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Bubba Brown
Militaires Sans Jeux
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Posted - 2013.06.30 04:17:00 -
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dust isn't going to become good overnight. no one patch will repair every problem with the game. there will be lots of small patches that fix specific things and add a couple things at a time. in TOTAL dust will become good, but that's probably not going to really become apparent until early next year, maybe summer or so?
don't expect miracles on a monthly basis.
but the game will, eventually, get good. just how eve did (or is still doing, if you're that kind of person) |
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Delta 749
Kestrel Reconnaissance
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Posted - 2013.06.30 04:20:00 -
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Dont expect this game to have any real sort of player base if it takes until next year to get this game halfway decent
Yeah yeah "EVE took a long time to get where it is now" EVE was also essentially alone in the sci fi spaceship based MMORPG area, Dust has a lot of competition and has spent years in development and a good year actually having people play it and provide their feedback but somehow in one feel swoop they were able to undo all the good of chromosome and give us this broken build |
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J'Jor Da'Wg
KILL-EM-QUICK RISE of LEGION
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Posted - 2013.06.30 04:20:00 -
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Same old song and dance. "things will get better" guess what its been a year and they havent, and they have said it will get better from the beginning. When i see actual improvement i will come back. I actually play waaayyy less than when it had basic stability issues like hard locks and such because at least the first beta build was fun and unique. Now its watered down crap that gives me the same enthusiasm level for playing as the foreknowledge of a particularly painful gastrointestinal movement... |
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Zekain K
Expert Intervention Caldari State
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Posted - 2013.06.30 04:20:00 -
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there way of developing games is terrible, and is not something the console audience has patience for. |
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Iron Wolf Saber
Den of Swords
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Posted - 2013.06.30 04:21:00 -
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At least the marketing budget is set aside and the ad campaign won't start until much later. |
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Kane Fyea
DUST University Ivy League
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Posted - 2013.06.30 04:25:00 -
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Delta 749 wrote:Dont expect this game to have any real sort of player base if it takes until next year to get this game halfway decent
Yeah yeah "EVE took a long time to get where it is now" EVE was also essentially alone in the sci fi spaceship based MMORPG area, Dust has a lot of competition and has spent years in development and a good year actually having people play it and provide their feedback but somehow in one feel swoop they were able to undo all the good of chromosome and give us this broken build How about you wait until CCP actually starts marketing this game. CCP said they aren't going to spend a lot of money on marketing until next year. |
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Delta 749
Kestrel Reconnaissance
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Posted - 2013.06.30 04:26:00 -
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Iron Wolf Saber wrote:At least the marketing budget is set aside and the ad campaign won't start until much later.
God I cant imagine how bad the backlash would be if they had heavily advertised this game |
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Delta 749
Kestrel Reconnaissance
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Posted - 2013.06.30 04:30:00 -
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Kane Fyea wrote:Delta 749 wrote:Dont expect this game to have any real sort of player base if it takes until next year to get this game halfway decent
Yeah yeah "EVE took a long time to get where it is now" EVE was also essentially alone in the sci fi spaceship based MMORPG area, Dust has a lot of competition and has spent years in development and a good year actually having people play it and provide their feedback but somehow in one feel swoop they were able to undo all the good of chromosome and give us this broken build How about you wait until CCP actually starts marketing this game. CCP said they aren't going to spend a lot of money on marketing until next year.
Again next year is far to late, just look at falls upcoming competition, then consider what next years competition will be like, then realize that be the time Dust gets around to advertising those are completely polished games that had the same amount of development time or even less will have their own dedicated player bases running on next gen systems while this game slowly putters along
If it helps you feel better I very much wont likely be around after summer so youll have one less person you have to pretend is crazy |
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Raymondo316
KILL-EM-QUICK RISE of LEGION
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Posted - 2013.06.30 04:34:00 -
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Iron Wolf Saber wrote:At least the marketing budget is set aside and the ad campaign won't start until much later. Yes im sure tons & tons of people are gonna suddenly start playing
By that point people will have 30-40 million skill points & it will be even worse on new players
CCP might as well save the money and spend it on trying to actually make the game ''good'' |
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Kane Fyea
DUST University Ivy League
498
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Posted - 2013.06.30 04:47:00 -
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Raymondo316 wrote:Iron Wolf Saber wrote:At least the marketing budget is set aside and the ad campaign won't start until much later. Yes im sure tons & tons of people are gonna suddenly start playing By that point people will have 30-40 million skill points & it will be even harder for new players to compete ![Roll](https://forums.dust514.com/Images/Emoticons/ccp_roll.png) CCP might as well save the money and spend it on actually trying to make the game ''playable'' Actually you complete your specialization by 12 mill. Also EVE does the same thing just fine. |
