*sigh*.. Going to re-quote what i said about 2 posts after my OP that you must have not read, as well as other tankers below stating that they are actually capable of taking swarms and forge guns. Do you even know how much higher tanks shields and armor is when compared to us proto dropships?, as well as being able to include regeneration modules that are extremely affective just because they have "HAV" in their description? Anyways, here's what i said earlier that applies directly to your supposed statement.

"The issue i have with tank drivers claiming AV is somehow forcing them to redline is the fact that whatever tank is seriously being pushed back must not have a good knowlege on how to shield or armor fit. While those tanks were railgun sniping me, there was a madrugar (who must have been well fitted) taking countless amounts of swarm hits and even FG hits as well, while still being able to use structures to his advantage to hide behind. He wasn't redlining at all, and he survived those hits quite easily. AV's are supposed to push tanks back when they are proto AV's regardless, the big issue is that while tanks can sustain hits from miltia AV's and be reasonably taken back or destroyed by proto's, dropships are easily taken out by any real fit (be it miltia or proto), and this combined with redline camping railgun tanks makes for an impossible gain of anykind for a dropship pilot, whether that be entertainment, or ISK."

They were effectivly proto tanks so yea it should have taken team worknto destroy one.

by sniping friendly turrets from their own redline before they can do anything about it. The distance and power those railguns have is so unbelievably OP it's not even funny. When they added that "optimal range" thing, it was only for handheld weapons... it should have extended to turrets as well.

You replied to a post talking about railgun snipers and how they are useless. I assumed that you were reffering to you're self as a railgun sniper. In the future please be more clear.
Actually I think I just solved the problem of redline tanks for dropships. Does anyone know if the range on small railgun turrets is also unlimited like the tanks railgun?

As it was said before in this thread, tanks are redline sniping because the risk/reward factor for front line tanking is not worth it at all. Its really unfortionet, our sagaris/surya was taken from us because "they were broke" and we were given enforcer tanks instead, wich are worse than standard tanks. At the same time our fitting and overall stats were nerfed so we simply arnt as effective anymore. Then to add to it, all infaintry wweapons (AV) got buffed and more AV weapons were added to it so were pretty screwed, things are not balanced for vehicals and especially you dropship guys, it really sucks to be yal. We dont have proto mod or tanks, all we have are standard tanks and proto turrents, no mods. Im not counting the enforcer because it sucks.... sucks at anything other than rail sniping, those tanks are made for them, particulary the Falshion. With railsniping being encouraged and our non rail fits being destroyed by the horrendously powerful AV tanks dont really have a choice. Belive me, we tankers dont want to play this way ethire. I hate rail sniping and i loose many tanks to them because ppl dont run blasters or missles anymore. Us tankers want to, really do but we cant. We loose too much getting blown up out there, vehicals and AV is unbalanced. We will railsnipe untill balance is restored, so dropship pilots should spec into something else. sorry, blame CCP for making it our only choice to make profit. Rest asured, if another respec comes around there will be almost no tankers at all. fingers crossed!

The problem with railgun redliners is that you can't kill them without either an Orbital, or another Sniper Tank. Forge guns can't even hit them most of the time and if they do the tank runs off. Redline is OP

yeah they whined, and bitched, and moaned about how someone with an assult rifle cant hurt us, they are but one person who are open to tank farming. well.... yeah? should AV nades alone be enough to destroy us? apreantly ccp thought so, look what happens when ppl with ARs can kill us with no promblem too, nevermind ppl who actually speced into AV. Buff AV, nerf vehicals. thats how promblems are solved.... cant wait for ps4!!! Planet side tanks look so much better and balanced

lol no its not. Shiled tanks do not beat armor tanks. at all

Translation: We're Cowards.

Blaming AV for your choice to redline snipe is a load. I cannot *wait* for the planned nerfs to dealing damage while in the redline. I've got a list of coward redline tanks and snipers which are going to get the full attention of my Proto Swarms, Forge Guns, and AV Grenades.

Having said that, well fitted, well driven tanks are VERY hard to kill, reguardless of the AV type. You're bringing a TANK on to the field - if you're too much of a coward to accept the risk associated with that, and the necessity to properly fit your tank, then you should not be driving one. Furthermore, you WILL lose tanks. Very few tank drivers seem to accept the fact that it's A) Going to happen, and B) That it even SHOULD happen. If there's anything that needs to change, it's that "I should be impervious to everything and never die" attitude that the majority of Tank drivers seem to have.

HTFU, get out of the redline, and when you do finally die to that AVer who you managed to kill 7 times already, tip your hat or give a salute, because IT TOOK ALOT OF EFFORT TO KILL YOU(Unless of course, your fitting or tank driving skills are crap. Then "haha").

/endrant