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Sponglyboy Squaredoo
Not Guilty EoN.
628
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Posted - 2013.07.01 23:17:00 -
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I dont understand, does this mean that the SP cap is going to reset twice in a week & for players who want to get an edge would have to cap out on Wednesday?
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hamual jackson
OSG Planetary Operations Covert Intervention
22
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Posted - 2013.07.01 23:21:00 -
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just dont play wednesday to be sure, or at least til CCP clarifies |
Rogatien Merc
Ill Omens EoN.
209
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Posted - 2013.07.01 23:22:00 -
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hamual jackson wrote:just dont play wednesday to be sure, or at least til CCP clarifies But then if they reset the cap Thursday morning we would have lost out on a week's worth of SP wat do?!?! |
hamual jackson
OSG Planetary Operations Covert Intervention
22
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Posted - 2013.07.01 23:25:00 -
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Rogatien Merc wrote:hamual jackson wrote:just dont play wednesday to be sure, or at least til CCP clarifies But then if they reset the cap Thursday morning we would have lost out on a week's worth of SP wat do?!?! And if they dont you will lose sp. All you can do is go off information they provided.
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Medic 1879
Tritan's Onslaught RISE of LEGION
500
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Posted - 2013.07.01 23:26:00 -
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Dont worry CCP will clarify this I am sure they will.
Sadly clarification will probably come on Thursday. |
hamual jackson
OSG Planetary Operations Covert Intervention
22
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Posted - 2013.07.01 23:26:00 -
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Isn't these the type of things the CPM guys are suppose to find out? |
Sponglyboy Squaredoo
Not Guilty EoN.
630
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Posted - 2013.07.01 23:28:00 -
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hamual jackson wrote:just dont play wednesday to be sure, or at least til CCP clarifies That could also be a issue. If there's 2 resets this week, 1 could cap out on wednesday, earning approx. 300K sp and than cap out using the reset on Thurs earning approx. 900K SP.
If i was to try to stay on the safe side and not play on Wed., it could mean losing out on 300K XP... which I obviously DO NOT want to do. |
hamual jackson
OSG Planetary Operations Covert Intervention
22
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Posted - 2013.07.01 23:31:00 -
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Sponglyboy Squaredoo wrote:hamual jackson wrote:just dont play wednesday to be sure, or at least til CCP clarifies That could also be a issue. If there's 2 resets this week, 1 could cap out on wednesday, earning approx. 300K sp and than cap out using the reset on Thurs earning approx. 900K SP. If i was to try to stay on the safe side and not play on Wed., it could mean losing out on 300K XP... which I obviously DO NOT want to do. same if you play and they don't reset after wendsday. loseing situation until they clarify. |
Sponglyboy Squaredoo
Not Guilty EoN.
630
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Posted - 2013.07.01 23:32:00 -
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hamual jackson wrote:Sponglyboy Squaredoo wrote:hamual jackson wrote:just dont play wednesday to be sure, or at least til CCP clarifies That could also be a issue. If there's 2 resets this week, 1 could cap out on wednesday, earning approx. 300K sp and than cap out using the reset on Thurs earning approx. 900K SP. If i was to try to stay on the safe side and not play on Wed., it could mean losing out on 300K XP... which I obviously DO NOT want to do. same if you play and they don't reset after wendsday. loseing situation until they clarify. Main reason why CCP needs to stop being so vague about their announcements ffs |
Son-Of A-Gun
3dge of D4rkness SoulWing Alliance
68
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Posted - 2013.07.01 23:33:00 -
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Wow dust is going to be a ghost town on this wednesday.
Coole the very first CCP sanctioned/forced holiday. We should get this marked on the calendar and do it every year on the same day. |
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Sponglyboy Squaredoo
Not Guilty EoN.
630
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Posted - 2013.07.01 23:34:00 -
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Son-Of A-Gun wrote:Wow dust is going to be a ghost town on this wednesday.
That's what im trying to find out right now: If it would be a good idea to play on Wed. or not |
Son-Of A-Gun
3dge of D4rkness SoulWing Alliance
68
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Posted - 2013.07.02 00:21:00 -
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Now if we could only get that Dev, who is rampaging through the forums right now, to post here where it is REALLY needed. |
reydient
ROGUE SPADES EoN.
19
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Posted - 2013.07.02 00:22:00 -
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There are some minor details that need to be worked out- As clear as the event details are- words like " boosters " but not specifying which ones can lead the population to believe that the passive SP and booster will be working at 3x the rate- Plus,
Last time the event went from thursday to wednesday- Saying the event is the 4th to the 11th is the equivalent of saying that the event will end on the 10th at what ever down time is for the timezone that you live in for people who live in the western hemisphere " USA, Caribbean's , Canada and South America " It would be nice if next wednesday the cap reset and you had a chance to grind out another 570ksp . Probably will not happen- at least last time it did not. I know because i taught my gf to play dust for me so that i could get the triple SP while at work and she called and told me it was just regular-
CCP frame is going to let us know tomorrow-
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Eldest Dragon
D3LTA ACADEMY
45
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Posted - 2013.07.02 00:23:00 -
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I was writing a post about this when this was posted.... lmfao.... =p |
Sloth9230
Reaper Galactic
2110
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Posted - 2013.07.02 00:25:00 -
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Resets have always been separate from events as far as I know, so no, there will not be two resets, don't play on Wed. |
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CCP Cmdr Wang
C C P C C P Alliance
2045
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Posted - 2013.07.02 05:50:00 -
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Hi all,
So here are the answers to questionis regarding the triple SP event.
1. The weekly SP cap will reset on Wednesday, July 3rd as usual after DT. If you hit your weekly in the first day then you will still be eligible for the extended SP cap for the event on Thursday. For example, if the weekly SP cap was 1000 and you hit the cap on Wednesday before the event starts, then on Thursday we will extend the weekly SP cap to 3000 so you will have an extra 2000 added to your weekly SP cap for the event. Of course, the number I used in the example is just an arbitray number and not the actual SP cap amounts in order to illustrate the point.
2. The passive SP gain and caps are not part of the triple SP event, so they will work normally.
3. Your extra SP earned from skill boosters do not count towards your weekly SP cap. For more info on that go to https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=74943&find=unread
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Orber Gen
Academy Inferno CRONOS.
94
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Posted - 2013.07.02 05:56:00 -
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If u have active booster, u will earn 810 000 SP when u hit the week cap Passive booster will work in standart mode. |
HowDidThatTaste
Imperfects Negative-Feedback
2899
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Posted - 2013.07.02 06:07:00 -
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CCP Cmdr Wang wrote:Hi all, So here are the answers to questionis regarding the triple SP event. 1. The weekly SP cap will reset on Wednesday, July 3rd as usual after DT. If you hit your weekly in the first day then you will still be eligible for the extended SP cap for the event on Thursday. For example, if the weekly SP cap was 1000 and you hit the cap on Wednesday before the event starts, then on Thursday we will extend the weekly SP cap to 3000 so you will have an extra 2000 added to your weekly SP cap for the event. Of course, the number I used in the example is just an arbitray number and not the actual SP cap amounts in order to illustrate the point. 2. The passive SP gain and caps are not part of the triple SP event, so they will work normally. 3. Your extra SP earned from skill boosters do not count towards your weekly SP cap. For more info on that go to https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=74943&find=unread
And once again it is as clear as mud.
If it works like you say. Then the 1000 of the 3000 extended cap you got no bonus for the first thousand.
For example you cap out the first day as you suggested. Then you extend the cap to the triple amount everything you already capped got no bonus for?