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Kane Fyea
DUST University Ivy League
498
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Posted - 2013.06.30 04:50:00 -
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Delta 749 wrote:Kane Fyea wrote:Delta 749 wrote:Dont expect this game to have any real sort of player base if it takes until next year to get this game halfway decent
Yeah yeah "EVE took a long time to get where it is now" EVE was also essentially alone in the sci fi spaceship based MMORPG area, Dust has a lot of competition and has spent years in development and a good year actually having people play it and provide their feedback but somehow in one feel swoop they were able to undo all the good of chromosome and give us this broken build How about you wait until CCP actually starts marketing this game. CCP said they aren't going to spend a lot of money on marketing until next year. Again next year is far to late, just look at falls upcoming competition, then consider what next years competition will be like, then realize that be the time Dust gets around to advertising those are completely polished games that had the same amount of development time or even less will have their own dedicated player bases running on next gen systems while this game slowly putters along If it helps you feel better I very much wont likely be around after summer so youll have one less person you have to pretend is crazy Wow Ps2. Yea that's some competition there /sarcasm. Destiny does look good but it wont give the same experience as dust does. |
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Buster Friently
Rosen Association
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Posted - 2013.06.30 05:11:00 -
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Kane Fyea wrote:Raymondo316 wrote:Iron Wolf Saber wrote:At least the marketing budget is set aside and the ad campaign won't start until much later. Yes im sure tons & tons of people are gonna suddenly start playing By that point people will have 30-40 million skill points & it will be even harder for new players to compete ![Roll](https://forums.dust514.com/Images/Emoticons/ccp_roll.png) CCP might as well save the money and spend it on actually trying to make the game ''playable'' Actually you complete your specialization by 12 mill. Also EVE does the same thing just fine.
Thanks for posting this so I don't have to.
Also, I think all the naysayers will be surprised at what the "console community" will have patience for. We will see. |
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Delta 749
Kestrel Reconnaissance
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Posted - 2013.06.30 05:45:00 -
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Kane Fyea wrote:Delta 749 wrote:Kane Fyea wrote:Delta 749 wrote:Dont expect this game to have any real sort of player base if it takes until next year to get this game halfway decent
Yeah yeah "EVE took a long time to get where it is now" EVE was also essentially alone in the sci fi spaceship based MMORPG area, Dust has a lot of competition and has spent years in development and a good year actually having people play it and provide their feedback but somehow in one feel swoop they were able to undo all the good of chromosome and give us this broken build How about you wait until CCP actually starts marketing this game. CCP said they aren't going to spend a lot of money on marketing until next year. Again next year is far to late, just look at falls upcoming competition, then consider what next years competition will be like, then realize that be the time Dust gets around to advertising those are completely polished games that had the same amount of development time or even less will have their own dedicated player bases running on next gen systems while this game slowly putters along If it helps you feel better I very much wont likely be around after summer so youll have one less person you have to pretend is crazy Wow Ps2. Yea that's some competition there /sarcasm. Destiny does look good but it wont give the same experience as dust does.
Ah yes the Dust experience With its hit detection and aiming issues, terrible balance, missing the core suits to all races, tons of level geometry problems How will Destiny ever compete if it cant offer the Dust experience |
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Kane Fyea
DUST University Ivy League
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Posted - 2013.06.30 05:48:00 -
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Delta 749 wrote:Kane Fyea wrote:Delta 749 wrote:Kane Fyea wrote:Delta 749 wrote:Dont expect this game to have any real sort of player base if it takes until next year to get this game halfway decent
Yeah yeah "EVE took a long time to get where it is now" EVE was also essentially alone in the sci fi spaceship based MMORPG area, Dust has a lot of competition and has spent years in development and a good year actually having people play it and provide their feedback but somehow in one feel swoop they were able to undo all the good of chromosome and give us this broken build How about you wait until CCP actually starts marketing this game. CCP said they aren't going to spend a lot of money on marketing until next year. Again next year is far to late, just look at falls upcoming competition, then consider what next years competition will be like, then realize that be the time Dust gets around to advertising those are completely polished games that had the same amount of development time or even less will have their own dedicated player bases running on next gen systems while this game slowly putters along If it helps you feel better I very much wont likely be around after summer so youll have one less person you have to pretend is crazy Wow Ps2. Yea that's some competition there /sarcasm. Destiny does look good but it wont give the same experience as dust does. Ah yes the Dust experience With its hit detection and aiming issues, terrible balance, missing the core suits to all races, tons of level geometry problems How will Destiny ever compete if it cant offer the Dust experience Good thing CCP said that those issues (Mainly aiming, hit detection, and balance) are now the priority. Those will have greatly improved and been added by the time Destiny comes out next year.
