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WeapondigitX V7
Planetary Response Organization
39
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Posted - 2013.07.18 11:43:00 -
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Another Heavy SOB wrote:It's a step in the right direction however simply removing or reducing the massive 60% HP buff would have been far more appropriate, and could have been done long ago.
As has been mentioned this does not address LLAVs, hopefully the improved impact physics in 1.4 will.
I posted how to kill those LLAVs on page 2. However you do need about 2 million SP to do it. (need certain skills) |

Julius Vindice
A.N.O.N.Y.M.O.U.S. League of Infamy
195
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Posted - 2013.07.18 11:48:00 -
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What about the matches where there are scrubs and poor players on one side and a corp or squad with money on the other side? The side with the squad will have a big advantage over the other side if they can call in a car to get to the letters while the others would have to hoof it all the way there. |

Chankk Saotome
SyNergy Gaming EoN.
458
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Posted - 2013.07.18 11:48:00 -
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Aran Abbas wrote:[url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gbO2_077ixs[/url]
This absolutely deserves a comment for just great taste in music here.
Also, check the Al Green version if you get the opportunity. |

Duck Drahko
DUST University Ivy League
29
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Posted - 2013.07.18 11:51:00 -
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GTA-V FTW wrote:Now everyone will be spawning in and staring at each other to see who they can catch a free ride with, lol.
- No you call in an LAV. - No you call one in. - No way you call it in. - I called it in the last time, its your turn.
......................
F**k it lets run.
LOL seriously we should be able to charge passengers for milage. The MURDERTAXI will have come full circle!
Next time I'm bored I might just go back and forth carrying people, because I'm nice like that.
Speaking of which... We needs a horn!! |
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CCP Logibro
C C P C C P Alliance
52

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Posted - 2013.07.18 11:55:00 -
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And DUST 514 is back online.
Have fun! CCP Logibro | EVE Universe Community Team | Distributor of Nanites
@CCP_Logibro |
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French Fancy
Lo-Tech Solutions Ltd
19
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Posted - 2013.07.18 11:57:00 -
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Titan Maxima wrote:So the problem of indestructible Logi LAV's isn't being fixed? 
In the next few patches I would imagine, at least they rolled this out for now though! |

SERPENT-Adamapple
Royal Uhlans Amarr Empire
129
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Posted - 2013.07.18 11:57:00 -
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If I recall the free LAV, am I able to call it back in? |

Absolute Idiom II
Edimmu Warfighters Gallente Federation
243
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Posted - 2013.07.18 12:01:00 -
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SERPENT-Adamapple wrote:If I recall the free LAV, am I able to call it back in?
Yes, after a very short delay. |

Matticus Monk
Ordus Trismegistus
302
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Posted - 2013.07.18 12:03:00 -
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Excellent news - I think this is a big step in the right direction. Thanks CCP! |

Niuvo
The Phoenix Federation
262
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Posted - 2013.07.18 12:04:00 -
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It's looking more like an actual war. |
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dv8edhitman
Greatness Achieved Through Training EoN.
38
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Posted - 2013.07.18 12:05:00 -
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Chankk Saotome wrote:Aran Abbas wrote:[url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gbO2_077ixs[/url] This absolutely deserves a comment for just great taste in music here. Also, check the Al Green version if you get the opportunity.
I could not agree more... absolutely a great tune.
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Yisuki
CHACALES
12
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Posted - 2013.07.18 12:24:00 -
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No more free LAVs mean less swarm launcher easy kills for me :(
You should have left them how they were, maybe with a little less HP for the people crying about "murder taxis" (easy kills for me), or should have fixed how they are f*****g invisible most of the time on the map. |

Oxskull Duncarino
Shadow Company HQ
223
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Posted - 2013.07.18 12:25:00 -
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   Today, is a good day. Excellent work. |