Why be so cryptic when you communicate with us? |
Nguruthos IX
Hellstorm Inc League of Infamy
659
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Posted - 2013.07.02 06:15:00 -
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HowDidThatTaste wrote:CCP Cmdr Wang wrote:Hi all, So here are the answers to questionis regarding the triple SP event. 1. The weekly SP cap will reset on Wednesday, July 3rd as usual after DT. If you hit your weekly in the first day then you will still be eligible for the extended SP cap for the event on Thursday. For example, if the weekly SP cap was 1000 and you hit the cap on Wednesday before the event starts, then on Thursday we will extend the weekly SP cap to 3000 so you will have an extra 2000 added to your weekly SP cap for the event. Of course, the number I used in the example is just an arbitray number and not the actual SP cap amounts in order to illustrate the point. 2. The passive SP gain and caps are not part of the triple SP event, so they will work normally. 3. Your extra SP earned from skill boosters do not count towards your weekly SP cap. For more info on that go to https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=74943&find=unread And once again it is as clear as mud. If it works like you say. Then the 1000 of the 3000 extended cap you got no bonus for the first thousand. For example you cap out the first day as you suggested. Then you extend the cap to the triple amount everything you already capped got no bonus for? Why be so cryptic when you communicate with us?
Yes, the way I read this is if you play at all Wednesday, you're still screwing yourself. It appears that CCP has no control over this. It's either they don't care, or they can't change it. My assumptions are it's too hard to / they don't want to change any code revolving around server downtime and resets so their events are thrown sloppily on top of it all.
And they deal with the consequences. Is this result of Iceland/Shanghai cooperation, or communication or what?
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Chances Ghost
Inf4m0us ROFL BROS
188
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Posted - 2013.07.02 06:25:00 -
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Nguruthos IX wrote:HowDidThatTaste wrote:CCP Cmdr Wang wrote:Hi all, So here are the answers to questionis regarding the triple SP event. 1. The weekly SP cap will reset on Wednesday, July 3rd as usual after DT. If you hit your weekly in the first day then you will still be eligible for the extended SP cap for the event on Thursday. For example, if the weekly SP cap was 1000 and you hit the cap on Wednesday before the event starts, then on Thursday we will extend the weekly SP cap to 3000 so you will have an extra 2000 added to your weekly SP cap for the event. Of course, the number I used in the example is just an arbitray number and not the actual SP cap amounts in order to illustrate the point. 2. The passive SP gain and caps are not part of the triple SP event, so they will work normally. 3. Your extra SP earned from skill boosters do not count towards your weekly SP cap. For more info on that go to https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=74943&find=unread And once again it is as clear as mud. If it works like you say. Then the 1000 of the 3000 extended cap you got no bonus for the first thousand. For example you cap out the first day as you suggested. Then you extend the cap to the triple amount everything you already capped got no bonus for? Why be so cryptic when you communicate with us? Yes, the way I read this is if you play at all Wednesday, you're still screwing yourself. It appears that CCP has no control over this. It's either they don't care, or they can't change it. My assumptions are it's too hard to / they don't want to change any code revolving around server downtime and resets so their events are thrown sloppily on top of it all. And they deal with the consequences. Is this result of Iceland/Shanghai cooperation, or communication or what?
actually acording to what they just posted you will earn the same amount of SP if you play on weds than if you skipped weds and started thurdsday
sp cap =1000 cap wed get 2000 added to your cap = 3000
dont play wed get sp cap of 1000*3 = 3000
either way you get 300% of your weekly cap |
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Cruor Abominare
Resheph Interstellar Strategy Gallente Federation
88
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Posted - 2013.07.02 06:25:00 -
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Made sense to me, granted still not much of a reason to play Wednesday since you'll be working longer than it would take if you just did it Thursday. For the posters above me, he explained it as this. Max cap is x. If you cap Wednesday, then you will have done 1/3 of x and on Thursday the other 2/3 of x will unlock. Granted Wednesday cap would be earned at normal speed but Thursday you would gain at 3 times the speed. Playing Wednesday doesn't hurt you, just doesn't earn as fast.
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Calgoth Reborn
D3M3NT3D M1NDZ Orion Empire
256
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Posted - 2013.07.02 06:37:00 -
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Ok this is for the one's who need to work on there reading comprehension the weekly cap is 190,400 if you cap out on weds on Thursday the 4th the event goes live you get 190,400*2= 380,800 unlocked so same amount of SP as if you waited to play on the 4th |
LT SHANKS
Amarr Templars Amarr Empire
46
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Posted - 2013.07.02 06:42:00 -
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If only I was not swamped with work, I'd have more time to spend grinding during this event... |
Nguruthos IX
Hellstorm Inc League of Infamy
660
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Posted - 2013.07.02 06:42:00 -
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Chances Ghost wrote:Nguruthos IX wrote:HowDidThatTaste wrote:CCP Cmdr Wang wrote:Hi all, So here are the answers to questionis regarding the triple SP event. 1. The weekly SP cap will reset on Wednesday, July 3rd as usual after DT. If you hit your weekly in the first day then you will still be eligible for the extended SP cap for the event on Thursday. For example, if the weekly SP cap was 1000 and you hit the cap on Wednesday before the event starts, then on Thursday we will extend the weekly SP cap to 3000 so you will have an extra 2000 added to your weekly SP cap for the event. Of course, the number I used in the example is just an arbitray number and not the actual SP cap amounts in order to illustrate the point. 2. The passive SP gain and caps are not part of the triple SP event, so they will work normally. 3. Your extra SP earned from skill boosters do not count towards your weekly SP cap. For more info on that go to https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=74943&find=unread And once again it is as clear as mud. If it works like you say. Then the 1000 of the 3000 extended cap you got no bonus for the first thousand. For example you cap out the first day as you suggested. Then you extend the cap to the triple amount everything you already capped got no bonus for? Why be so cryptic when you communicate with us? Yes, the way I read this is if you play at all Wednesday, you're still screwing yourself. It appears that CCP has no control over this. It's either they don't care, or they can't change it. My assumptions are it's too hard to / they don't want to change any code revolving around server downtime and resets so their events are thrown sloppily on top of it all. And they deal with the consequences. Is this result of Iceland/Shanghai cooperation, or communication or what? actually acording to what they just posted you will earn the same amount of SP if you play on weds than if you skipped weds and started thurdsday sp cap =1000 cap wed get 2000 added to your cap = 3000 dont play wed get sp cap of 1000*3 = 3000 either way you get 300% of your weekly cap
True, then you only lose efficiency. Righto
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CCP Cmdr Wang
C C P C C P Alliance
2051
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Posted - 2013.07.02 06:43:00 -
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Cruor Abominare wrote:Made sense to me, granted still not much of a reason to play Wednesday since you'll be working longer than it would take if you just did it Thursday. For the posters above me, he explained it as this. Max cap is x. If you cap Wednesday, then you will have done 1/3 of x and on Thursday the other 2/3 of x will unlock. Granted Wednesday cap would be earned at normal speed but Thursday you would gain at 3 times the speed. Playing Wednesday doesn't hurt you, just doesn't earn as fast.
That is correct. If you play Wednesday AND hit your weekly cap, then the extra SP cap from the event will allow you to keep playing starting on Thursday so you will still recevie the triple SP from the event. The total amount of extra SP from the Triple SP event that you can earn is the same whether you hit your cap on Wednesday or not.
In other words, you won't miss out on earning any extra skill points from the Triple SP event if you hit your weekly cap this Wednesday. |
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Chances Ghost
Inf4m0us ROFL BROS
188
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Posted - 2013.07.02 06:45:00 -
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CCP Cmdr Wang wrote:Cruor Abominare wrote:Made sense to me, granted still not much of a reason to play Wednesday since you'll be working longer than it would take if you just did it Thursday. For the posters above me, he explained it as this. Max cap is x. If you cap Wednesday, then you will have done 1/3 of x and on Thursday the other 2/3 of x will unlock. Granted Wednesday cap would be earned at normal speed but Thursday you would gain at 3 times the speed. Playing Wednesday doesn't hurt you, just doesn't earn as fast.
