Aww, I am not happy with this :(

I would rather have a massive HP reduction. I always have fun driving my LAV in circles.

Also, please learn some tactics.

I don't see the change this morning. Considering I paid $300 for three accounts to get the permanent lav on each. I will not be happy if its taken away. In fact I've spent more money on gear and its not enjoyable to see things being taken away. So much I'll probably simply go spend my entertainment dollars elsewhere.

Considering I paid $300 for three accounts to get the permanent lav on each.

and an LAV you buy now has a higher regen then a shield HAV... good job CCP. i feel like your vehicle department is on crack and takes orders from the dropsuit department.

yo... the MLT LAVs are 40k. the free ones are gone.

I still have my Gurista Saga BPO..... but I need to put a turret on it. The question is would I buy a turret BPO to continue having ISK free murder?

It's really just The Caldari LLAV that's near impossible to kill. The Limbus is hard to take out but it's not indestructible like the C.LLAV. Think about it. The shields already has a 30% resistance against explosives by default. Add on to that with a built in 30% for the LLAV and you have a god mode vehicle.

One time my corp mates killed the driver from one so I threw three C-7 fluxes at the stagnate vehicle and then three remote explosives underneath it and it STILL had some shields left. All of this while my mates are shooting it with small arms fire, a HMG and a basic missile launcher turret.

That's just crazy.

P.S. With extremely rough math a Wikimoryi (or whatever the hell that is) Swarm Launcher would only do around 737.5 damage if the person decided to equip at least ONE basic resistant amplifier.

I wouldn't have an issue with this if they had an AV weapon primarily for shields but that's not in the game yet.

So the problem of indestructible Logi LAV's isn't being fixed?

I dont know what crack you have been smoking, but I have lost many a Charbdyis. Indestructible my ass.

The issue with all LAV`s is they do too much damage at such low speeds. I'm sure its expected you die if you get hit at full speed, but like 5-10 mph? No that should barely damage you.

Soooo how much do these "Not Free" LAV's cost?

So then these new "Not Free" LAV's cost 27,000 ISK?

Yes / No

Anyone?

Buller, Buller............................................

After an interesting conversation on IRC about LLAV's and what exactly is making them such OP road killing machines I had a thought. Slow LLAV's down so that there top speed is between infantry and HAV's. While at first this may not seem like very good solution, lets think about it. To serve there main propose of repairing other players they need to have high survivability, I have no problem with that. They need to be able to stick with the people they are trying to support, they are not scout LAV's or regular transports.

Obviously the remote repair tool needs work for it, but I think this could also go well with the remote supply depot idea posted in this forum currently.

What does everybody think about this, just kind of spit balling this idea.

Further to these two fixes, weGÇÖre in the process of updating how collision damage is calculated and addressing vehicles, vehicle modules, turrets and vehicle skills in a rebalance pass that weGÇÖre hoping to complete for Uprising 1.4 or a hot-fix thereafter. This is likely to be a fairly substantial overhaul so once weGÇÖre in a position to do so weGÇÖll make sure you all get a good look at them and weGÇÖll attempt to address any concerns before finalizing the update.