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Duran Lex Silver Talon Corporation 26	Posted - 2013.06.30 08:13:00 - [1] - Quote It doesn't matter. The fools playing this game will continue to complain. Games always have the people that will constantly complain about the game, even after getting everything they want. Dust just has people who are FAR worse and feel entitled to being pampered to win without having to use skill to do so. Once they release all the game features they said were in development, people will start complaining that the items aren't in their favourite colour. As as soon as the items are available in their favourite color, they will complain theres no black variant. After they release the black variant, they will complain theres no white variant. CCP simply can't win with most of the crowd, because they feel like if they decided to play this game, either knowing or finding out its current state of development, while thinking they should be a Rock that is able to dominate Paper, Scissors, and other Rocks with ultimate ease, will continue to complain about every little thing that doesn't make their life happier by not winning at the game they are playing. I like to laugh on the inside at the ******* who complain all day long on the forums, yet sit there each week and hit their SP cap. Be an adult and have patience.
Duran Lex Silver Talon Corporation 26	Posted - 2013.06.30 08:18:00 - [2] - Quote Delta 749 wrote: Dont expect this game to have any real sort of player base if it takes until next year to get this game halfway decent Yeah yeah "EVE took a long time to get where it is now" EVE was also essentially alone in the sci fi spaceship based MMORPG area, Dust has a lot of competition and has spent years in development and a good year actually having people play it and provide their feedback but somehow in one feel swoop they were able to undo all the good of chromosome and give us this broken build Name one game that has the same genre and game mechanics as dust. I ask because Dust is alone in the FPS metagame genre. So what competition are you referring to? Games like Destiny that will become stale after 2 months? CoD series which gets boring after 2 weeks? Or maybe you think the bug ridden **** fest that is PS2 is somehow a more developed game because they will port to ps4 and follow the normal 3 month update schedule (if you are lucky) of most playstation games? I'm intrigued by this. Edit - rephrased first sentence.
Duran Lex Silver Talon Corporation 26	Posted - 2013.06.30 08:34:00 - [3] - Quote xAckie wrote: Duran Lex wrote: It doesn't matter. The fools playing this game will continue to complain. Games always have the people that will constantly complain about the game, even after getting everything they want. Dust just has people who are FAR worse and feel entitled to being pampered to win without having to use skill to do so. Once they release all the game features they said were in development, people will start complaining that the items aren't in their favourite colour. As as soon as the items are available in their favourite color, they will complain theres no black variant. After they release the black variant, they will complain theres no white variant. CCP simply can't win with most of the crowd, because they feel like if they decided to play this game, either knowing or finding out its current state of development, while thinking they should be a Rock that is able to dominate Paper, Scissors, and other Rocks with ultimate ease, will continue to complain about every little thing that doesn't make their life happier by not winning at the game they are playing. I like to laugh on the inside at the ******* who complain all day long on the forums, yet sit there each week and hit their SP cap. Be an adult and have patience. If they admit / tell me that player trading/ link with eve/ null/ mmo will be delivered in 2017 then I will come back then and see if they have improved the gameplay. I hope sooner than that. I am here trying to find out when the game CCP is advertising/ talks about delivering is actually supposed to turn up. Not this 90s lobby shooter But they won't tell us. Did Microsoft tell you in 1990 that they would release windows 95? Did sony say they were gonna create the ps3 a year after the ps2 was released? Did Blizzard tell you they were gonna make Warcraft 3 a few months after warcraft 2 came out? No. They didn't tell you anything until they felt it was the right time. CCP isn't psychic. They can't tell the future. They can only continue to work on the game they are developing. If you can't handle their schedule, i suggest you change yours.