That is correct. If you play Wednesday AND hit your weekly cap, then the extra SP cap from the event will allow you to keep playing starting on Thursday so you will still recevie the triple SP from the event. The total amount of extra SP from the Triple SP event that you can earn is the same whether you hit your cap on Wednesday or not. In other words, you won't miss out on earning any extra skill points from the Triple SP event if you hit your weekly cap this Wednesday.
this way of doing thigns make it so your not penalised for playing if you feel like it on weds.
very very nice change from the last time an event like this was held and i would like to say thanks for them making that change :P |
Halfwings Warbringer
WarRavens League of Infamy
0
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Posted - 2013.07.02 06:45:00 -
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Cruor Abominare wrote:Made sense to me, granted still not much of a reason to play Wednesday since you'll be working longer than it would take if you just did it Thursday. For the posters above me, he explained it as this. Max cap is x. If you cap Wednesday, then you will have done 1/3 of x and on Thursday the other 2/3 of x will unlock. Granted Wednesday cap would be earned at normal speed but Thursday you would gain at 3 times the speed. Playing Wednesday doesn't hurt you, just doesn't earn as fast.
1)3x = 900k sp b4 cap 2)if u cap(291k) b4 3x u lost about like 600k sp.
forgot how much sp cap per week with bosster. i think its about 291k and sorry about my english
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CCP Cmdr Wang
C C P C C P Alliance
2054
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Posted - 2013.07.02 06:48:00 -
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Halfwings Warbringer wrote:Cruor Abominare wrote:Made sense to me, granted still not much of a reason to play Wednesday since you'll be working longer than it would take if you just did it Thursday. For the posters above me, he explained it as this. Max cap is x. If you cap Wednesday, then you will have done 1/3 of x and on Thursday the other 2/3 of x will unlock. Granted Wednesday cap would be earned at normal speed but Thursday you would gain at 3 times the speed. Playing Wednesday doesn't hurt you, just doesn't earn as fast.
1)3x = 900k sp b4 cap 2)if u cap(291k) b4 3x u lost about like 600k sp. forgot how much sp cap per week with bosster. i think its about 291k and sorry about my english
I think you are assuming that we only triple what is left in your weekly SP cap for the event, which is not the case. The amount of SP you earn on Wednesday will not affect the amount of extra SP cap available to you from the event. |
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Nguruthos IX
Hellstorm Inc League of Infamy
660
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Posted - 2013.07.02 06:51:00 -
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CCP Cmdr Wang wrote:Cruor Abominare wrote:Made sense to me, granted still not much of a reason to play Wednesday since you'll be working longer than it would take if you just did it Thursday. For the posters above me, he explained it as this. Max cap is x. If you cap Wednesday, then you will have done 1/3 of x and on Thursday the other 2/3 of x will unlock. Granted Wednesday cap would be earned at normal speed but Thursday you would gain at 3 times the speed. Playing Wednesday doesn't hurt you, just doesn't earn as fast.
That is correct. If you play Wednesday AND hit your weekly cap, then the extra SP cap from the event will allow you to keep playing starting on Thursday so you will still recevie the triple SP from the event. The total amount of extra SP from the Triple SP event that you can earn is the same whether you hit your cap on Wednesday or not. In other words, you won't miss out on earning any extra skill points from the Triple SP event if you hit your weekly cap this Wednesday.
Be careful now, you might set a precedent of CCP posting comprehensive information |
Halfwings Warbringer
WarRavens League of Infamy
0
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Posted - 2013.07.02 06:52:00 -
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CCP Cmdr Wang wrote:Halfwings Warbringer wrote:Cruor Abominare wrote:Made sense to me, granted still not much of a reason to play Wednesday since you'll be working longer than it would take if you just did it Thursday. For the posters above me, he explained it as this. Max cap is x. If you cap Wednesday, then you will have done 1/3 of x and on Thursday the other 2/3 of x will unlock. Granted Wednesday cap would be earned at normal speed but Thursday you would gain at 3 times the speed. Playing Wednesday doesn't hurt you, just doesn't earn as fast.
1)3x = 900k sp b4 cap 2)if u cap(291k) b4 3x u lost about like 600k sp. forgot how much sp cap per week with bosster. i think its about 291k and sorry about my english I think you are assuming that we only triple what is left in your weekly SP cap for the event, which is not the case. The amount of SP you earn on Wednesday will not affect the amount of extra SP cap available to you from the event.
kool..
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Nguruthos IX
Hellstorm Inc League of Infamy
660
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Posted - 2013.07.02 06:53:00 -
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This does leave the question about the end of the event, and if there will be essentially a chance to get an extra triple SP cap during one day after the first week or not. |
Chances Ghost
Inf4m0us ROFL BROS
189
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Posted - 2013.07.02 06:54:00 -
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Nguruthos IX wrote:This does leave the question about the end of the event, and if there will be essentially a chance to get an extra triple SP cap during one day after the first week or not.
the answer is no
they add 2x your cap to your claimable SP for the week on thursday
you get 3x your original cap weather or not you play weds or not.
when the cap resets again just after the event they dont add more SP to your unclaimed reserves and therefore there arnt any
they have changed how they do these events on the backend to prevent this and other issues that were had in the past. |
Nguruthos IX
Hellstorm Inc League of Infamy
661
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Posted - 2013.07.02 06:59:00 -
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Chances Ghost wrote:Nguruthos IX wrote:This does leave the question about the end of the event, and if there will be essentially a chance to get an extra triple SP cap during one day after the first week or not. the answer is no they add 2x your cap to your claimable SP for the week on thursday you get 3x your original cap weather or not you play weds or not. when the cap resets again just after the event they dont add more SP to your unclaimed reserves and therefore there arnt any they have changed how they do these events on the backend to prevent this and other issues that were had in the past.
But reset is Wednesday and the event ends Thursday..? I hope you're right but I'm not in the proper state of mind to conclude such things implicitly from the above blue posts |
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CCP Cmdr Wang
C C P C C P Alliance
2054
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Posted - 2013.07.02 07:06:00 -
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Nguruthos IX wrote:Chances Ghost wrote:Nguruthos IX wrote:This does leave the question about the end of the event, and if there will be essentially a chance to get an extra triple SP cap during one day after the first week or not. the answer is no they add 2x your cap to your claimable SP for the week on thursday you get 3x your original cap weather or not you play weds or not. when the cap resets again just after the event they dont add more SP to your unclaimed reserves and therefore there arnt any they have changed how they do these events on the backend to prevent this and other issues that were had in the past. But reset is Wednesday and the event ends Thursday..? I hope you're right but I'm not in the proper state of mind to conclude such things implicitly from the above blue posts
The event ends next Wednesday, July 10th. |
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Sponglyboy Squaredoo
Not Guilty EoN.
654
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Posted - 2013.07.02 07:08:00 -
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CCP Cmdr Wang wrote:Nguruthos IX wrote:Chances Ghost wrote:Nguruthos IX wrote:This does leave the question about the end of the event, and if there will be essentially a chance to get an extra triple SP cap during one day after the first week or not. the answer is no they add 2x your cap to your claimable SP for the week on thursday you get 3x your original cap weather or not you play weds or not. when the cap resets again just after the event they dont add more SP to your unclaimed reserves and therefore there arnt any they have changed how they do these events on the backend to prevent this and other issues that were had in the past. But reset is Wednesday and the event ends Thursday..? I hope you're right but I'm not in the proper state of mind to conclude such things implicitly from the above blue posts The event ends next Wednesday, July 10th. I take it that this is the chance to cap out another 900K in one day? |
Chances Ghost
Inf4m0us ROFL BROS
189
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Posted - 2013.07.02 07:13:00 -
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Sponglyboy Squaredoo wrote:CCP Cmdr Wang wrote:Nguruthos IX wrote:Chances Ghost wrote:Nguruthos IX wrote:This does leave the question about the end of the event, and if there will be essentially a chance to get an extra triple SP cap during one day after the first week or not. the answer is no they add 2x your cap to your claimable SP for the week on thursday you get 3x your original cap weather or not you play weds or not. when the cap resets again just after the event they dont add more SP to your unclaimed reserves and therefore there arnt any they have changed how they do these events on the backend to prevent this and other issues that were had in the past. But reset is Wednesday and the event ends Thursday..? I hope you're right but I'm not in the proper state of mind to conclude such things implicitly from the above blue posts The event ends next Wednesday, July 10th. I take it that this is the chance to cap out another 900K in one day?
techanically the server reset is on weds morning so maybe maybe not, just clear your calender and wait and see |
Alex Smoke
The Nommo Insurance Fraud.
