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Himiko Kuronaga
SyNergy Gaming
EoN.
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Posted - 2013.07.05 07:36:00 -
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I knew it wouldn't take long for the crying to begin.
This is what I get for pub busting with my assault forge gun tonight. |
Shavan D
Zumari Force Projection
Caldari State
4
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Posted - 2013.07.05 07:42:00 -
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Syther Shadows wrote:Shavan D wrote:The most powerful forge gun can do over 2000 damage, the user is also hard to find.
HE IS A HEAVY FAT MAN USING A WEAPON THAT GLOWS BRIGHT BLUE AND HE FIRES EXPLOSIVE SHOTS honestly...
Do you fly? Cuss if ya did you'd know that seeing ground units unless you are in firing range is next to impossible and by the time you see the blue glow the forge gunner has spotted you half a mile coming. You are also a bigger target and while you are jostling around trying to hit the forge gunner, the forge gunner or swarm missiles will hit you.
Personally if CCP got ride of the thing I'd be happy but if they want a powerful weapon like the forge gun fine, it just can't one shot anything period. |
Shavan D
Zumari Force Projection
Caldari State
4
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Posted - 2013.07.05 07:49:00 -
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Himiko Kuronaga wrote:I knew it wouldn't take long for the crying to begin.
This is what I get for pub busting with my assault forge gun tonight.
In dust, a shaky ass weapon with no zoom, chargeup, and guaranteed slow movement on the character himself is enough to induce crying. How would you guys ever have survived in Quake when that railgun required no chargeup, had a zoom, and the user could literally be flying through the air killing people instantly like a god ninja.
This generation of gamers is full of failure.
The forge gun can one shot my ADS with impunity. How much does a forge gun cost to a dropship? If you can buy it in bundles then it coast less. If I lose a dropship it takes 4, 5, or 6 games to get it back. Then when I go into another match and I take off I get one shoted. All the those games and time straight down the toilet in less then a minute with no warning at all, it's lopsided.
And no one get into the whole "vehicle turrets have unlimited ammo" true but we also can't one shot infantry. |
ChromeBreaker
SVER True Blood
Public Disorder.
625
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Posted - 2013.07.05 08:08:00 -
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 FORGE GUNS ARE OP BECAUSE DROPSHIPS ARE BROKE
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Nguruthos IX
Hellstorm Inc
League of Infamy
680
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Posted - 2013.07.05 08:15:00 -
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Syther Shadows wrote:Shavan D wrote:The most powerful forge gun can do over 2000 damage, the user is also hard to find.
HE IS A HEAVY FAT MAN USING A WEAPON THAT GLOWS BRIGHT BLUE AND HE FIRES EXPLOSIVE SHOTS honestly...
Hate to correct you but the weapon does not glow anymore. Also from even 20 feet above a unit you can't tell what weapon they're holding or even frame size they're just little black dots.
You ARE however right about firing explosive shots. They can one shot fully fitted, max EHP, max SP, 1.5 million ISK Assault dropships
That's about as explosive to game balance as taco bell is to one's digestive system.
Also for all the other people out there who seem not to realize this yet, the glowing effect from FG was REMOVED. Thanks. |
Lorhak Gannarsein
DUST University
Ivy League
44
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Posted - 2013.07.05 08:56:00 -
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Well Void, perhaps CCP will listen to you one day - and add in a Railgun with a limited capacity of ammo that takes seven seconds to charge, prevents you moving while it charges, and of course, deals 3500 damage per shot. Hmm?
I mean, proto breach is clearly designed for pure damage, while the assault is designed for DPS. All rails are designed for DPS.
EDIT: This railgun will also increase the size of your critical hit box. And make it so you can hit it from the front. |
Kekklian Noobatronic
Goonfeet
Top Men.
134
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Posted - 2013.07.05 09:44:00 -
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Shavan D wrote:The most powerful forge gun can do over 3300 damage, the user is also hard to find.
There, fixed that for you. :-) |
Spkr4theDead
Namtar Elite
Gallente Federation
270
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Posted - 2013.07.05 10:22:00 -
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Shavan D wrote:The most powerful forge gun can do over 2000 damage, the user is also hard to find.
2000 is kinda low. The Wiyrkomi breach does near 2800 base. Skills and damage mods, ~3000. |
Harpyja
DUST University
Ivy League
183
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Posted - 2013.07.05 11:20:00 -
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CuuCH Crusher wrote:Fine since you all seem to want the forge gun's direct damage, you can have it...along with the 6 second charge time and the inability to move while charging. Take the good with the bad.
Can we also take the small size of your heavy frame? Because personal experience shows that it's harder to hit a heavy suit than a tank. |
oso tiburon
The Generals
EoN.
52
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Posted - 2013.07.05 11:28:00 -
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Shavan D wrote:The most powerful forge gun can do over 2000 damage, the user is also hard to find.
ok realize this i cant a d s it takes a few seconds to charge up its useless for cqb and basicaly its a 50\50 if i hit you |
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Harpyja
DUST University
Ivy League
184
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Posted - 2013.07.05 11:30:00 -
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The proto assault forge gun can solo my Gunnlogi in 6 seconds.
Yep. Definitely not OP. |
KalOfTheRathi
Talon Strike Force LTD
Orion Empire
482
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Posted - 2013.07.05 11:43:00 -
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Shavan D wrote:The most powerful forge gun can do over 2000 damage, the user is also hard to find. Angry Birds awaits.
Seriously though, anything that kills you is unfair. This is a game of advantages and finding something that is fun to play, for you. That weapon also freezes the operator in position for ~six seconds (-minus the bonus) while the gun charges. Which is a disadvantage if you can find the sucker.