Next. |
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Delta 749
Kestrel Reconnaissance
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Posted - 2013.06.30 06:06:00 -
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Show me where the things they promised last year are Kane and Ill have some faith in CCP |
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dday3six
Intrepidus XI Omega Commission
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Posted - 2013.06.30 06:15:00 -
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Kane Fyea wrote:Raymondo316 wrote:Iron Wolf Saber wrote:At least the marketing budget is set aside and the ad campaign won't start until much later. Yes im sure tons & tons of people are gonna suddenly start playing By that point people will have 30-40 million skill points & it will be even harder for new players to compete ![Roll](https://forums.dust514.com/Images/Emoticons/ccp_roll.png) CCP might as well save the money and spend it on actually trying to make the game ''playable'' Actually you complete your specialization by 12 mill. Also EVE does the same thing just fine.
Heavies, Tankers, Scouts, Logis all need upwards of 16-18 million to completely specialize.
Kane Fyea wrote:Good thing CCP said that those issues (Mainly aiming, hit detection, and balance) are now the priority. Those will have greatly improved and been added by the time Destiny comes out next year.
Next.
CCP says a lot things, but saying and actually doing are two completely different things. |
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Kane Fyea
DUST University Ivy League
505
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Posted - 2013.06.30 06:21:00 -
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dday3six wrote:Kane Fyea wrote:Raymondo316 wrote:Iron Wolf Saber wrote:At least the marketing budget is set aside and the ad campaign won't start until much later. Yes im sure tons & tons of people are gonna suddenly start playing By that point people will have 30-40 million skill points & it will be even harder for new players to compete ![Roll](https://forums.dust514.com/Images/Emoticons/ccp_roll.png) CCP might as well save the money and spend it on actually trying to make the game ''playable'' Actually you complete your specialization by 12 mill. Also EVE does the same thing just fine. Heavies, Tankers, Scouts, Logis all need upwards of 16-18 million to completely specialize. Kane Fyea wrote:Good thing CCP said that those issues (Mainly aiming, hit detection, and balance) are now the priority. Those will have greatly improved and been added by the time Destiny comes out next year.
Next. CCP says a lot things, but saying and actually doing are two completely different things. I guarantee you since there is only 5k players at peak times that CCP are working their asses off. |
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The Sound Of Freedom Renegade Alliance
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Posted - 2013.06.30 06:22:00 -
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Delta 749 wrote:Dont expect this game to have any real sort of player base if it takes until next year to get this game halfway decent
Yeah yeah "EVE took a long time to get where it is now" EVE was also essentially alone in the sci fi spaceship based MMORPG area, Dust has a lot of competition and has spent years in development and a good year actually having people play it and provide their feedback but somehow in one feel swoop they were able to undo all the good of chromosome and give us this broken build
the old set 'em up knock 'em down.
the eve gods don't care if you come or go. they're heartless. |
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Kane Fyea
DUST University Ivy League
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Posted - 2013.06.30 06:23:00 -
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Delta 749 wrote:Show me where the things they promised last year are Kane and Ill have some faith in CCP You don't need to have faith. If they don't do it well then they don't. There's many times devs have to change their plans completely because of what their players are saying, bugs/glitches come up, deadlines and many other things. If you can't get that through your head then your hopeless. |
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xAckie
Ahrendee Mercenaries Omega Commission
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Posted - 2013.06.30 06:23:00 -
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Delta 749 wrote:Iron Wolf Saber wrote:At least the marketing budget is set aside and the ad campaign won't start until much later. God I cant imagine how bad the backlash would be if they had heavily advertised this game
IWS I am beginning to think you are a troll.
This game has already been marketed. And promoted heavily by CCP. there are numerous interviews done by CCP ANC promotions over the past year. And gameplay time with journalists and at conventions.. What do you think marketing is?
They promoted it and the game reviews came in. And what was the verdict of these game reviews?...... |
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dday3six
Intrepidus XI Omega Commission
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Posted - 2013.06.30 06:25:00 -
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Kane Fyea wrote:I guarantee you since there is only 5k players at peak times that CCP are working their asses off.
Do you work for CCP? Do you set in on there department meeting? Maybe you hacked into their emails. No...No I don't think so. Fact is you can't guarantee anything of the sort. |
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Kane Fyea
DUST University Ivy League
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Posted - 2013.06.30 06:26:00 -
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xAckie wrote:Delta 749 wrote:Iron Wolf Saber wrote:At least the marketing budget is set aside and the ad campaign won't start until much later. God I cant imagine how bad the backlash would be if they had heavily advertised this game IWS I am beginning to think you are a troll. This game has already been marketed. And promoted heavily by CCP. there are numerous interviews done by CCP ANC promotions over the past year. And gameplay time with journalists and at conventions.. What do you think marketing is? They promoted it and the game reviews came in. And what was the verdict of these game reviews?...... They haven't showed a single tv ad, very little website ads, (The only time you see them is when you search for things eve or dust related on google) and many other advertisements.
