No. Because all CCP has done is promote a game that hasn't been delivered. I might add they may say there are but who knows. I am asking when we are expecting this magical game to turn up. 3 months 6 months 1 year 2 years 3 years ..... Etc

The promotion of these game mechanics have been going on for a year and a half. That as a fact they will turn up. When all I am asking is when.

Under the tables deals don't force me to give my credit card information to CCP to purchase items. So even with that logic, Dust 514 is STILL free.

Dust is not free. Your wrong to keep saying that. It may free to play (after you have purchased the necessary equipment needed to play but it certainly isn't free to develop, host servers etc.)

I can only lol at your lack of reading. By doing so you'd know the subject of my debate with him was dust being free to play.

And you tried to insult me with reading comprehension.

Yes 1.2 is only one of many, but when you've been around as long as I have (over a year) and very little has changed you get pretty fed up. I for one will not be playing in 1.2, not enough new material for me to come back. Until we see some changes other than a simple isk transfer system (we asked for a trade system! Not this! Classic ccp always listening to the fan base) then I won't be playing dust or buying boosters (I've spent over 100 in aurum/merc packs, ill show my disapproval with my wallet). Well this will probably be my last post until the next update, until then ill be putting my money into finished games and collecting passive.

Then stop writing free as stand alone

Name one game that has the same genre and game mechanics as dust..

Considering the subject of the discussion between me and him were "dust being free to play", i have the ability to use literacy to talk about the topic mentioned, without having to reiterate each sentence that "what im saying is dust is free to play, not free to develop", which it costing money to develop was never a topic mentioned in our discussion anyways.

Are you gonna start correcting my grammar now while you post "your" instead of "you're"?

I know the english language is considered hard to learn, but please attempt to try.

Name one game that has the same genre and game mechanics as dust.

I ask because Dust is alone in the FPS metagame genre. So what competition are you referring to? Games like Destiny that will become stale after 2 months? CoD series which gets boring after 2 weeks? Or maybe you think the bug ridden **** fest that is PS2 is somehow a more developed game because they will port to ps4 and follow the normal 3 month update schedule (if you are lucky) of most playstation games? I'm intrigued by this.

Edit - rephrased first sentence.

Tbh I think your use of FTP and free interchangeably is a mistake. I think it shows a failure to understand the point about the FTP business model and what constitutes free I may be wrong why But it may be why you think CCP has no obligations to customers. And what CCP is trying to achieve using this model.

Dust 514 cost me absolutely nothing to play it. It cost me nothing to gain 8 mil SP, and as i continue to play...i will still not pay any money to CCP to enjoy Dust, unless i decide otherwise.

CCP providing a means for you to decide on your own free will to purchase items that you can achieve in the long run (or quicker SP accrual) without spending money, does not give CCP an obligation to ANYONE playing Dust.

I think you are having a hard time understanding the fact that paying to play dust is optional.

And you don't understand, that a "GAME" that no one plays, is not much of a "GAME"... in the end of the day CCP is in the business of making games. A company that makes games for a living have an obligation to Gamers, free to play or not.

I'm pretty sure theres 5-8k players on during peak hours. So the game isn't at the stage of "no one playing", and hasn't been since i started playing.

CCP is indeed in the business of making games, and they met that obligation by providing you with the game to play.

Anything else you feel obligated/entitled to is your own misguided prerogative.

I'm pretty sure theres 5-8k players on during peak hours. So the game isn't at the stage of "no one playing", and hasn't been since i started playing.

CCP is indeed in the business of making games, and they met that obligation by providing you with the game to play.

Anything else you feel obligated/entitled to is your own misguided prerogative.

Yes im sure tons & tons of people are gonna suddenly start playing

By that point people will have 30-40 million skill points & it will be even harder for new players to compete

CCP might as well save the money and spend it on actually trying to make the game ''playable''

Actually... almost every game in the market is Free to play online, after you buy the original copy of the game. Is only few subscription games left, and most of them have change to the much more "profitable" F2P model.

I don't think you really understand what Free To Play means... it is a marketing model.

Last post on this. Your first statement is factually wrong. You fail to understand there is no such thing as free. You paid for your equipment, your Internet and your time.

Google search free and economics

I would like to see CCP come out and say to paying customers we don't owe you anything.

I never said to you that paying to play dust wasn't optional.

Last post on this. Your first statement is factually wrong. You fail to understand there is no such thing as free. You paid for your equipment, your Internet and your time.

Google search free and economics

I would like to see CCP come out and say to paying customers we don't owe you anything.

I never said to you that paying to play dust wasn't optional.

What competition. DUST doesn't have any competition. Every game with a gun in your hands is not competition to each other. No other existing game or incoming will have the persistence, complexion or your actions to meter like dust has.
PS2 sucks, so shallow and i don't even have a slightly desire to experience Destiny. Played WOW for 5 years, God forgive me and i don't have intention to play games like that anymore in my life.

Tnx to God to CCP and it's MMOs

Heavies, Tankers, Scouts, Logis all need upwards of 16-18 million to completely specialize.

Also 16-18 mil to specialize. You must have done very horrible with the skill tree.

What competition. DUST doesn't have any competition. Every game with a gun in your hands is not competition to each other. No other existing game or incoming will have the persistence, complexion or your actions to meter like dust has.
PS2 sucks, so shallow and i don't even have a slightly desire to experience Destiny. Played WOW for 5 years, God forgive me and i don't have intention to play games like that anymore in my life.

Tnx to God to CCP and it's MMOs

Company A says we are making this awesome game we are going to deliver it its going to be totally amazing. We deliver x y z mechanics. We plan to do this soon. Said for the past year and a half.

Game hasn't been delivered.

Ok tell me when this game will be delivered?

Which point don't you understand.