33
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Posted - 2013.07.02 07:13:00 -
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No, that's wrong. |
Nguruthos IX
Hellstorm Inc League of Infamy
662
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Posted - 2013.07.02 07:20:00 -
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Sponglyboy Squaredoo wrote:CCP Cmdr Wang wrote:Nguruthos IX wrote:Chances Ghost wrote:Nguruthos IX wrote:This does leave the question about the end of the event, and if there will be essentially a chance to get an extra triple SP cap during one day after the first week or not. the answer is no they add 2x your cap to your claimable SP for the week on thursday you get 3x your original cap weather or not you play weds or not. when the cap resets again just after the event they dont add more SP to your unclaimed reserves and therefore there arnt any they have changed how they do these events on the backend to prevent this and other issues that were had in the past. But reset is Wednesday and the event ends Thursday..? I hope you're right but I'm not in the proper state of mind to conclude such things implicitly from the above blue posts The event ends next Wednesday, July 10th. I take it that this is the chance to cap out another 900K in one day?
If i recall the problem last time was when they said "Ends this day" It's not clear if they mean once that day Starts or once that day Ends. So yes, we don't know still. This is why time zones/timestamps clear all sorts of mess up around such issues.
If they said, for example, "Triple SP will not be earned a moment past 7AM EDT on Wednesday the 10th" then it all makes sense.
But saying something ends "Wednesday". is like the English problem of indicating something happens "next weekend" vs "This weekend". Do they meant at the end of Wednesday AKA midnight |
Nguruthos IX
Hellstorm Inc League of Infamy
662
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Posted - 2013.07.02 07:24:00 -
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CCP Cmdr Wang wrote:Nguruthos IX wrote:Chances Ghost wrote:Nguruthos IX wrote:This does leave the question about the end of the event, and if there will be essentially a chance to get an extra triple SP cap during one day after the first week or not. the answer is no they add 2x your cap to your claimable SP for the week on thursday you get 3x your original cap weather or not you play weds or not. when the cap resets again just after the event they dont add more SP to your unclaimed reserves and therefore there arnt any they have changed how they do these events on the backend to prevent this and other issues that were had in the past. But reset is Wednesday and the event ends Thursday..? I hope you're right but I'm not in the proper state of mind to conclude such things implicitly from the above blue posts The event ends next Wednesday, July 10th.
For example if you have a coupon that reads "Expires Wednesday, July 10th". This generally means that is the last day you can use it. In other words the coupon is VALID THROUGH the duration of Wednesday july 10th.
If what you mean to say is that the event expires some time other than Wednesday at midnight (time zone assumed* to be Iceland) then this is still ambiguous.
Is it so hard to have positive details |
zzZaXxx
The Exemplars Top Men.
35
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Posted - 2013.07.02 07:25:00 -
[40] - Quote
If I understand correctly, we'll also recieve triple the bonus from active boosters, so the amount that I earned on Wednesday wouldn't affect my base cap earnings, but if I had earned those points on Thursday I would have had triple the boosted points, so I should save all my points until the event so that they all get x3 boosted. Am I totally off? |
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Sloth9230
Reaper Galactic
2124
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Posted - 2013.07.02 07:30:00 -
[41] - Quote
Dammit Commander Wang! You just made me a liar, I don't like being made into a liar, it's only acceptable when I lie on purpose |
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CCP Cmdr Wang
C C P C C P Alliance
2054
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Posted - 2013.07.02 07:32:00 -
[42] - Quote
Nguruthos IX wrote:Sponglyboy Squaredoo wrote:CCP Cmdr Wang wrote:Nguruthos IX wrote:Chances Ghost wrote:Nguruthos IX wrote:This does leave the question about the end of the event, and if there will be essentially a chance to get an extra triple SP cap during one day after the first week or not. the answer is no they add 2x your cap to your claimable SP for the week on thursday you get 3x your original cap weather or not you play weds or not. when the cap resets again just after the event they dont add more SP to your unclaimed reserves and therefore there arnt any they have changed how they do these events on the backend to prevent this and other issues that were had in the past. But reset is Wednesday and the event ends Thursday..? I hope you're right but I'm not in the proper state of mind to conclude such things implicitly from the above blue posts The event ends next Wednesday, July 10th. I take it that this is the chance to cap out another 900K in one day? If i recall the problem last time was when they said "Ends this day" It's not clear if they mean once that day Starts or once that day Ends. So yes, we don't know still. This is why time zones/timestamps clear all sorts of mess up around such issues. If they said, for example, "Triple SP will not be earned a moment past 7AM EDT on Wednesday the 10th" then it all makes sense. But saying something ends "Wednesday". is like the English problem of indicating something happens "next weekend" vs "This weekend". Do they meant at the end of Wednesday AKA midnight
Pretty sure the start and end times from previous SP bonus events are from downtime to downtime and it is the same for this Thursday's Triple SP event as well. So, it starts after this Thursday's July 4 downtime (11:30 GMT if no extended downtime) and ends at next Wednesday's July 10 downtime (11:00 GMT). |
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Shrapnels
The Order 1886
141
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Posted - 2013.07.02 07:36:00 -
[43] - Quote
CCP Cmdr Wang wrote:Hi all, So here are the answers to questionis regarding the triple SP event. 1. The weekly SP cap will reset on Wednesday, July 3rd as usual after DT. If you hit your weekly in the first day then you will still be eligible for the extended SP cap for the event on Thursday. For example, if the weekly SP cap was 1000 and you hit the cap on Wednesday before the event starts, then on Thursday we will extend the weekly SP cap to 3000 so you will have an extra 2000 added to your weekly SP cap for the event. Of course, the number I used in the example is just an arbitray number and not the actual SP cap amounts in order to illustrate the point. 2. The passive SP gain and caps are not part of the triple SP event, so they will work normally. 3. Your extra SP earned from skill boosters do not count towards your weekly SP cap. For more info on that go to https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=74943&find=unread
you should also Address the Other Skill Point Cap of 1WP to 1SP ratio up too 1,000 SP cap. That SP Cap needs to be Tripled also to give us players up too 3,000 SP. |
Sloth9230
Reaper Galactic
2124
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Posted - 2013.07.02 07:37:00 -
[44] - Quote
Basically, Tuesday night if you're merrican. Or really early Wednesday morning if you're an insomniac |
Nguruthos IX
Hellstorm Inc League of Infamy
662
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Posted - 2013.07.02 07:38:00 -
[45] - Quote
CCP Cmdr Wang wrote:
Pretty sure the start and end times from previous SP bonus events are from downtime to downtime and it is the same for this Thursday's Triple SP event as well. So, it starts after this Thursday's July 4 downtime (11:30 GMT if no extended downtime) and ends at next Wednesday's July 10 downtime (11:00 GMT).
Except that isn't what happened in the last SP event. There was, in fact, a single day where people had the chance to cap out at an extra 900,000 SP or so. If you're saying this event is setup the same then there will be one huge day of grinding for a second triple SP cap.
I assumed the same thing as you here, last time, and lost out on that SP. (Not QQ, just saying my reasoning was as logically sound as a DEV and served me no good). |
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CCP Cmdr Wang
C C P C C P Alliance
2054
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Posted - 2013.07.02 07:39:00 -
[46] - Quote
zzZaXxx wrote:If I understand correctly, we'll also recieve triple the bonus from active boosters, so the amount that I earned on Wednesday wouldn't affect my base cap earnings, but if I had earned those points on Thursday I would have had triple the boosted points, so I should save all my points until the event so that they all get x3 boosted. Am I totally off?
There is no need to save your skill points. The total skill points you can earn from this event with or without a skll booster will not be affected by the skill points earned on Wednesday. You will simply earn skill points faster starting on Thursday. |
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Nguruthos IX
Hellstorm Inc League of Infamy
662
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Posted - 2013.07.02 07:41:00 -
[47] - Quote
CCP Cmdr Wang wrote:
Pretty sure the start and end times from previous SP bonus events are from downtime to downtime and it is the same for this Thursday's Triple SP event as well. So, it starts after this Thursday's July 4 downtime (11:30 GMT if no extended downtime) and ends at next Wednesday's July 10 downtime (11:00 GMT).
