The most powerful forge gun can do over 2000 damage, the user is also hard to find.

the user is illuminated by the charge up so it is not hard to find, but the prototype is more powerful than the prototype rail gun which doesn't make any sense

the user is illuminated by the charge up so it is not hard to find, but the prototype is more powerful than the prototype rail gun which doesn't make any sense

And the installations are weaker then ether of them. Tankers should be glad there's no proto breach.

And the installations are weaker then ether of them. Tankers should be glad there's no proto breach.

but they don't illuminate for the vehicle driver/pilot.

Prototype

Wiykromi Breach Forge Gun: (human sized weapon)

Direct Damage- 2772.0 HP
Splash Damage: 277.2 HP
Blast Radius: 1.5 m
Charge Up Time: 6 seconds
Clip Size: 4
Max Ammunition: 16.


80GJ Compressed Particle Cannon: (vehicle sized weapon)

Direct Damage: 1798.7 HP
Splash Damage: 292.5 HP
Blast Radius: 2.5 m
Fire Interval: 2.2 seconds
Charge Up Time: 3 seconds

anything else you would like for me to pull from the market?

Prototype

Wiykromi Breach Forge Gun: (human sized weapon)

Direct Damage- 2772.0 HP
Splash Damage: 277.2 HP
Blast Radius: 1.5 m
Charge Up Time: 6 seconds
Clip Size: 4
Max Ammunition: 16.


80GJ Compressed Particle Cannon: (vehicle sized weapon)

Direct Damage: 1798.7 HP
Splash Damage: 292.5 HP
Blast Radius: 2.5 m
Fire Interval: 2.2 seconds
Charge Up Time: 3 seconds

anything else you would like for me to pull from the market?

yes whats the stats for an non-moving installation? because size matters right?

Prototype

Wiykromi Breach Forge Gun: (human sized weapon)

Direct Damage- 2772.0 HP
Splash Damage: 277.2 HP
Blast Radius: 1.5 m
Charge Up Time: 6 seconds
Clip Size: 4
Max Ammunition: 16.


80GJ Compressed Particle Cannon: (vehicle sized weapon)

Direct Damage: 1798.7 HP
Splash Damage: 292.5 HP
Blast Radius: 2.5 m
Fire Interval: 2.2 seconds
Charge Up Time: 3 seconds

anything else you would like for me to pull from the market?

compressed particle cannon is better than the wiyrkomi forge in everything but direct damage

Prototype

Wiykromi Breach Forge Gun: (human sized weapon)

Direct Damage- 2772.0 HP
Splash Damage: 277.2 HP
Blast Radius: 1.5 m
Charge Up Time: 6 seconds
Clip Size: 4
Max Ammunition: 16.


80GJ Compressed Particle Cannon: (vehicle sized weapon)

Direct Damage: 1798.7 HP
Splash Damage: 292.5 HP
Blast Radius: 2.5 m
Fire Interval: 2.2 seconds
Charge Up Time: 3 seconds

anything else you would like for me to pull from the market?

so let me get this straight, a human sized weapon by logic is meant to be more powerful than a vehicle sized weapon? the direct damage is the problem between the prototype forge and rail gun

Then from my understandings it's balanced. Rail tanks are not only backed by higher armor/shield. But also higher DPS and are mobile. Let's not forget you can take an unlimited amount of shots because there's not ammo. Sure they lack DD but what they lack there they make up for in every other area(see the above).

If rails were to get a buff it would... well I don't want to say "break" but it would certainly shift the balance quite abit. Aside from that from what i've read CCP seems to follow the logic where the biggger the more DPS rather then DD because installation>rail>FG.

Someone correct me if i'm wrong but doesn't the rail also have a greater range to boot?