Duran Lex Silver Talon Corporation 26	Posted - 2013.06.30 08:57:00 - [4] - Quote xAckie wrote: Duran Lex wrote: xAckie wrote: Duran Lex wrote: It doesn't matter. The fools playing this game will continue to complain. Games always have the people that will constantly complain about the game, even after getting everything they want. Dust just has people who are FAR worse and feel entitled to being pampered to win without having to use skill to do so. Once they release all the game features they said were in development, people will start complaining that the items aren't in their favourite colour. As as soon as the items are available in their favourite color, they will complain theres no black variant. After they release the black variant, they will complain theres no white variant. CCP simply can't win with most of the crowd, because they feel like if they decided to play this game, either knowing or finding out its current state of development, while thinking they should be a Rock that is able to dominate Paper, Scissors, and other Rocks with ultimate ease, will continue to complain about every little thing that doesn't make their life happier by not winning at the game they are playing. I like to laugh on the inside at the ******* who complain all day long on the forums, yet sit there each week and hit their SP cap. Be an adult and have patience. If they admit / tell me that player trading/ link with eve/ null/ mmo will be delivered in 2017 then I will come back then and see if they have improved the gameplay. I hope sooner than that. I am here trying to find out when the game CCP is advertising/ talks about delivering is actually supposed to turn up. Not this 90s lobby shooter But they won't tell us. Did Microsoft tell you in 1990 that they would release windows 95? Did sony say they were gonna create the ps3 a year after the ps2 was released? Did Blizzard tell you they were gonna make Warcraft 3 a few months after warcraft 2 came out? No. They didn't tell you anything until they felt it was the right time. CCP isn't psychic. They can't tell the future. They can only continue to work on the game they are developing. If you can't handle their schedule, i suggest you change yours. What are you talking about? I am stating what CCP are publicly promoting as the game we are playing . A game that people are paying money for. If they want to promote that game (and not the one we have) they should tell us when they expect it to turn up. Everything they have publicly promoted is correct. Your false interpretation of it doesn't make it incorrect. They never stated the trading between both games was implemented, PC makes it an MMO by definition, the game IS linked with currently linked with EVE, hence the star systems that are in both games, and they are improving the gameplay with each patch. So...what exactly are YOU talking about?
Duran Lex Silver Talon Corporation 26	Posted - 2013.06.30 09:30:00 - [5] - Quote xAckie wrote: They have promoted this vision publicly to journalists and at game conferences. "Vision" is they key word. Perhaps you should realize what you are saying, and what it means.
Duran Lex Silver Talon Corporation 26	Posted - 2013.06.30 09:35:00 - [6] - Quote Banning Hammer wrote: Duran Lex wrote: Everything they have publicly promoted is correct. Your false interpretation of it doesn't make it incorrect. They never stated the trading between both games was implemented, PC makes it an MMO by definition, the game IS linked with currently linked with EVE, hence the star systems that are in both games, and they are improving the gameplay with each patch. So...what exactly are YOU talking about? Edit - This is a free to play game, people deciding to spend money on it is of their own free will, and CCP owes them nothing for it. The argument that people payed money on a free to play game has absolutely no merit. Again with the "Free" game ...You may have free access to the game, but is not free. You need: - PS3 - Internet Connection - TV As a Sony exclusive they using the game to sell PS3's to EvE fans, and PC users. Also soon Vita's with the Dust 514 App. If you want to call Dust 514 truly FREE, it should be in the PC without exclusivity rights. The only flaw with your statement is that the game is still free regardless. If you can't afford a ps3, dust is still free. if you can't afford an internet connection, dust is still free. if you don't have a TV...guess what? Dust is free. Paying money to panasonic and comcast communications has no bearing on CCP providing a free game. Btw, you know that you also have to buy a computer if you wanted to play it on that, right?
Duran Lex Silver Talon Corporation 26	Posted - 2013.06.30 09:44:00 - [7] - Quote xAckie wrote: Duran Lex wrote: xAckie wrote: They have promoted this vision publicly to journalists and at game conferences. "Vision" is they key word. Perhaps you should realize what you are saying, and what it means. I do. And they say its going to be delivered. Usually with the term soon. But more importantly it was thy promote publicly as being a fact. Hence why I am asking when. I actually don't think you have any comprehension skills. And are unable to make any logical arguments. You just pointed out they said its going to be delivered...as in not yet implemented. Then in the same paragraph you say they promoted publicly these game mechanics were implemented, as fact. You don't see the problem there?
