AV has forced us to the redline, when CCP returns balance you will no longer have as big of a problem with redline rails

CCP just made a redline railer event-- destroy 100 installations

I was destroying a turret today (like i do with my python every day to support the team in having less variables for getting hit) and out of nowhere i got the assist because a redliner wayyyy across the map destroyed it before i did, and then he hit me next... it's so horrid.

I'm glad somebody else made a thread about this. I've made 3 or 4 in the past and then gone of and cried to myself while playing Skyrim.

look tanks and dropships are in the same boat vs av. Rather than shooting us down from an unreachable location why don't you just look the other way? I mean we are going to bail out, is 75 wp really worth killing an ally. maybe we come to some mutual agreement as pilots to avoid killing each other.

AV has forced us to the redline, when CCP returns balance you will no longer have as big of a problem with redline rails

There have always been redline sniper HAVs, so that's not really an excuse.

Although I admit the maps should be bigger so snipers can stay in optimal range without sitting on the redline.

Those redline snipers could care less about any mutual agreement that's made on the forums, it would never last ingame when they see a pretty enemy dropship flying in the distance, and they know they can destroy us in 2 shots from 1500 meters away.

CCP just made a redline railer event-- destroy 100 installations

Lol, I love two shotting those Derpships, most of the time it's those morons just flying to the top of a tower to drop an uplink, recall their dropship and camp the whole match, down every one I can

I honestly don't think that bullets or railshots should be able to leave the redline. In my opinion if you want to kill someone or destroy something you should have to enter the field of battle.

This issue has gotten to a point that it's not even a good idea to call in my proto-fitted python at all anymore.

you got killed by an HAV and now your whining like an infantry player, if infantry players hadn't made tanks so weak we wouldn't be rednline sitting, the average tanker would be in the middle of the map, the good ones would be pushing the enemy team at the redline. but since a single swarm missile can take down most of our armor, were not letting you get easy kills off of us

Also, my militia tank got killed by a dropship yesterday. OP's point is invalid.

*sigh*.. Going to re-quote what i said about 2 posts after my OP that you must have not read, as well as other tankers below stating that they are actually capable of taking swarms and forge guns. Do you even know how much higher tanks shields and armor is when compared to us proto dropships?, as well as being able to include regeneration modules that are extremely affective just because they have "HAV" in their description? Anyways, here's what i said earlier that applies directly to your supposed statement.

"The issue i have with tank drivers claiming AV is somehow forcing them to redline is the fact that whatever tank is seriously being pushed back must not have a good knowlege on how to shield or armor fit. While those tanks were railgun sniping me, there was a madrugar (who must have been well fitted) taking countless amounts of swarm hits and even FG hits as well, while still being able to use structures to his advantage to hide behind. He wasn't redlining at all, and he survived those hits quite easily. AV's are supposed to push tanks back when they are proto AV's regardless, the big issue is that while tanks can sustain hits from miltia AV's and be reasonably taken back or destroyed by proto's, dropships are easily taken out by any real fit (be it miltia or proto), and this combined with redline camping railgun tanks makes for an impossible gain of anykind for a dropship pilot, whether that be entertainment, or ISK."

you got killed by an HAV and now your whining like an infantry player, if infantry players hadn't made tanks so weak we wouldn't be rednline sitting, the average tanker would be in the middle of the map, the good ones would be pushing the enemy team at the redline. but since a single swarm missile can take down most of our armor, were not letting you get easy kills off of us

you acct as if I don't know **** about tanks when in fact you do not.

you got killed by an HAV and now your whining like an infantry player, if infantry players hadn't made tanks so weak we wouldn't be rednline sitting, the average tanker would be in the middle of the map, the good ones would be pushing the enemy team at the redline. but since a single swarm missile can take down most of our armor, were not letting you get easy kills off of us

Like the easy kills tanks were getting when it took at least 2-3 coordinated proto AV players to take out well fitted sagaris and suryas.