Sorry, what I'm saying is it's double speak to say this is the same as last event, and ends Wednesday. When last time it went from Whenever to Thursday, one day past reset downtime. |
Sloth9230
Reaper Galactic
2124
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Posted - 2013.07.02 07:42:00 -
[48] - Quote
Nguruthos IX wrote:CCP Cmdr Wang wrote:
Pretty sure the start and end times from previous SP bonus events are from downtime to downtime and it is the same for this Thursday's Triple SP event as well. So, it starts after this Thursday's July 4 downtime (11:30 GMT if no extended downtime) and ends at next Wednesday's July 10 downtime (11:00 GMT).
Except that isn't what happened in the last SP event. There was, in fact, a single day where people had the chance to cap out at an extra 900,000 SP or so. If you're saying this event is setup the same then there will be one huge day of grinding for a second triple SP cap. I assumed the same thing as you here, last time, and lost out on that SP. (Not QQ, just saying my reasoning was as logically sound as a DEV and served me no good). Ughhh... that is what happened, did you not pay attention to the dates? Everyone new Wednesday was included, Thursday was the problem, remember, you made a thread
it said "through thursday", thursday wasn't actually included, y'know. |
Nguruthos IX
Hellstorm Inc League of Infamy
662
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Posted - 2013.07.02 07:42:00 -
[49] - Quote
CCP Cmdr Wang wrote:zzZaXxx wrote:If I understand correctly, we'll also recieve triple the bonus from active boosters, so the amount that I earned on Wednesday wouldn't affect my base cap earnings, but if I had earned those points on Thursday I would have had triple the boosted points, so I should save all my points until the event so that they all get x3 boosted. Am I totally off? There is no need to save your skill points. The total skill points you can earn from this event with or without a skll booster will not be affected by the skill points earned on Wednesday. You will simply earn skill points faster starting on Thursday.
issue #1 is now totally cleared up! (Although I gleaned as much by this point, now it's totally explicit)
Cheers! |
Nguruthos IX
Hellstorm Inc League of Infamy
662
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Posted - 2013.07.02 07:44:00 -
[50] - Quote
Sloth9230 wrote:Nguruthos IX wrote:CCP Cmdr Wang wrote:
Pretty sure the start and end times from previous SP bonus events are from downtime to downtime and it is the same for this Thursday's Triple SP event as well. So, it starts after this Thursday's July 4 downtime (11:30 GMT if no extended downtime) and ends at next Wednesday's July 10 downtime (11:00 GMT).
Except that isn't what happened in the last SP event. There was, in fact, a single day where people had the chance to cap out at an extra 900,000 SP or so. If you're saying this event is setup the same then there will be one huge day of grinding for a second triple SP cap. I assumed the same thing as you here, last time, and lost out on that SP. (Not QQ, just saying my reasoning was as logically sound as a DEV and served me no good). Ughhh... that is what happened, did you not pay attention to the dates? Everyone new Wednesday was included, Thurday was the problem, remember, you made a thread
Oh right, so its the same thing but I'm off by a day. Thanks!!! You're right and no, I totally forgot lol.
So TL;DR = grind like hell Wednesday. As a PSA to people who if I was spiteful over the last event I wouldn't bother informing.
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Sloth9230
Reaper Galactic
2124
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Posted - 2013.07.02 07:48:00 -
[51] - Quote
No, no, Wednesday's downtime is really early in the morning, so the event will be over by the time the event ends, so we won't get two caps in a week this time around. |
Shrapnels
The Order 1886
142
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Posted - 2013.07.02 07:49:00 -
[52] - Quote
I don't get how people can NOT figure out that this 3x SP event ONLY lasts 1 weekly sp cycle.
"Ends on July 10th downtime" the NEXT Normal weekly reset happens AFTER the downtime on Wednesday July 10th. |
Sloth9230
Reaper Galactic
2124
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Posted - 2013.07.02 07:50:00 -
[53] - Quote
Shrapnels wrote:I don't get how people can NOT figure out that this 3x SP event ONLY lasts 1 weekly sp cycle.
"Ends on July 10th downtime" the NEXT Normal weekly reset happens AFTER the downtime on Wednesday July 10th. ^he said it better |
Corn In TheSkidmark
Backstabbers N Cheaters Union
131
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Posted - 2013.07.02 07:51:00 -
[54] - Quote
Nguruthos IX wrote:CCP Cmdr Wang wrote:
Pretty sure the start and end times from previous SP bonus events are from downtime to downtime and it is the same for this Thursday's Triple SP event as well. So, it starts after this Thursday's July 4 downtime (11:30 GMT if no extended downtime) and ends at next Wednesday's July 10 downtime (11:00 GMT).
Except that isn't what happened in the last SP event. There was, in fact, a single day where people had the chance to cap out at an extra 900,000 SP or so. If you're saying this event is setup the same then there will be one huge day of grinding for a second triple SP cap. I assumed the same thing as you here, last time, and lost out on that SP. (Not QQ, just saying my reasoning was as logically sound as a DEV and served me no good).
Last triple SP event I capped out the main weeks 900k SP, then on the wed after the downtime I capped out another 900k in one day, took me 12hrs and a half liter of vodka |
Nguruthos IX
Hellstorm Inc League of Infamy
662
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Posted - 2013.07.02 07:54:00 -
[55] - Quote
Corn In TheSkidmark wrote:Nguruthos IX wrote:CCP Cmdr Wang wrote:
Pretty sure the start and end times from previous SP bonus events are from downtime to downtime and it is the same for this Thursday's Triple SP event as well. So, it starts after this Thursday's July 4 downtime (11:30 GMT if no extended downtime) and ends at next Wednesday's July 10 downtime (11:00 GMT).
Except that isn't what happened in the last SP event. There was, in fact, a single day where people had the chance to cap out at an extra 900,000 SP or so. If you're saying this event is setup the same then there will be one huge day of grinding for a second triple SP cap. I assumed the same thing as you here, last time, and lost out on that SP. (Not QQ, just saying my reasoning was as logically sound as a DEV and served me no good). Last triple SP event I capped out the main weeks 900k SP, then on the wed after the downtime I capped out another 900k in one day, took me 12hrs and a half liter of vodka only half a liter? You're no Russian.
:P |
Sloth9230
Reaper Galactic
2124
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Posted - 2013.07.02 07:55:00 -
[56] - Quote
Corn In TheSkidmark wrote: half liter of vodka Week. |
Corn In TheSkidmark
Backstabbers N Cheaters Union
131
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Posted - 2013.07.02 07:57:00 -
[57] - Quote
Nguruthos IX wrote:Corn In TheSkidmark wrote:Nguruthos IX wrote:CCP Cmdr Wang wrote:
Pretty sure the start and end times from previous SP bonus events are from downtime to downtime and it is the same for this Thursday's Triple SP event as well. So, it starts after this Thursday's July 4 downtime (11:30 GMT if no extended downtime) and ends at next Wednesday's July 10 downtime (11:00 GMT).
Except that isn't what happened in the last SP event. There was, in fact, a single day where people had the chance to cap out at an extra 900,000 SP or so. If you're saying this event is setup the same then there will be one huge day of grinding for a second triple SP cap. I assumed the same thing as you here, last time, and lost out on that SP. (Not QQ, just saying my reasoning was as logically sound as a DEV and served me no good). Last triple SP event I capped out the main weeks 900k SP, then on the wed after the downtime I capped out another 900k in one day, took me 12hrs and a half liter of vodka only half a liter? You're no Russian. :P Lol, I only drank the last 4 hrs, my brain was fried from 8hrs of straight dust, I had to make it fun again with some fine top shelf Karkov! |
Corn In TheSkidmark
Backstabbers N Cheaters Union
132
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Posted - 2013.07.02 07:59:00 -
[58] - Quote
Sloth9230 wrote:[quote=Corn In TheSkidmark] half liter of vodka Week.