Duran Lex Silver Talon Corporation 26	Posted - 2013.06.30 09:47:00 - [8] - Quote Banning Hammer wrote: Duran Lex wrote: Banning Hammer wrote: Duran Lex wrote: Everything they have publicly promoted is correct. Your false interpretation of it doesn't make it incorrect. They never stated the trading between both games was implemented, PC makes it an MMO by definition, the game IS linked with currently linked with EVE, hence the star systems that are in both games, and they are improving the gameplay with each patch. So...what exactly are YOU talking about? Edit - This is a free to play game, people deciding to spend money on it is of their own free will, and CCP owes them nothing for it. The argument that people payed money on a free to play game has absolutely no merit. Again with the "Free" game ...You may have free access to the game, but is not free. You need: - PS3 - Internet Connection - TV As a Sony exclusive they using the game to sell PS3's to EvE fans, and PC users. Also soon Vita's with the Dust 514 App. If you want to call Dust 514 truly FREE, it should be in the PC without exclusivity rights. The only flaw with your statement is that the game is still free regardless. If you can't afford a ps3, dust is still free. if you can't afford an internet connection, dust is still free. if you don't have a TV...guess what? Dust is free. Paying money to panasonic and comcast communications has no bearing on CCP providing a free game. Btw, you know that you also have to buy a computer if you wanted to play it on that, right? Without a PS3, Dust is not free ... is similar with PC's, F2P games normally have "Under the table" deals with Graphic Card and CPU companies... Just look at the Recommended Specs for a game, and you'll see the "connection". Under the tables deals don't force me to give my credit card information to CCP to purchase items. So even with that logic, Dust 514 is STILL free.
Duran Lex Silver Talon Corporation 26	Posted - 2013.06.30 09:55:00 - [9] - Quote xAckie wrote: Duran Lex wrote: xAckie wrote: Duran Lex wrote: xAckie wrote: They have promoted this vision publicly to journalists and at game conferences. "Vision" is they key word. Perhaps you should realize what you are saying, and what it means. I do. And they say its going to be delivered. Usually with the term soon. But more importantly it was thy promote publicly as being a fact. Hence why I am asking when. I actually don't think you have any comprehension skills. And are unable to make any logical arguments. You just pointed out they said its going to be delivered...as in not yet implemented. Then in the same paragraph you say they promoted publicly these game mechanics were implemented, as fact. You don't see the problem there? No. Because all CCP has done is promote a game that hasn't been delivered. I might add they may say there are but who knows. I am asking when we are expecting this magical game to turn up. 3 months 6 months 1 year 2 years 3 years ..... Etc The promotion of these game mechanics have been going on for a year and a half. That as a fact they will turn up. When all I am asking is when. If you can't see the contradiction in your sentences, then no one can help you.
Duran Lex Silver Talon Corporation 26	Posted - 2013.06.30 09:59:00 - [10] - Quote xAckie wrote: Dust is not free. Your wrong to keep saying that. It may free to play (after you have purchased the necessary equipment needed to play but it certainly isn't free to develop, host servers etc.) I can only lol at your lack of reading. By doing so you'd know the subject of my debate with him was dust being free to play. And you tried to insult me with reading comprehension.

Duran Lex Silver Talon Corporation 26	Posted - 2013.06.30 10:15:00 - [11] - Quote xAckie wrote: Duran Lex wrote: xAckie wrote: Dust is not free. Your wrong to keep saying that. It may free to play (after you have purchased the necessary equipment needed to play but it certainly isn't free to develop, host servers etc.) I can only lol at your lack of reading. By doing so you'd know the subject of my debate with him was dust being free to play. And you tried to insult me with reading comprehension. Then stop writing free as stand alone Considering the subject of the discussion between me and him were "dust being free to play", i have the ability to use literacy to talk about the topic mentioned, without having to reiterate each sentence that "what im saying is dust is free to play, not free to develop", which it costing money to develop was never a topic mentioned in our discussion anyways. Are you gonna start correcting my grammar now while you post "your" instead of "you're"? I know the english language is considered hard to learn, but please attempt to try.