Telleth
DUST University Ivy League
78
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Posted - 2013.07.18 12:29:00 -
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Julius Vindice wrote:What about the matches where there are scrubs and poor players on one side and a corp or squad with money on the other side? The side with the squad will have a big advantage over the other side if they can call in a car to get to the letters while the others would have to hoof it all the way there. Side with the squad and using teamwork have an advantage? Isn't that the idea of DUST? |

Aran Abbas
Goonfeet Top Men.
196
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Posted - 2013.07.18 12:29:00 -
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Vin Mora wrote:Question for the Devs, what about those BPOs LAVs from the Vet and Elite packs (which I have purchased both)? Will those also be replaced with single use BPCs?
No, they will not. This change will actually spur sales of those packs. |

October SnowFox
RUST 415 RUST415
42
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Posted - 2013.07.18 12:32:00 -
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Problems before patch - stupid monkeys on Lav, who just trying hit everyone - indestructible LAVs, WTF LAV is a jeep, not a HAV Problems after patch - stupid monkeys on Lav, who just trying hit everyone - indestructible LAVs, WTF LAV is a jeep, not a HAV - it is even more expenses now to play
forgive my bad english |

DJINN leukoplast
Hellstorm Inc League of Infamy
769
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Posted - 2013.07.18 12:41:00 -
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It's a start, which is nice. But I don't see too much murder-taxi discouragement with these changes. So the previously free LAV will cost what, 500 ISK? 1000 ISK, 6000 ISK? That's not going to stop it's abuse, anything short of 40k for a standard LAV won't stop people from abusing it. Also the LLAV is the real problem here, at least free LAV's can be easily destroyed. LLAV's are practically invincible and require an army of AV players to have a chance at taking it out.
But good to hear you guys are looking into impact damage, just hope those changes aren't coming SoonGäó  |

Aero Yassavi
PIE Inc. Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
611
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Posted - 2013.07.18 12:43:00 -
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Julius Vindice wrote:What about the matches where there are scrubs and poor players on one side and a corp or squad with money on the other side? The side with the squad will have a big advantage over the other side if they can call in a car to get to the letters while the others would have to hoof it all the way there. You realize you don't exactly have to be rich to afford a militia LAV? And you can recall it once you get to the objective. |

Master Jaraiya
Ultramarine Corp
468
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Posted - 2013.07.18 12:52:00 -
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I think my idea for Vehicle Loss Prevention should seriously be considered.
There is a known problem with people stealing your vehicles when you jump out to do some task. Taking them for a joyride and getting them destroyed. Vehicles cost a lot of ISK. The loss of that ISK should be preventable for circumstances outside of having them destroyed through conventional battle/use of the vehicle by the owner of the vehicle.
I outlined a very simple, but very effective solution to this problem. With the removal of free MLT LAVs I feel it is absolutely necessary to implement this.
Vehicle Prevention Loss/Free LAV Spam alleviation. |

DUST Fiend
OSG Planetary Operations Covert Intervention
5274
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Posted - 2013.07.18 12:54:00 -
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I'm sad that I'm almost positive I didn't get enough hacks to complete the challenge, but I'm happy to see LAVs are starting to get some attention. |
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Master Jaraiya
Ultramarine Corp
468
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Posted - 2013.07.18 12:54:00 -
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Aero Yassavi wrote:Julius Vindice wrote:What about the matches where there are scrubs and poor players on one side and a corp or squad with money on the other side? The side with the squad will have a big advantage over the other side if they can call in a car to get to the letters while the others would have to hoof it all the way there. You realize you don't exactly have to be rich to afford a militia LAV? And you can recall it once you get to the objective.
I can also be killed while trying to recall a vehicle making the entire attempt a huge waste of time in battle and ISK.
There is a better solution which I have outlined. Just follow the link above. |