Protip, when you rip on someone try to spell correctly |
Sloth9230
Reaper Galactic
2124
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Posted - 2013.07.02 08:05:00 -
[59] - Quote
Corn In TheSkidmark wrote:Sloth9230 wrote:[quote=Corn In TheSkidmark] half liter of vodka Week. Protip, when you rip on someone try to spell correctly Weeek? |
Sloth9230
Reaper Galactic
2124
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Posted - 2013.07.02 08:05:00 -
[60] - Quote
Wait, wait... wiik |
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Rogatien Merc
Ill Omens EoN.
230
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Posted - 2013.07.02 08:06:00 -
[61] - Quote
Shrapnels wrote:I don't get how people can NOT figure out that this 3x SP event ONLY lasts 1 weekly sp cycle.
Because last time it didn't.
Shrapnels wrote:"Ends on July 10th downtime" the NEXT Normal weekly reset happens AFTER the downtime on Wednesday July 10th.
CCP... ya'll rock. Truly appreciate this info before the event. Pre-emptively saved a metric shti ton of asspain and forum bitching on this one. +1 |
Nguruthos IX
Hellstorm Inc League of Infamy
663
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Posted - 2013.07.02 08:11:00 -
[62] - Quote
Sloth9230 wrote:Corn In TheSkidmark wrote:Sloth9230 wrote:[quote=Corn In TheSkidmark] half liter of vodka Week. Protip, when you rip on someone try to spell correctly Weeek?
wiek* |
Corn In TheSkidmark
Backstabbers N Cheaters Union
132
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Posted - 2013.07.02 08:37:00 -
[63] - Quote
LMAO |
Heavy Breaks
Ill Omens EoN.
76
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Posted - 2013.07.02 08:50:00 -
[64] - Quote
I am away Wednesday can I has my cap reset on Thursday then 3x start Friday?
I will buy a merc pack ccp, promise! |
Terra Thesis
HDYLTA Defiant Legacy
281
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Posted - 2013.07.02 11:12:00 -
[65] - Quote
CCP Cmdr Wang wrote:Pretty sure the start and end times from previous SP bonus events are from downtime to downtime and it is the same for this Thursday's Triple SP event as well. So, it starts after this Thursday's July 4 downtime (11:30 GMT if no extended downtime) and ends at next Wednesday's July 10 downtime (11:00 GMT).
Cmdr, that is definitely NOT how it worked. Yes it was from down time to down time but in the past the event was inclusive of Wednesday and the bonus SP window went past the SP reset by one day, incentivising us to skip work / ignore friends / avoid bio and marathon grind on that day to get another additional week of boosted SP. If this is not actually what you intended to do, I'm kinda glad, because i don't want to face the choice again between another 900k sp in one day versus preserving the tendons in my thumbs.
I appreciate all the explanation but i think one more parameter could really help clarify - the number of days in the event. From what i understand, you are changing it to a six day long event, starting from Thursday and ending on Wednesday, right? |
Crash Monster
Snipers Anonymous
880
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Posted - 2013.07.02 11:22:00 -
[66] - Quote
Please, can you retreads just give up... it's been clarified up the wazoo! |
Knight SoIaire
Rent-A-Murder Taxi
998
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Posted - 2013.07.02 11:23:00 -
[67] - Quote
So do I have to cap out Wednsday to not lose anything? |
loumanchew
Ametat Security Amarr Empire
33
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Posted - 2013.07.02 12:03:00 -
[68] - Quote
It is becoming obvious that some people:
a) Have not read the answers from CCP b) Don't know how to read c) Didn't get the answer that they wanted. therefore keep asking the same question while expecting a different result. |
Kaz Kyzer
Resheph Interstellar Strategy Gallente Federation
0
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Posted - 2013.07.02 12:14:00 -
[69] - Quote
if i capped out today do they reset the sp tommorow |
Thor Odinson42
Molon Labe. League of Infamy
495
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Posted - 2013.07.02 13:54:00 -
[70] - Quote
loumanchew wrote:It is becoming obvious that some people:
a) Have not read the answers from CCP b) Don't know how to read c) Didn't get the answer that they wanted. therefore keep asking the same question while expecting a different result.
I've read all the answers I can find and it's still clear as mud.
Will Wednesday's earned SP count toward the weekly cap or will there be a SP cap reset on Thursday? If you earn 1/3 SP of the weekly cap on Wednesday will you miss out on 1/3 of the TRIPLE SP?
So it's either going to be possible to cap out on 7/3/2013 at the normal SP accrual rate and then cap out again starting 7/4/2013 through the end of the event OR you are going to screw yourself by playing on 7/3/2013 |
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Thor Odinson42
Molon Labe. League of Infamy
495
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Posted - 2013.07.02 13:56:00 -
[71] - Quote
Kaz Kyzer wrote:if i capped out today do they reset the sp tommorow
They always reset on Wed morning. The question is will they reset on Wednesday morning as well as the following morning to allow for the 3x SP? |
KEROSIINI-TERO
Seraphim Initiative. CRONOS.
513
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Posted - 2013.07.02 15:07:00 -
[72] - Quote
Shrapnels wrote: Please Address this:
you should also Address the Other Skill Point Cap of 1WP to 1SP ratio up too 1,000 SP cap. That SP Cap needs to be Tripled also to give us players up too 3,000 SP.
That would create a six-day Grindweek from Hell. Well, happily my vacation starts on friday so I'm up for it. Ready for 50-100 match days. But weeping already just in case. =FFF |
Tank Gorillarape
Ill Omens EoN.
12
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Posted - 2013.07.02 16:46:00 -
[73] - Quote
What if we DONT CAP!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! |
Tank Gorillarape
Ill Omens EoN.
12
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Posted - 2013.07.02 16:56:00 -
[74] - Quote
im good nvm the last post i did lol |
Sloth9230
Reaper Galactic
2126
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Posted - 2013.07.02 19:03:00 -
[75] - Quote
loumanchew wrote:It is becoming obvious that some people:
a) Have not read the answers from CCP b) Don't know how to read c) Didn't get the answer that they wanted. therefore keep asking the same question while expecting a different result. Yup. |
Sponglyboy Squaredoo
Not Guilty EoN.
673
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Posted - 2013.07.03 00:51:00 -
[76] - Quote
Knight SoIaire wrote:So do I have to cap out Wednsday to not lose anything? No |
Second Cerberus
Villore Sec Ops Gallente Federation
41
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Posted - 2013.07.03 01:48:00 -
[77] - Quote
CCP Cmdr Wang wrote:Hi all, So here are the answers to questionis regarding the triple SP event. 1. The weekly SP cap will reset on Wednesday, July 3rd as usual after DT. If you hit your weekly in the first day then you will still be eligible for the extended SP cap for the event on Thursday. For example, if the weekly SP cap was 1000 and you hit the cap on Wednesday before the event starts, then on Thursday we will extend the weekly SP cap to 3000 so you will have an extra 2000 added to your weekly SP cap for the event. Of course, the number I used in the example is just an arbitray number and not the actual SP cap amounts in order to illustrate the point. 2. The passive SP gain and caps are not part of the triple SP event, so they will work normally. 3. Your extra SP earned from skill boosters do not count towards your weekly SP cap. For more info on that go to https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=74943&find=unreadIn other words, you won't miss out on earning any extra skill points from the Triple SP event if you hit your weekly cap this Wednesday. The amount of SP you earn on Wednesday will not affect the amount of extra SP cap available to you from the event.
I understand that active SP is separate from your weekly cap, however does the 3X SP apply to the active SP gain?