Duran Lex Silver Talon Corporation 26	Posted - 2013.06.30 10:35:00 - [12] - Quote xAckie wrote: Duran Lex wrote: xAckie wrote: Duran Lex wrote: xAckie wrote: Dust is not free. Your wrong to keep saying that. It may free to play (after you have purchased the necessary equipment needed to play but it certainly isn't free to develop, host servers etc.) I can only lol at your lack of reading. By doing so you'd know the subject of my debate with him was dust being free to play. And you tried to insult me with reading comprehension. Then stop writing free as stand alone Considering the subject of the discussion between me and him were "dust being free to play", i have the ability to use literacy to talk about the topic mentioned, without having to reiterate each sentence that "what im saying is dust is free to play, not free to develop", which it costing money to develop was never a topic mentioned in our discussion anyways. Are you gonna start correcting my grammar now while you post "your" instead of "you're"? I know the english language is considered hard to learn, but please attempt to try. Tbh I think your use of FTP and free interchangeably is a mistake. I think it shows a failure to understand the point about the FTP business model and what constitutes free I may be wrong why But it may be why you think CCP has no obligations to customers. And what CCP is trying to achieve using this model. Dust 514 cost me absolutely nothing to play it. It cost me nothing to gain 8 mil SP, and as i continue to play...i will still not pay any money to CCP to enjoy Dust, unless i decide otherwise. CCP providing a means for you to decide on your own free will to purchase items that you can achieve in the long run (or quicker SP accrual) without spending money, does not give CCP an obligation to ANYONE playing Dust. I think you are having a hard time understanding the fact that paying to play dust is optional.
Duran Lex Silver Talon Corporation 27	Posted - 2013.06.30 10:54:00 - [13] - Quote Banning Hammer wrote: Duran Lex wrote: Dust 514 cost me absolutely nothing to play it. It cost me nothing to gain 8 mil SP, and as i continue to play...i will still not pay any money to CCP to enjoy Dust, unless i decide otherwise. CCP providing a means for you to decide on your own free will to purchase items that you can achieve in the long run (or quicker SP accrual) without spending money, does not give CCP an obligation to ANYONE playing Dust. I think you are having a hard time understanding the fact that paying to play dust is optional. And you don't understand, that a "GAME" that no one plays, is not much of a "GAME"... in the end of the day CCP is in the business of making games. A company that makes games for a living have an obligation to Gamers, free to play or not. I'm pretty sure theres 5-8k players on during peak hours. So the game isn't at the stage of "no one playing", and hasn't been since i started playing. CCP is indeed in the business of making games, and they met that obligation by providing you with the game to play. Anything else you feel obligated/entitled to is your own misguided prerogative.
Duran Lex Silver Talon Corporation 28	Posted - 2013.06.30 11:07:00 - [14] - Quote Banning Hammer wrote: Actually... almost every game in the market is Free to play online, after you buy the original copy of the game. Is only few subscription games left, and most of them have change to the much more "profitable" F2P model. I don't think you really understand what Free To Play means... it is a marketing model. Do people realize the **** they are saying?
Duran Lex Silver Talon Corporation 28	Posted - 2013.06.30 11:15:00 - [15] - Quote xAckie wrote: Duran Lex wrote: Dust 514 cost me absolutely nothing to play it. It cost me nothing to gain 8 mil SP, and as i continue to play...i will still not pay any money to CCP to enjoy Dust, unless i decide otherwise. CCP providing a means for you to decide on your own free will to purchase items that you can achieve in the long run (or quicker SP accrual) without spending money, does not give CCP an obligation to ANYONE playing Dust. I think you are having a hard time understanding the fact that paying to play dust is optional. Last post on this. Your first statement is factually wrong. You fail to understand there is no such thing as free. You paid for your equipment, your Internet and your time. Google search free and economics I would like to see CCP come out and say to paying customers we don't owe you anything. I never said to you that paying to play dust wasn't optional. sigh i can't keep this up. if you honestly think there's any correlation between purchasing a PS3 and Dust requiring no purchase to download and play, i simply can't argue against mental retardation.