Because you have to sit in the red line to kill enemy tanks? Honestly it breeds incompitence. Rail tank snipers hardly know how to handle a combat situation, aside from well...sniping. even when they get brave, hell we even killed one just zerging it with light weapons. There is good tank piloting...and then there is rail tank sniping. Just like how there are good snipers who take up positions to lay down really good overwatch and relocate to help squads and there are mountain snipers who go 3/0 with a charge.

ever herd of the breach? yup thats the one.... idgaf if it takes 6 sec to recharge stil does more than proto rail and when you put dmg mods then it does way more and over that it cost 900k isk less

i have memed your plight.

Because removing enemy tanks from the field is not helping the team in any way.


Who said anything about doing so solely from the redline? I sure didn't.

You replied to a post talking about railgun snipers and how they are useless. I assumed that you were reffering to you're self as a railgun sniper. In the future please be more clear.
Actually I think I just solved the problem of redline tanks for dropships. Does anyone know if the range on small railgun turrets is also unlimited like the tanks railgun?

As it was said before in this thread, tanks are redline sniping because the risk/reward factor for front line tanking is not worth it at all. Its really unfortionet, our sagaris/surya was taken from us because "they were broke" and we were given enforcer tanks instead, wich are worse than standard tanks. At the same time our fitting and overall stats were nerfed so we simply arnt as effective anymore. Then to add to it, all infaintry wweapons (AV) got buffed and more AV weapons were added to it so were pretty screwed, things are not balanced for vehicals and especially you dropship guys, it really sucks to be yal. We dont have proto mod or tanks, all we have are standard tanks and proto turrents, no mods. Im not counting the enforcer because it sucks.... sucks at anything other than rail sniping, those tanks are made for them, particulary the Falshion. With railsniping being encouraged and our non rail fits being destroyed by the horrendously powerful AV tanks dont really have a choice. Belive me, we tankers dont want to play this way ethire. I hate rail sniping and i loose many tanks to them because ppl dont run blasters or missles anymore. Us tankers want to, really do but we cant. We loose too much getting blown up out there, vehicals and AV is unbalanced. We will railsnipe untill balance is restored, so dropship pilots should spec into something else. sorry, blame CCP for making it our only choice to make profit. Rest asured, if another respec comes around there will be almost no tankers at all. fingers crossed!

The problem with railgun redliners is that you can't kill them without either an Orbital, or another Sniper Tank. Forge guns can't even hit them most of the time and if they do the tank runs off. Redline is OP

The problem with railgun redliners is that you can't kill them without either an Orbital, or another Sniper Tank. Forge guns can't even hit them most of the time and if they do the tank runs off. Redline is OP

also thank the QQing infantry for it too

Other sniper tanks don't work unless the enemy HAV pilot is a complete nincompoop. I've had many matches where I literally spend every minute just shooting a red-liner, watching him roll back, and come back 60 seconds later. He was a nuisance and I had to dedicate my entire existence to make sure he did not harass my team...

God-awful boring.

yeah they whined, and bitched, and moaned about how someone with an assult rifle cant hurt us, they are but one person who are open to tank farming. well.... yeah? should AV nades alone be enough to destroy us? apreantly ccp thought so, look what happens when ppl with ARs can kill us with no promblem too, nevermind ppl who actually speced into AV. Buff AV, nerf vehicals. thats how promblems are solved.... cant wait for ps4!!! Planet side tanks look so much better and balanced

You replied to a post talking about railgun snipers and how they are useless. I assumed that you were reffering to you're self as a railgun sniper. In the future please be more clear.
Actually I think I just solved the problem of redline tanks for dropships. Does anyone know if the range on small railgun turrets is also unlimited like the tanks railgun?

il give it one point, the tank gameplay is actually balanced.

lol no its not. Shiled tanks do not beat armor tanks. at all

Here Here,

I agree with you OP.

I would go so far as to say that they are bigger bitches than the redline dropsuit snipers who are without the protection of several thousand eHP.

Tankers are bitches who're just looking for an I-Win button. They want all of the ISK without any of the risk.

Here Here,

I agree with you OP.

I would go so far as to say that they are bigger bitches than the redline dropsuit snipers who are without the protection of several thousand eHP.

Tankers are bitches who're just looking for an I-Win button. They want all of the ISK without any of the risk.

Says no risk

OB/AV nades/proto AV/enemy tanks

'run blaster help the team' - AV naded to hell because NFL quaterback is launching them from behind cover

'then send in the infantry to deal with AV nades' - why is the tank being used then if infantry can do it all?

Takes a good 10mil of SP for a tank, lose a proper tank which for me is 1.7mil and im in the hole for the next 5-7 games

I can fit up a cheap tank and by that i mean 500k or less, it can survive but proto AV wrecks it

Tanks are all risk and no reward currently

I rail sniper to protect that investment and the reward is i get to keep it at the end of a match

With a dropship i have to make all installtions are gone and that ther are no enemy tanks on the field, in fact if i dropship i have to make sure i have a friendly tank to keep an enemy focused on that instead of my flying coffin

Says no risk

OB/AV nades/proto AV/enemy tanks only one of these is an actual issue. Even then tanks can outlast an OB

'run blaster help the team' - AV naded to hell because NFL quaterback is launching them from behind coveronly effective against armor tanks

'then send in the infantry to deal with AV nades' - why is the tank being used then if infantry can do it all? because that's called teamwork. you can't kill EVERYBODY EVERYWHERE EVERYTIME

Takes a good 10mil of SP for a tank, lose a proper tank which for me is 1.7mil and im in the hole for the next 5-7 games If your in PC that isn't an issue. If you were here pre-uprising that isn't an issue. If your 10mil into a godamned tank this shouldn't be an issue

I can fit up a cheap tank and by that i mean 500k or less, it can survive but proto AV wrecks it PRO should wreck a MLT tank whats your point?

Tanks are all risk and no reward currently their high risk low reward if your solo. almost no risk if your running a tight squad like you should be.

I rail sniper to protect that investment and the reward is i get to keep it at the end of a match

With a dropship i have to make all installtions are gone and that ther are no enemy tanks on the field, in fact if i dropship i have to make sure i have a friendly tank to keep an enemy focused on that instead of my flying coffin

AV has forced us to the redline, when CCP returns balance you will no longer have as big of a problem with redline rails

Pretty much this. If PROTO AV gets tempoarily removed until PROTO vehicles get (finally) put in, then I'll be happy. Also, AV nades need to go. They essentially make actual AV pointless, as if you have say 2-3 guys in a PROTO stomping squad with them, you don't have to worry about vehicles.

Translation: We're Cowards.

Blaming AV for your choice to redline snipe is a load. I cannot *wait* for the planned nerfs to dealing damage while in the redline. I've got a list of coward redline tanks and snipers which are going to get the full attention of my Proto Swarms, Forge Guns, and AV Grenades.

Having said that, well fitted, well driven tanks are VERY hard to kill, reguardless of the AV type. You're bringing a TANK on to the field - if you're too much of a coward to accept the risk associated with that, and the necessity to properly fit your tank, then you should not be driving one. Furthermore, you WILL lose tanks. Very few tank drivers seem to accept the fact that it's A) Going to happen, and B) That it even SHOULD happen. If there's anything that needs to change, it's that "I should be impervious to everything and never die" attitude that the majority of Tank drivers seem to have.

HTFU, get out of the redline, and when you do finally die to that AVer who you managed to kill 7 times already, tip your hat or give a salute, because IT TOOK ALOT OF EFFORT TO KILL YOU(Unless of course, your fitting or tank driving skills are crap. Then "haha").

/endrant