Keep killing the ARs and you will get nerfed. Look at every other weapon ever. You might want to start petitioning that your weapon is fine....remember how there were only a few good tankers in Chromosome and we all got nerfed? It will happen to you if you don't stop killing the ARs

Really...

Well I need some tips then. What fit are you using? Because from what I see, there is no fit where any forge gun has over 381.33 splash damage.

Why nerf direct damage?
If you get a direct hit with those things, you deserve a kill, infantry or not.

To be fair forge guns are a bit on the strong side.
Proto suit with 800 eHP killed in two splash shots from a forge gun.
And before you say anything about charge time, it was an assault forge gun, the second shot comes very quickly.

We know our forge guns are going to get nerfed.

It's not us killing ARs that is the problem, its FOTM chasers, that will spec into it simply to tower snipe, that are the problem.

People like me who actually use it for what it is intended to do are going to lose big time because of these scrubs.

You're forgetting bonuses.
I am a Gallente assault suit, so your 381 damage turns into 419.
Even then, 381 damage should not exist, it one shots all starter fits :S

To be fair forge guns are a bit on the strong side.
Proto suit with 800 eHP killed in two splash shots from a forge gun.
And before you say anything about charge time, it was an assault forge gun, the second shot comes very quickly.

How actually are you supposed to use it?

To be fair forge guns are a bit on the strong side.
Proto suit with 800 eHP killed in two splash shots from a forge gun.
And before you say anything about charge time, it was an assault forge gun, the second shot comes very quickly.

Charlotte, just stop. The first QQ thread was ok, the second through eighth were a little annoying but funny, now it's just dumb. I'm not reading any more threads until you learn to post responsibly. That is all.

If no one listens to her complain about tanks, she has to change up her game.

Range is my only issue with forges. They have more range than an actual railgun. WTF is the logic behind that? It's stupid.

Say what one will about strategy and all that BS. If there is a forge on a ladderless tower, the team basically has 2 options. They can take a dropship up there...while the guy is waiting with his forge or they can drop everything and try to coordinate sniper fire on a heavy suit.

Either way it is more than likely a lost cause. If an individuals strategy is to don a heavy suit and hide on a tower, then that individual is a gutless turd in my opinion. Duck Hunt offers the exact same experience. If CCP intended a heavy suit to be used as any kind of sniper, then the same goes for them.....and the game is FUBU.

Range is my only issue with forges. They have more range than an actual railgun. WTF is the logic behind that? It's stupid.

Say what one will about strategy and all that BS. If there is a forge on a ladderless tower, the team basically has 2 options. They can take a dropship up there...while the guy is waiting with his forge or they can drop everything and try to coordinate sniper fire on a heavy suit.

Either way it is more than likely a lost cause. If an individuals strategy is to don a heavy suit and hide on a tower, then that individual is a gutless turd in my opinion. Duck Hunt offers the exact same experience. If CCP intended a heavy suit to be used as any kind of sniper, then the same goes for them.....and the game is FUBU.

2 things. First, if this is such a big issue for you and your forge sniper hating buddies, invest some SP into AV and try and prevent the dropship from even reaching that vantage point. If the pilot is dropping his forge baddie on the tallest tower (as you put it, the ladderless towers are generally the tallest), that means the pilot is exposing himself to EVERYONE on the map. If forge snipers are such a concern, then take em out before they dig in.

Second, coordinating an attack on a forge sniper isn't an impossible task. A talented dropship pilot with a well-fit craft and a decent gunner could drop infantry on said tower quickly. sure he might eat a round, maybe two. but that's all the time a talented pilot needs to drop infantry and forget-about-it. And why would it be a problem coordinating sniper fire on the heavy? 2 well fit snipers could take down a well-fit heavy in a couple shots a piece. Heavy armor reppers aren't effective against sustained sniper fire.

So what's the difference between getting wacked by a sniper rifle and getting wacked by a forge gun? How you handle it. Work on your squad comms before you scream nerf.

Exactly. The forge gun is a very effective AV / AoE weapon. I don't think it deserves a nerf due to the fact that it takes such a large amount of SP to skill into a decent forge fit. Not to mention only heavies can use it, and their slow-as-molasses tracking speed, not to mention the iron sights themselves, are somewhat comical. Everyone that's complaining about their infantry fit getting killed by a forge gun sniper needs to learn to evade, use cover, and out-smart the enemy. Communicate with your squad and take the forge down. Nobody is complaining about the proto charge sniper rifle 2 shotting them. Now i don't run a forge gun fit, so i'm not a forge gun fan boy. And i'm not against nerfs. The flaylock deserves it...it is a sidearm after all. I just think it's hilarious how people will complain about how a weapon should get nerfed when simply put, you got out played. Someone had a better strategy than you did and you are mad and decided to whine in the forums. Every weapon in the game is not gonna get nerfed to the same level as your AR (god i hope not!!). That's the beauty of the game. The variety of weapons and their different play styles is what makes Dust 514 shine. There is a counter for everything in the game. Sure the balance might not quite be there yet, but the forge gun nerf debate is, simply put, a gang of whining players who got sniped by a forge gun. Ridiculous.

Range is my only issue with forges. They have more range than an actual railgun. WTF is the logic behind that? It's stupid.

Say what one will about strategy and all that BS. If there is a forge on a ladderless tower, the team basically has 2 options. They can take a dropship up there...while the guy is waiting with his forge or they can drop everything and try to coordinate sniper fire on a heavy suit.

Either way it is more than likely a lost cause. If an individuals strategy is to don a heavy suit and hide on a tower, then that individual is a gutless turd in my opinion. Duck Hunt offers the exact same experience. If CCP intended a heavy suit to be used as any kind of sniper, then the same goes for them.....and the game is FUBU.

I was just playing a little ambush this morning, and the entire enemy team was on top of one of the inaccessible buildings raining down FG and MD rounds. I ran to the supply depot nearby, switched to my FG fit, and sniped them back. It was very easy to kill the FG sniper from the ground, because he was HUGE.

Maybe the solution to all the forge gun complaining lately is simply to make the roof of all buildings accessible. I'm not opposed to this -- would make for a more challenging game. A big ladder, all the way to the tippy-top of all skyscrapers in the maps. Would that stop the bitching and moaning?

Keep killing the ARs and you will get nerfed. Look at every other weapon ever. You might want to start petitioning that your weapon is fine....remember how there were only a few good tankers in Chromosome and we all got nerfed? It will happen to you if you don't stop killing the ARs

You're discounting how it typically interacts with the battle, it tends to get used as a long range bombarder in support of the infantry in the melee. Being able to reliably shave 400 health off of that 800 eHP suit just as it engages in battle with a friendly is huge. Killing a target yourself is not everything.

But they are accessible by dropships. You don't even need to skill into them to use them if you go with militia ones. Just gotta learn how to fly...

That too, but then the forge-nerffers will say that they can't even get up to us, cause we'll shoot them down. And honestly, they are right. A decent DS pilot could, if he was super quick and sneaky about it. In my experience, the team that first takes a tower generally gets to keep it for that match.

I think a lot of the anti-forge talk of late are Assault dudes who are basically pissed because they don't have an easy way to actually get up to us and personally shoot us in the face after we one-shotted them. I think it comes from the same irritation everybody felt about Manus Peak snipers, back when it actually was a peak... everybody hated them, but it was labor intensive to haul your butt up the mountain to kill that one dude at the very top who was bugging your team. They are right, to a very limited extent. I think a ladder would be a good compromise.