Also don't say the PS store advertised it either because any new game gets put up on the front page for at least a week. |
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BurgezzE.T.F
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Posted - 2013.06.30 06:28:00 -
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I don't see the problem here....
I for one see no reason to leave atm.
I mean I might decide to stop hitting cap each week if I get bored enough, but I plan to stick around for any and all patches in the future waiting for the content to increase.
as a free game with passive sp why would I ever quit for good...
as for the rest of you don't let the door hit you on the way out, I don't give two flying fucks if you're here or not I'm a console gamer and I don't really get why everyone assumes everyone on a console is an impatient **** with ADD, that can't wait a month for a content patch.
I believe what most people are saying is THEY have no patience and THEY can't wait, please speak only for yourself >.> |
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Kane Fyea
DUST University Ivy League
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Posted - 2013.06.30 06:30:00 -
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dday3six wrote:Kane Fyea wrote:I guarantee you since there is only 5k players at peak times that CCP are working their asses off. Do you work for CCP? Do you set in on there department meeting? Maybe you hacked into their emails. No...No I don't think so. Fact is you can't guarantee anything of the sort. No but any dev with half a brain would see that 5k players is VERY lackluster (especially for a F2P game) and start picking up pace real quickly. Well that is unless they plan on shutting down dust soon which I don't see as a possibility yet. |
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Kane Fyea
DUST University Ivy League
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Posted - 2013.06.30 06:33:00 -
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calisk galern wrote:I believe what most people are saying is THEY have no patience and THEY can't wait, please speak only for yourself >.> Seriously I've been waiting for a year and am still looking forward to the next year. It takes a lot of time to develop a game especially on one of the hardest machines to develop on thanks to the ps3's many bottlenecks and CELL architecture. |
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dday3six
Intrepidus XI Omega Commission
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Posted - 2013.06.30 06:38:00 -
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Kane Fyea wrote:dday3six wrote:Kane Fyea wrote:I guarantee you since there is only 5k players at peak times that CCP are working their asses off. Do you work for CCP? Do you set in on there department meeting? Maybe you hacked into their emails. No...No I don't think so. Fact is you can't guarantee anything of the sort. No but any dev with half a brain would see that 5k players is VERY lackluster (especially for a F2P game) and start picking up pace real quickly. Well that is unless they plan on shutting down dust soon which I don't see as a possibility yet.
CCP is going to do whatever they want to do, they always have and always will. The only will question is whether that approach is going to work with Dust as it had with Eve. |
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Iron Wolf Saber
Den of Swords
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Posted - 2013.06.30 06:39:00 -
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dday3six wrote:Kane Fyea wrote:I guarantee you since there is only 5k players at peak times that CCP are working their asses off. Do you work for CCP? Do you set in on there department meeting? Maybe you hacked into their emails. No...No I don't think so. Fact is you can't guarantee anything of the sort.
I may not work for them but I work WITH them. I do sit at most meetings scheduled and I can certainly tell you CCP is indeed hard at work and shifted gears from the machine that brought you Uprising. |
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TeamPlayers EoN.
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Posted - 2013.06.30 06:41:00 -
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I can't wait for PS4 and all the new games to come out. Then the trolls will have something else to do besides post the same **** here over and over again.
Of course, they'll get bored with PS2's massive clusterfuck battles, BF4's restrictive classes, and Destiny's "borderlandsness" and come right back to Dust. Hopefully they'll have less to ***** about by then. ![P](https://forums.dust514.com/Images/Emoticons/ccp_p.png) |
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Kane Fyea
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Posted - 2013.06.30 06:43:00 -
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McFurious wrote:I can't wait for PS4 and all the new games to come out. Then the trolls will have something else to do besides post the same **** here over and over again. Of course, they'll get bored with PS2's massive clusterfuck battles, BF4's restrictive classes, and Destiny's "borderlandsness" and come right back to Dust. Hopefully they'll have less to ***** about by then. ![P](https://forums.dust514.com/Images/Emoticons/ccp_p.png) I'll probably play Destiny quite a bit simply because I love borderlands. That is of course if it isn't over hyped like plenty of other games are. It will never replace Dust though. |
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Posted - 2013.06.30 06:49:00 -
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McFurious wrote:I can't wait for PS4 and all the new games to come out. Then the trolls will have something else to do besides post the same **** here over and over again. Of course, they'll get bored with PS2's massive clusterfuck battles, BF4's restrictive classes, and Destiny's "borderlandsness" and come right back to Dust. Hopefully they'll have less to ***** about by then. ![P](https://forums.dust514.com/Images/Emoticons/ccp_p.png)
Depends on what a player wants out of a game. It's unlikely that if players put down Dust because it wasn't offering the gameplay expierence they were looking for that they'll come back. Now a player who was simply bored of Dust is more likely to come back after a period of time, IMO. |
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