Cenex Langly
D.A.R.K L.E.G.I.O.N D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E
92
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Posted - 2013.07.18 13:06:00 -
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Aeon Amadi wrote:....and the masses rejoiced, crying out in glee as their savior answered their prayer.
haha |

hamual jackson
OSG Planetary Operations Covert Intervention
30
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Posted - 2013.07.18 13:26:00 -
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You can tell who relies on death taxi, by the cry baby post of not having a free lav. Not that hard to by a militia vehicle take those complaints some where else. Good job CCP, now adjust that logi lav and death taxi will be severly diminished. |

GTA-V FTW
Mannar Focused Warfare Gallente Federation
24
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Posted - 2013.07.18 13:27:00 -
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Soooo how much do these "Not Free" LAV's cost? |

steadyhand amarr
Royal Uhlans Amarr Empire
951
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Posted - 2013.07.18 13:32:00 -
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Devs say they are fixing collation damage. Player base freaks that it's not been addressed. Some of you are awful trolls your ment to do Kt in a way none realises your trolling |

Garrett Blacknova
Codex Troopers
3349
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Posted - 2013.07.18 13:36:00 -
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I almost never bother using my LAVs. I don't approve of this change, because it's addressing totally the wrong aspects of the problem.
My girlfriend is a Sniper, and her primary use of the LAV is the INTENDED use of transport. She's probably not going to be overly affected by this, but if some enemy gets a lucky hit and blows up her no-longer-free LAV before she can recall it, or if a teammate decides to run off with it and get it killed, she's now going to lose her ride.
When the ACTUAL fix for murder taxis shows up, I hope the not-free status of Starter LAVs is revoked.
And more importantly, when are we getting some kind of acknowledgement of the mass complaints about LAVs being massively HP buffed for no reason when Dropships were already seen as the weakest link in the vehicle chain? |

Sgt Kirk
SyNergy Gaming EoN.
850
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Posted - 2013.07.18 13:43:00 -
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ladwar wrote:Sylvana Nightwind wrote:ladwar wrote:there is still other BPOs lav out there... Yes. But they are less common than those freakin' Baloch craps. plus the free ones weren't really what people were mad it, it was the LLAVs which had no change to. so meh. the saga-II is further proof ccp hate caldari HAVs, make a gunnlogi II then because it make sense and have as advanced for a slighter higher price that comes with turrets giving an overall cheaper price.
It's really just The Caldari LLAV that's near impossible to kill. The Limbus is hard to take out but it's not indestructible like the C.LLAV. Think about it. The shields already has a 30% resistance against explosives by default. Add on to that with a built in 30% for the LLAV and you have a god mode vehicle.
One time my corp mates killed the driver from one so I threw three C-7 fluxes at the stagnate vehicle and then three remote explosives underneath it and it STILL had some shields left. All of this while my mates are shooting it with small arms fire, a HMG and a basic missile launcher turret.
That's just crazy. |

ladwar
Dead Six Initiative Lokun Listamenn
932
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Posted - 2013.07.18 13:50:00 -
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DJINN leukoplast wrote:It's a start, which is nice. But I don't see too much murder-taxi discouragement with these changes. So the previously free LAV will cost what, 500 ISK? 1000 ISK, 6000 ISK? That's not going to stop it's abuse, anything short of 40k for a standard LAV won't stop people from abusing it. Also the LLAV is the real problem here, at least free LAV's can be easily destroyed. LLAV's are practically invincible and require an army of AV players to have a chance at taking it out. But good to hear you guys are looking into impact damage, just hope those changes aren't coming SoonGäó  yo... the MLT LAVs are 40k. the free ones are gone. |

James Blaise
Subdreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore
40
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Posted - 2013.07.18 13:53:00 -
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Aww, I am not happy with this :(
I would rather have a massive HP reduction. I always have fun driving my LAV in circles.
Also, please learn some tactics. |

Sgt Kirk
SyNergy Gaming EoN.
850
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Posted - 2013.07.18 13:53:00 -
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James Blaise wrote:Aww, I am not happy with this :(
I would rather have a massive HP reduction. I always have fun driving my LAV in circles. pay up buttercup |
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