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Celus Ivara
DUST University Ivy League
44
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Posted - 2013.07.03 09:21:00 -
[78] - Quote
'Kay, some people are still confused, so I'll illustrate the two scenarios:
CCP Cmdr Wang wrote:Hi all, So here are the answers to questionis regarding the triple SP event. 1. The weekly SP cap will reset on Wednesday, July 3rd as usual after DT. If you hit your weekly in the first day then you will still be eligible for the extended SP cap for the event on Thursday. For example, if the weekly SP cap was 1000 and you hit the cap on Wednesday before the event starts, then on Thursday we will extend the weekly SP cap to 3000 so you will have an extra 2000 added to your weekly SP cap for the event. Of course, the number I used in the example is just an arbitray number and not the actual SP cap amounts in order to illustrate the point. 2. The passive SP gain and caps are not part of the triple SP event, so they will work normally. 3. Your extra SP earned from skill boosters do not count towards your weekly SP cap. For more info on that go to https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=74943&find=unreadIn other words, you won't miss out on earning any extra skill points from the Triple SP event if you hit your weekly cap this Wednesday. The amount of SP you earn on Wednesday will not affect the amount of extra SP cap available to you from the event. Numbers 1 & 3 are the salient points here.
So #3 says "Booster SP doesn't count toward weekly SP cap." (Which has always been the case, BTW.)
Now, with that in mind, let's run the two scenarios stated in #1.
First scenario: I have a booster and play all day Wednesday and cap out, then play during 3x SP and cap out. So, I play all day Wednesday and cap out. Cap stops me at an earned 1000 SP; and (since booster doesn't effect cap) I pulled an extra 500 SP. Wednesday total = 1500 SP Then the next day, 3x SP starts, cap is extended; I play all week, get 2000 SP earned, and 1000 SP from the booster. Thursday to end of week total = 3000 SP Final total = 4500 SP
Second scenario: I have a booster, skip Wednesday, then play the rest week capping out. Wednesday I do nothing, earning 0 SP. Thursday through the end of the week I play till cap, earning 3000 SP and booster pulls an extra 1500 SP. Final total = 4500 SP
Conclusion: Wednesday is just a day like any other. Maybe go play some Dust. Or maybe go take a nap and dream about cupcakes. ;)
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ZymposieR Rusty
Norwegian Dust514 Corporation
0
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Posted - 2013.07.03 09:38:00 -
[79] - Quote
But but but..........
"During the event period your skill point cap will be tripled and your skill booster bonuses are stacked with the triple skill point reward. "
U say:
First scenario: I have a booster and play all day Wednesday and cap out, then play during 3x SP and cap out. So, I play all day Wednesday and cap out. Cap stops me at an earned 1000 SP; and (since booster doesn't effect cap) I pulled an extra 500 SP. Wednesday total = 1500 SP Then the next day, 3x SP starts, cap is extended; I play all week, get 2000 SP earned, and 1000 SP from the booster. Thursday to end of week total = 3000 SP Final total = 4500 SP
I say:
First scenario: I have a booster and play all day Wednesday and cap out, then play during 3x SP and cap out. So, I play all day Wednesday and cap out. Cap stops me at an earned 1000 SP; and (since booster doesn't effect cap) I pulled an extra 500 SP. Wednesday total = 1500 SP Then the next day, 3x SP starts, cap is extended; I play all week, get 2000 SP earned, and 3x1000 SP from the booster. Thursday to end of week total = 5000 SP Total 6500SP
Second scenario: I have a booster, skip Wednesday, then play the rest week capping out. Wednesday I do nothing, earning 0 SP. Thursday through the end of the week I play till cap, earning 3000 SP and booster pulls an extra 3x1500 SP. Booster = 4500 SP
Final total = 7500 SP
I'm usually wrong , probably this time too, but its nice to be sure...
Are u sure Celus Ivara? If so tnx for an great example.....
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Celus Ivara
DUST University Ivy League
46
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Posted - 2013.07.03 09:58:00 -
[80] - Quote
ZymposieR Rusty wrote:But but but.......... "During the event period your skill point cap will be tripled and your skill booster bonuses are stacked with the triple skill point reward. " U say: First scenario: I have a booster and play all day Wednesday and cap out, then play during 3x SP and cap out. So, I play all day Wednesday and cap out. Cap stops me at an earned 1000 SP; and (since booster doesn't effect cap) I pulled an extra 500 SP. Wednesday total = 1500 SP Then the next day, 3x SP starts, cap is extended; I play all week, get 2000 SP earned, and 1000 SP from the booster. Thursday to end of week total = 3000 SP Final total = 4500 SP I say: First scenario: I have a booster and play all day Wednesday and cap out, then play during 3x SP and cap out. So, I play all day Wednesday and cap out. Cap stops me at an earned 1000 SP; and (since booster doesn't effect cap) I pulled an extra 500 SP. Wednesday total = 1500 SP Then the next day, 3x SP starts, cap is extended; I play all week, get 2000 SP earned, and 3x1000 SP from the booster. Thursday to end of week total = 5000 SP Total 6500SP Second scenario: I have a booster, skip Wednesday, then play the rest week capping out. Wednesday I do nothing, earning 0 SP. Thursday through the end of the week I play till cap, earning 3000 SP and booster pulls an extra 3x1500 SP. Booster = 4500 SP Final total = 7500 SP I'm usually wrong , probably this time too , but its nice to be sure... Are u sure Celus Ivara? If so tnx for an great example..... I... I'm pretty sure "3x SP" means 3x to earned SP, with the booster being added on normally on top of that. Like the SP from the booster is already tripled, because the earned SP it comes from is tripled.
I don't think CCP is giving us a tripling of SP and a tripling of our multiplier. ...I could be wrong. ??? |
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Second Cerberus
Villore Sec Ops Gallente Federation
41
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Posted - 2013.07.03 11:24:00 -
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Celus Ivara wrote: I... I'm pretty sure "3x SP" means 3x to earned SP, with the booster being added on normally on top of that. Like the SP from the booster is already tripled, because the earned SP it comes from is tripled.
I don't think CCP is giving us a tripling of SP and a tripling of our multiplier. ...I could be wrong. ???
I agree with the interpretation that you will be awarded regular SP + active booster SP the total of which will then be tripled.
i.e. 1 regular + .5 active = 1.5 x 3 = 4.5 total awarded.
CCP should sell a boatload of boosters this week. |
Star Hawke
Holdfast Syndicate Amarr Empire
1
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Posted - 2013.07.03 11:56:00 -
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ok im confused with all this explanation. lets just make this simple can anyone answer this question
1) If I cap and get ~300k (w/ booster) on wednesday will i still get 900k on thursdays even if i dont play for the rest of the week?
2) Or will I get more sp if i play on starting wednesday or just wait for sp event? (this is provided I play the same number of hours) |
Sana Rayya
WASTELAND JUNK REMOVAL EoN.
5
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Posted - 2013.07.03 13:03:00 -
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1) If you cap out on Wednesday, you will still need to cap out on Thursday to take advantage of the expanded SP cap. It is not automatically granted to you just because you capped on Wednesday.
2) Say you spend 11 hrs capping Wednesday. On Thursday you will need to earn another 600k SP, but your SP gain rate will be 3x, so it will probably take you about 7.3 hrs to hit cap. Your total playtime would be 18.3 hrs.
3) False. The cap will be extended to 900k on boosters; it is not an additional 900k on top of the cap on Wednesday. It's just the extension takes place on Thursday.
In terms of time spent, it's better to wait until Thursday to cap, since it will be like capping within your normal time but with 3x the gain and 3x the cap. If you cap out Wednesday you'll end up playing 7.3 more hours (or 2/3rds your cap time) to reach the same goal, and you'll only be ahead by 3.6 hrs of playtime after cap.
What I'm curious about is how the 3x will affect the SP limit after you reach cap. Even if you are capped at 1500 SP per game, will you be able to earn this 1500 SP while only obtaining 334 WP - 3x + 1.5x on booster?
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Tallen Ellecon
KILL-EM-QUICK RISE of LEGION
161
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Posted - 2013.07.03 13:10:00 -
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So essentially the cap will be quadrupled on Thursday and we all get 3 times as much per match? |
Altina McAlterson
Not Guilty EoN.
590
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Posted - 2013.07.03 13:13:00 -
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Star Hawke wrote:ok im confused with all this explanation. lets just make this simple can anyone answer this question
1) If I cap and get ~300k (w/ booster) on wednesday will i still get 900k on thursdays even if i dont play for the rest of the week?
