The most concerning, game-breaking component of Dust as far as Dropships are concerned are Railgun tank red-line snipers. It's a mouthfull, but that use of the tank makes it so over powered its ridiculous. There are moments i have been literally about 1,500 feet in the air and out of no where all i hear is a little "tick" noise and more than half of my ADS's shield is down (mind you i have a 31% shield resist) and there is absolutely no way to tell where the shot came from. When i lower the ds down to investigate where exactly the shot came from, i get hit yet again because the tank is constantly able to watch me behind the red-lined area of their side. It's the most pathetic, useless, and disgusting tactic i have ever witnessed in all of my time playing Dust, and i hope it's abolished quickly.

The most concerning, game-breaking component of Dust as far as Dropships are concerned are Railgun tank red-line snipers. It's a mouthfull, but that use of the tank makes it so over powered its ridiculous. There are moments i have been literally about 1,500 feet in the air and out of no where all i hear is a little "tick" noise and more than half of my ADS's shield is down (mind you i have a 31% shield resist) and there is absolutely no way to tell where the shot came from. When i lower the ds down to investigate where exactly the shot came from, i get hit yet again because the tank is constantly able to watch me behind the red-lined area of their side. It's the most pathetic, useless, and disgusting tactic i have ever witnessed in all of my time playing Dust, and i hope it's abolished quickly.

What's new about this again?

The most broken part about it is they are basically immune to being killed, except for maybe a lucky orbital. Anything else, they just roll back behind their little mountain and recall.

CCP doesn't actually intend for Dropships to be used in normal games.

I've destroyed quite a few dropships with the railgun installations.

What's new about this again?

The most broken part about it is they are basically immune to being killed, except for maybe a lucky orbital. Anything else, they just roll back behind their little mountain and recall.

CCP doesn't actually intend for Dropships to be used in normal games.

There's really not much more we can do aside from redlining. Potent AV has become more and more common. I still try to stay with the group in my Gunnlogi, but I've noticed that there are a lot more AV'ers out there, forcing me to hide and recall.

you can look at it this way, if we where on the battlefield then all you would have to do is fly circle's around us to take us out, since our turrets don't go that far up, making it impossible to kill you's. Meaning we can only kill you from a distance with a rail tank. That and the fact that now a days it only take's one hit from an av grenade or a swarm launcher and the tank is gone, so most of us either snipe or risk loosing that one tank.

Ive been told to play a vehicle (esp flying) you need ground game running around to tank out AV. Sounds like tanks just need a single AV player to keep DS away (truth, that's all it takes). Its a team game. Redline is different than playing smart or having a good team to cover all positions. It's just boring and cheap.

I don't blame tankers though. I blame the game mechanics. This is something CCP needs to address, you'll never stop player behavior because it's unsavory or bad for the game overall.

If AFKing is a problem, CCP needs to prevent it.
If MCC sniping is a problem, CCP needs to stop it.
If Redline playing is a problem, CCP needs to alter or abolish the redline.

Till then, keep at it but know I'm not impressed :P

yes well historically long range artillery is usually a pain in the butt, countered only by finding their position... which would be the job of well... aircraft usually.... with the extended map for aerial units, a dropship is actually the one unit capable of destroying rail snipers with any frequency.

What a load Pig,
If AV was non existent it would not preclude or curb the existence of redline rail tanking in ANY way.

Agreed, AV is ridiculous but please quit pretending that if we buff tanks or nerf AV that red rails will disappear. We're not that stupid.

Weapon locks in the redline fixes redline snipers and rail tanks.

yes well historically long range artillery is usually a pain in the butt, countered only by finding their position... which would be the job of well... aircraft usually.... with the extended map for aerial units, a dropship is actually the one unit capable of destroying rail snipers with any frequency.

no this just makes it way safer to redline an entire team, "oh noes we lost all our objectives, why cant i shoot back? CCP BRING BACK REDLINE SHOOTING QQ"

redline artillery is a very viable way to play this game, do you expect a bank of howitzers to sit where you can come and shoot them because it is fair?

Guys this is adapt or die. This is war.

no this just makes it way safer to redline an entire team, "oh noes we lost all our objectives, why cant i shoot back? CCP BRING BACK REDLINE SHOOTING QQ"

redline artillery is a very viable way to play this game, do you expect a bank of howitzers to sit where you can come and shoot them because it is fair?

Guys this is adapt or die. This is war.

What's new about this again?

The most broken part about it is they are basically immune to being killed, except for maybe a lucky orbital. Anything else, they just roll back behind their little mountain and recall.

CCP doesn't actually intend for Dropships to be used in normal games.

no this just makes it way safer to redline an entire team, "oh noes we lost all our objectives, why cant i shoot back? CCP BRING BACK REDLINE SHOOTING QQ"

redline artillery is a very viable way to play this game, do you expect a bank of howitzers to sit where you can come and shoot them because it is fair?

Guys this is adapt or die. This is war.

So real howitzers get shot once, and then the driver rolls it back, calls it out, and brings a shiny new one onto the field 15 seconds later?

I've been using tanks and I think that's just ****ing borked. make it so you can't call in vehicles for a minute or something after using the callback.

What a load Pig,
If AV was non existent it would not preclude or curb the existence of redline rail tanking in ANY way.

Agreed, AV is ridiculous but please quit pretending that if we buff tanks or nerf AV that red rails will disappear. We're not that stupid. And PS, tank recall is being abused.

If AV were nonexistent, this wouldn't be a fun game. I like being shot at. It means someone has decided that I'm a big enough threat to them that they need to go out of their way to target me specifically, meaning the other blueberries don't have to worry too much about him going after them.

If you've read a few of my walls of text in the past, I actually believe tanks and dropships are in good spots right now. The HP values allow for taking a handful of shots to the face, allowing decent enough time to find cover. A few values need to be tweaked, but for the most part, the problem stems from how easy it is to skill into these weapons, and I can't honestly come up with a viable solution aside from "LOLMORESPSINKS", which no one wants.

I also know that redline tanks will never go away until there is no redline. The path of least resistance will always be favorable. Why risk going out in the open when I'm safe behind these hills? I like moving with the blue dots, popping installations / would-be murder taxi's, but the ease, power, and quantity of AV on the field is forcing me further and further back until there's really no point in me calling in vehicles anymore, putting my 10m SP to waste because the other guy spent under 1m on his proto swarm.