CCP/Shanghai shortened the draw distance dramatically when Uprising (the release you are playing now) was dropped on 14 May. It was an optimization for graphics because of UnReal 4. It has cost many of us the loss of targeting information. They seem intent on keeping it that way. |
Disturbingly Bored
The Strontium Asylum
394
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Posted - 2013.07.05 12:55:00 -
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Harpyja wrote:
Can we also take the small size of your heavy frame? Because personal experience shows that it's harder to hit a heavy suit than a tank.
Sure thing! You'll also get 2 hi slots, 3 low slots, a grenade slot, 3.6 m/s movement, 270CPU and 54 PG. Sound good? |
negative49er
The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar
DARKSTAR ARMY
42
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Posted - 2013.07.05 13:45:00 -
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aden slayer wrote:It's supposed to be OP. It's designed as an anti-tank weapon.
No anymore it now use as an anti infantry weapon
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Severance Pay
Purgatorium of the Damned
League of Infamy
518
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Posted - 2013.07.05 13:53:00 -
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Seems there is a whole thread about why forgeguns are not the king of AV but swarms are.
Swarm Hax!?! |
Vitoka79 from SVK
ZionTCD
54
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Posted - 2013.07.05 14:05:00 -
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Void Echo wrote:so let me get this straight, a human sized weapon by logic is meant to be more powerful than a vehicle sized weapon?
The Assault Rifles are stronger as the mounted Small Blaster Turrets.I don't see any logic in here. |
stlcarlos989
SVER True Blood
Public Disorder.
235
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Posted - 2013.07.05 15:06:00 -
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Forge guns have range while railguns can shoot across the map that's why you see rail tanks why back in the redline. |
Shavan D
Zumari Force Projection
Caldari State
6
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Posted - 2013.07.05 15:09:00 -
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stlcarlos989 wrote:Forge guns have range while railguns can shoot across the map that's why you see rail tanks why back in the redline.
Forge guns can hit across the map to
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Harpyja
DUST University
Ivy League
184
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Posted - 2013.07.05 15:10:00 -
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stlcarlos989 wrote:Forge guns have range while railguns can shoot across the map that's why you see rail tanks why back in the redline.
Wrong.
Our range goes out to 600m. BUT, our draw distance goes out to around 250m, well inside a forge gunner's max range. |
Bob Teller
The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar
DARKSTAR ARMY
21
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Posted - 2013.07.05 15:16:00 -
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Shavan D wrote:The most powerful forge gun can do over 2000 damage, the user is also hard to find.
Stop trolling please. |
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Shavan D
Zumari Force Projection
Caldari State
6
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Posted - 2013.07.05 15:17:00 -
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Harpyja wrote:stlcarlos989 wrote:Forge guns have range while railguns can shoot across the map that's why you see rail tanks why back in the redline. Wrong. Our range goes out to 600m. BUT, our draw distance goes out to around 250m, well inside a forge gunner's max range.
I'll say this, can you see and here a dropship coming and shoot at it before he see you, in fact is the dropship even facing you when unload a round into it? I highly doubt it. All dropship pilots can do when up against a forge gunner is to run because they have no make signature and we have to get with in HMG, assault rifle, and swarm launcher rand in order to even see any one. Not to mention how a dropship that is slow can speed up fast enough after getting hit to shake off the forge gun.
Face it the weapon is too strobe with no real drawbacks, if put into a one on one fight with Inflity the frogs gunner can just switch to there side arm |
DS 10
G I A N T
EoN.
526
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Posted - 2013.07.05 15:19:00 -
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negative49er wrote:aden slayer wrote:It's supposed to be OP. It's designed as an anti-tank weapon. No anymore it now use as an anti infantry weapon
I'm a FG user, and I don't think that's entirely correct, at least not for me. When I play, my priorities are vehicles > infantry > installations. If there are no vehicles, you bet I'm gonna be smashing people with it.
FGs are fine. Dropships just need a buff. If your tank gets taken out in 6 seconds like someone else said, you just have a weak tank. Good tanks take a while for me to destroy. LAVs still have a little too much HP imo, but the only ones that give me issues are LLAVs. In a game dominated by ARs, it's important to have other viable options. |
Shavan D
Zumari Force Projection
Caldari State
6
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Posted - 2013.07.05 15:38:00 -
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DS 10 wrote:negative49er wrote:aden slayer wrote:It's supposed to be OP. It's designed as an anti-tank weapon. No anymore it now use as an anti infantry weapon I'm a FG user, and I don't think that's entirely correct, at least not for me. When I play, my priorities are vehicles > infantry > installations. If there are no vehicles, you bet I'm gonna be smashing people with it. FGs are fine. Dropships just need a buff. If your tank gets taken out in 6 seconds like someone else said, you just have a weak tank. Good tanks take a while for me to destroy. LAVs still have a little too much HP imo, but the only ones that give me issues are LLAVs. In a game dominated by ARs, it's important to have other viable options.
The only thing I'm advocating for is the removal of all forge guns that can one shot for over 2000, as a dropship pilot 2000 is all my.
Also you forge gunners are in heavy suits which means taking you out once we've found you is a chore and aiming in third person in a dropship is a chore as well.
If they keep forge guns the way they are they need to be as weak to kill as a light assault or assault suit. Dropships risk getting one shooted, so should forge gunners. |
Himiko Kuronaga
SyNergy Gaming
EoN.
734
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Posted - 2013.07.05 18:05:00 -
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So my anti-vehicle weapon shouldn't be anti-vehicle?
Okay.
If your vehicle sucks, why don't you just ask for vehicle buffs instead of destroying a weapon which does its job correctly? |
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