2) Or will I get more sp if i play starting wednesday or just wait for sp event? (this is provided I play the same number of hours)
3)true or false ? i can get 300k sp on wednesday "plus" 900k sp thursday to tuesday No that's stupid. It's so simple I don't understand how people still don't get it.
The cap starting Thursday will be 571,200 SP. Doesn't matter when you earn the SP, when you hit 571,200 you cap out and start getting a max of 1,000 SP per match. If you earn 100,000 SP on Wednesday then on Thursday you will have 471,200 SP left until you cap out.
It's just that simple. No 'what if' needed, it's just an increased cap. |
Sana Rayya
WASTELAND JUNK REMOVAL EoN.
5
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Posted - 2013.07.03 13:17:00 -
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Tallen Ellecon wrote:So essentially the cap will be quadrupled on Thursday and we all get 3 times as much per match?
Why quadrupled? It will be tripled. See Altina's post and multiply that number by 1.5 if you are on a booster. |
Star Hawke
Holdfast Syndicate Amarr Empire
1
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Posted - 2013.07.03 13:49:00 -
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Thanks Sana
ill play thursday then. i thought before I was getting more SP if I play early
yah in previous event you only need 344 wp to get 1500 sp (w/ booster) im gonna grind those in quick ambush after im cap ^_^ |
Roofer Madness
Unkn0wn Killers
21
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Posted - 2013.07.03 13:57:00 -
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OK, I am VERY clear on the 3x SP cap dealy after reading and re-reading and re-reading all the explanations on here. But I would just love it if CCP could chime in on what happens after the cap. Are we still getting 3x on the active boosters? I need to know. Some of us have lives we need to make up excuses for so we can grind all week. Enough of this speculation. Or is this part of the meta-game too?!? Thanks in advance. |
Altina McAlterson
Not Guilty EoN.
593
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Posted - 2013.07.03 15:37:00 -
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Roofer Madness wrote:OK, I am VERY clear on the 3x SP cap dealy after reading and re-reading and re-reading all the explanations on here. But I would just love it if CCP could chime in on what happens after the cap. Are we still getting 3x on the active boosters? I need to know. Some of us have lives we need to make up excuses for so we can grind all week. Enough of this speculation. Or is this part of the meta-game too?!? Thanks in advance. What are you talking about? You get 3 SP per WP up to 1,000 SP (1,500 w/ booster) so what's the problem? |
Jean Mclain
The Malevolent Monkey Militia
5
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Posted - 2013.07.03 15:45:00 -
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Crash Monster wrote:Please, can you retreads just give up... it's been clarified up the wazoo!
Crash Monster wrote:retreads http://www.cradertire.com/retreader.jpg |
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DUST Fiend
OSG Planetary Operations Covert Intervention
4302
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Posted - 2013.07.03 15:47:00 -
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Altina McAlterson wrote:Roofer Madness wrote:OK, I am VERY clear on the 3x SP cap dealy after reading and re-reading and re-reading all the explanations on here. But I would just love it if CCP could chime in on what happens after the cap. Are we still getting 3x on the active boosters? I need to know. Some of us have lives we need to make up excuses for so we can grind all week. Enough of this speculation. Or is this part of the meta-game too?!? Thanks in advance. What are you talking about? You get 3 SP per WP up to 1,000 SP (1,500 w/ booster) so what's the problem? That's just it, has this actually been confirmed, or does it boost your end cap to 3000 / 4500 with booster. I imagine it's the first, but it would be nice to have some actual confirmation. |
Altina McAlterson
Not Guilty EoN.
594
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Posted - 2013.07.03 16:28:00 -
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DUST Fiend wrote:Altina McAlterson wrote:Roofer Madness wrote:OK, I am VERY clear on the 3x SP cap dealy after reading and re-reading and re-reading all the explanations on here. But I would just love it if CCP could chime in on what happens after the cap. Are we still getting 3x on the active boosters? I need to know. Some of us have lives we need to make up excuses for so we can grind all week. Enough of this speculation. Or is this part of the meta-game too?!? Thanks in advance. What are you talking about? You get 3 SP per WP up to 1,000 SP (1,500 w/ booster) so what's the problem? That's just it, has this actually been confirmed, or does it boost your end cap to 3000 / 4500 with booster. I imagine it's the first, but it would be nice to have some actual confirmation. That's the way it was the first time. Not to mention giving 3k per match after cap was be completely insane as that's almost as much as most people get in an ambush before the cap. |
KEROSIINI-TERO
Seraphim Initiative. CRONOS.
515
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Posted - 2013.07.03 17:25:00 -
[93] - Quote
Guys. Go check on this official thread with Blue Dev answers. Especially this https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=999569#post999569
Easen up on the multiple threads on people asking the same questions....... |
Daxxis KANNAH
Tronhadar Free Guard Minmatar Republic
134
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Posted - 2013.07.03 17:28:00 -
[94] - Quote
So a 7 day passive booster and a (how much ever day active booster) you need to cap out to bring in the best haul of SP for this week?
Asking as I've never used the booster before. |
Star Hawke
Holdfast Syndicate Amarr Empire
1
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Posted - 2013.07.04 07:17:00 -
[95] - Quote
After reading Commander Wang's post
Here what I understand:
If you cap on wednesday 200k sp (190k rounded to nearest hundred) you will get the remaining 400k the following day insted of 600k
so if you start playing wednesday (200k x 1) + ( 400ksp x 3 SP) we get on thursday onwards = 1400k SP but if if you wait for the event 600k x 3 = 1800k SP
Then playing on Wednesday is not a good Idea!!
Its safe to say it better to wait for thursday event
Right!!! |
Koloblikin Nikanoru
Planetary Response Organization
1
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Posted - 2013.07.04 21:33:00 -
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Liars!!!! I got 90k of my cap yesterday, leaving 100k today I log in to 300k to cap they only tripled what was left even tho very clearly in this post they said you would get triple the total (190k) minus what u already earned on wed |
hooc roht
Deep Space Republic Top Men.
201
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Posted - 2013.07.04 21:36:00 -
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CCP Cmdr Wang wrote:Hi all, So here are the answers to questionis regarding the triple SP event. 1. The weekly SP cap will reset on Wednesday, July 3rd as usual after DT. If you hit your weekly in the first day then you will still be eligible for the extended SP cap for the event on Thursday. For example, if the weekly SP cap was 1000 and you hit the cap on Wednesday before the event starts, then on Thursday we will extend the weekly SP cap to 3000 so you will have an extra 2000 added to your weekly SP cap for the event. Of course, the number I used in the example is just an arbitray number and not the actual SP cap amounts in order to illustrate the point. 2. The passive SP gain and caps are not part of the triple SP event, so they will work normally. 3. Your extra SP earned from skill boosters do not count towards your weekly SP cap. For more info on that go to https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=74943&find=unread
lulz at all the people who "liked" this Dev post. |
Daxxis KANNAH
Tronhadar Free Guard Minmatar Republic
137
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Posted - 2013.07.04 21:42:00 -
[98] - Quote
hooc roht wrote:CCP Cmdr Wang wrote:Hi all, So here are the answers to questionis regarding the triple SP event. 1. The weekly SP cap will reset on Wednesday, July 3rd as usual after DT. If you hit your weekly in the first day then you will still be eligible for the extended SP cap for the event on Thursday. For example, if the weekly SP cap was 1000 and you hit the cap on Wednesday before the event starts, then on Thursday we will extend the weekly SP cap to 3000 so you will have an extra 2000 added to your weekly SP cap for the event. Of course, the number I used in the example is just an arbitray number and not the actual SP cap amounts in order to illustrate the point. 2. The passive SP gain and caps are not part of the triple SP event, so they will work normally. 3. Your extra SP earned from skill boosters do not count towards your weekly SP cap. For more info on that go to https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=74943&find=unread lulz at all the people who "liked" this Dev post.
Why laugh at the people who approved what was supposed to be case.
It is more a scarlet letter for CCP -
And a clear warning sign to all those who tout "EVE Developer" "10 years" bla bla bla |
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