Changes the FG needs:

Slightly more shake on charge up (this I'm not positive of, the Assault can be tough to use on moving targets as is, but it might be fine)

Assault FG damage swapped with Normal FG damage (lower base damage, higher overall because of RoF)

Slightly less splash radius

Damage decay on projectile, to help dropships, punish FG sniping, and discourage camping.

I've been a dedicated forge gunner for over 6 months on and off.

I know all too well how easy FG sniping is.

Why the **** do you keep on reposting this thread over and over again?

Why don't you try FG sniping; just buy a militia FG and a militia Heavy Dropsuit, come on, try it. Lets see if its really as easy as you think; squad up with some known FG users that post on the forum and see if you do nearly as weel as 'em.

Why punish FG sniping

The forge gun is HALF of the heavy weapons in this game. Can't blame heavy weapon users of getting tired of the HMG for a little bit.

As much as I hate the instagib nature of the FG you can't really nerf its anti infantry capabilties, its pretty much all they have.

Okaaaayy.... Semantics aside.....

My point still stands. From a gameplay perspective (not lore) the frequency of one shot kills the Forges are able to achieve are still subject to debate.

The with an increase in shakiness when charging, you can still get off "BASICALLY ANYTHING THAT GETS IN ITS SIGHT". It just won't be as easy to do so against infantry targets. If you want to kill infantry, get an HMG. If the HMG is subpar, then you need to provide feedback for the devs (I have not played with hmgs in uprising yet)

yeah... also means you cant one shot in close range. Makes it the long range weapon its supposed to be. In close range you get a fancy ASMG and you're gtg

Honestly the ishukone company should put out a special combo package.. ishukone forge/submachine gun for 1 Low price

Cause that combo is magical :P

Apparently everything is OP at the moment. This means CCP did a good job with balancing. Now that this is out of the way they can focus on new content.

ok i can't find my original post so I'll just repost the numbers. (in damage per second) remember when stacking mods the effectis of the additional mods are as folows: second mod has 75% of its actual vale, 3rd 50%. to test put shield hardeners on a tank and look at the resistance numbers)

militia AR numbers shown = 425dps
" with the bonus 10% all weapons recieved = 467.5 <<< actual base damage
" with 15% proficiiecny = 538 (this is already more than enough to drop every suit in the game under 2.2 seconds)
" " 1 basic damage mod = 481
" " " 2 basic damage mods = 490
" " " " 1 enhanced damage mod = 490
" " " " " 2 enhanced damage mods = 504 (this drops your average suit in 1 second)
" " " " " " 1 complex damage mod = 514 (an unmodded heavy will die in 2 seconds)
" " " " " " " 2 complex damage mods = 546
" " " " " " " " 3 complex damage mods = 569.74

1 complex mod and proficiecny 15% = 591 (approaching HMG damage)
2 complex mods and proficiceny 15% = 628 (dayum!)
3 complex mods and proficiceny 15% = 655 dps (holy shi...)

PROTO basic
heavy ehp base = 800
heavy with with shield and armor bonus to lvl5 = 1012 ehp
with 2 proto shield extenders = +145.2 shield (the shield skill at lvl5 gives 10%to shields)
with 3 complex armor plates = +379.5 armor (the armor skill at lvl5 gives 10% to armor)
total ehp = 1536.7

PROTO sentinel
base ehp = 800
with shield and armor bonus to lvl5 = 1012 ehp
with 1 proto shield extenders = +72.6 shield (the shield skill at lvl5 gives 10%to shields)
with 4 complex armor plates = +506 armor (the armor skill at lvl5 gives 10% to armor)
total ehp = 1590.6

you can divide the ehps by the dps to find out how many seconds it takes to kill the heavies but ill do an example.

milita AR with its actual dps of 467. proto sentiel heavy, the alleged point defense king... lets see:
1590.6/467 = 3.4 seconds of fire.

how many bullets did he waste? lets see.
1590/34 = 47 bullets.


A fully decked out proto scout with up to 400 ehp survives .85 seconds.

Short answer...highly unlikely

Depends on the situation but i have not met a tanker that doesn't lose his hardware against me.

Legend is the hardest, and nakaya indegine is the most slippery, but I have not met anyone that can elude me.

And now im perfecting the kamikaze av brigade for u redline tankers :P

That would be fine, if you could use it with enough skill to best us. I invite any and all to use the forge gun, it's not OP it's not the FoTM. It IS effective in the right hands.

This is a PvP game not your Cod-bag PvE shooters, we are ALL smarter than In game AI we see you coming we hear about it from our squad mates use your skills to kill us in return don't whine cos "this games too hard D,X"