Pick your poison nerf PRO breach, nerf all FGs, or buff all rails to be more powerful and deal more DMG quicker.

im for the second choice, I agree that only one thing needs to be done

so let me get this straight, a human sized weapon by logic is meant to be more powerful than a vehicle sized weapon? the direct damage is the problem between the prototype forge and rail gun

Nice choice though then CCP would need to reduce the charge times on FGs. If the breach is going to immobilize me and make me wait 6 seconds to charge the damn thing then it should A) deal tank lvl DMG or higher or B) get rid of the penalties. Don't underestimate the penalties that breach FGs provide because those 6 secs determine if you die trying to kill a tank.

Due to the name of the thread, you are the biggest target for people who like to say "OP is QQing" and the like...

From the sounds of it, you're new, things will get better for you.
However if you are a dropship pilot, you are forever doomed.

Prototype

Wiykromi Breach Forge Gun: (human sized weapon)

Direct Damage- 2772.0 HP
Splash Damage: 277.2 HP
Blast Radius: 1.5 m
Charge Up Time: 6 seconds
Clip Size: 4
Max Ammunition: 16.


80GJ Compressed Particle Cannon: (vehicle sized weapon)

Direct Damage: 1798.7 HP
Splash Damage: 292.5 HP
Blast Radius: 2.5 m
Fire Interval: 2.2 seconds
Charge Up Time: 3 seconds

anything else you would like for me to pull from the market?

Due to the name of the thread, you are the biggest target for people who like to say "OP is QQing" and the like...

From the sounds of it, you're new, things will get better for you.
However if you are a dropship pilot, you are forever doomed.

Pick your poison nerf PRO breach, nerf all FGs, or buff all rails to be more powerful and deal more DMG quicker.

The most powerful forge gun can do over 2000 damage, the user is also hard to find.

HE IS A HEAVY FAT MAN USING A WEAPON THAT GLOWS BRIGHT BLUE AND HE FIRES EXPLOSIVE SHOTS

honestly...

I knew it wouldn't take long for the crying to begin.

This is what I get for pub busting with my assault forge gun tonight.

In dust, a shaky ass weapon with no zoom, chargeup, and guaranteed slow movement on the character himself is enough to induce crying. How would you guys ever have survived in Quake when that railgun required no chargeup, had a zoom, and the user could literally be flying through the air killing people instantly like a god ninja.


This generation of gamers is full of failure.

HE IS A HEAVY FAT MAN USING A WEAPON THAT GLOWS BRIGHT BLUE AND HE FIRES EXPLOSIVE SHOTS

honestly...

The most powerful forge gun can do over 3300 damage, the user is also hard to find.

The most powerful forge gun can do over 2000 damage, the user is also hard to find.

Fine since you all seem to want the forge gun's direct damage, you can have it...along with the 6 second charge time and the inability to move while charging. Take the good with the bad.

The most powerful forge gun can do over 2000 damage, the user is also hard to find.

The most powerful forge gun can do over 2000 damage, the user is also hard to find.

Can we also take the small size of your heavy frame? Because personal experience shows that it's harder to hit a heavy suit than a tank.

It's supposed to be OP. It's designed as an anti-tank weapon.

so let me get this straight, a human sized weapon by logic is meant to be more powerful than a vehicle sized weapon?

Forge guns have range while railguns can shoot across the map that's why you see rail tanks why back in the redline.

Forge guns have range while railguns can shoot across the map that's why you see rail tanks why back in the redline.

The most powerful forge gun can do over 2000 damage, the user is also hard to find.

Wrong.

Our range goes out to 600m. BUT, our draw distance goes out to around 250m, well inside a forge gunner's max range.

No anymore it now use as an anti infantry weapon

I'm a FG user, and I don't think that's entirely correct, at least not for me. When I play, my priorities are vehicles > infantry > installations. If there are no vehicles, you bet I'm gonna be smashing people with it.

FGs are fine. Dropships just need a buff. If your tank gets taken out in 6 seconds like someone else said, you just have a weak tank. Good tanks take a while for me to destroy. LAVs still have a little too much HP imo, but the only ones that give me issues are LLAVs. In a game dominated by ARs, it's important to have other viable options.