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Kane Fyea DUST University Ivy League 498	Posted - 2013.06.30 04:25:00 - [1] - Quote Delta 749 wrote: Dont expect this game to have any real sort of player base if it takes until next year to get this game halfway decent Yeah yeah "EVE took a long time to get where it is now" EVE was also essentially alone in the sci fi spaceship based MMORPG area, Dust has a lot of competition and has spent years in development and a good year actually having people play it and provide their feedback but somehow in one feel swoop they were able to undo all the good of chromosome and give us this broken build How about you wait until CCP actually starts marketing this game. CCP said they aren't going to spend a lot of money on marketing until next year.
Kane Fyea DUST University Ivy League 498	Posted - 2013.06.30 04:47:00 - [2] - Quote Raymondo316 wrote: Iron Wolf Saber wrote: At least the marketing budget is set aside and the ad campaign won't start until much later. Yes im sure tons & tons of people are gonna suddenly start playing By that point people will have 30-40 million skill points & it will be even harder for new players to compete CCP might as well save the money and spend it on actually trying to make the game ''playable'' Actually you complete your specialization by 12 mill. Also EVE does the same thing just fine.
Kane Fyea DUST University Ivy League 498	Posted - 2013.06.30 04:50:00 - [3] - Quote Delta 749 wrote: Kane Fyea wrote: Delta 749 wrote: Dont expect this game to have any real sort of player base if it takes until next year to get this game halfway decent Yeah yeah "EVE took a long time to get where it is now" EVE was also essentially alone in the sci fi spaceship based MMORPG area, Dust has a lot of competition and has spent years in development and a good year actually having people play it and provide their feedback but somehow in one feel swoop they were able to undo all the good of chromosome and give us this broken build How about you wait until CCP actually starts marketing this game. CCP said they aren't going to spend a lot of money on marketing until next year. Again next year is far to late, just look at falls upcoming competition, then consider what next years competition will be like, then realize that be the time Dust gets around to advertising those are completely polished games that had the same amount of development time or even less will have their own dedicated player bases running on next gen systems while this game slowly putters along If it helps you feel better I very much wont likely be around after summer so youll have one less person you have to pretend is crazy Wow Ps2. Yea that's some competition there /sarcasm. Destiny does look good but it wont give the same experience as dust does.
Kane Fyea DUST University Ivy League 501	Posted - 2013.06.30 05:48:00 - [4] - Quote Delta 749 wrote: Kane Fyea wrote: Delta 749 wrote: Kane Fyea wrote: Delta 749 wrote: Dont expect this game to have any real sort of player base if it takes until next year to get this game halfway decent Yeah yeah "EVE took a long time to get where it is now" EVE was also essentially alone in the sci fi spaceship based MMORPG area, Dust has a lot of competition and has spent years in development and a good year actually having people play it and provide their feedback but somehow in one feel swoop they were able to undo all the good of chromosome and give us this broken build How about you wait until CCP actually starts marketing this game. CCP said they aren't going to spend a lot of money on marketing until next year. Again next year is far to late, just look at falls upcoming competition, then consider what next years competition will be like, then realize that be the time Dust gets around to advertising those are completely polished games that had the same amount of development time or even less will have their own dedicated player bases running on next gen systems while this game slowly putters along If it helps you feel better I very much wont likely be around after summer so youll have one less person you have to pretend is crazy Wow Ps2. Yea that's some competition there /sarcasm. Destiny does look good but it wont give the same experience as dust does. Ah yes the Dust experience With its hit detection and aiming issues, terrible balance, missing the core suits to all races, tons of level geometry problems How will Destiny ever compete if it cant offer the Dust experience Good thing CCP said that those issues (Mainly aiming, hit detection, and balance) are now the priority. Those will have greatly improved and been added by the time Destiny comes out next year. Next.
Kane Fyea DUST University Ivy League 505	Posted - 2013.06.30 06:21:00 - [5] - Quote dday3six wrote: Kane Fyea wrote: Raymondo316 wrote: Iron Wolf Saber wrote: At least the marketing budget is set aside and the ad campaign won't start until much later. Yes im sure tons & tons of people are gonna suddenly start playing By that point people will have 30-40 million skill points & it will be even harder for new players to compete CCP might as well save the money and spend it on actually trying to make the game ''playable'' Actually you complete your specialization by 12 mill. Also EVE does the same thing just fine. Heavies, Tankers, Scouts, Logis all need upwards of 16-18 million to completely specialize. Kane Fyea wrote: Good thing CCP said that those issues (Mainly aiming, hit detection, and balance) are now the priority. Those will have greatly improved and been added by the time Destiny comes out next year. Next. CCP says a lot things, but saying and actually doing are two completely different things. I guarantee you since there is only 5k players at peak times that CCP are working their asses off.
Kane Fyea DUST University Ivy League 505	Posted - 2013.06.30 06:23:00 - [6] - Quote Delta 749 wrote: Show me where the things they promised last year are Kane and Ill have some faith in CCP You don't need to have faith. If they don't do it well then they don't. There's many times devs have to change their plans completely because of what their players are saying, bugs/glitches come up, deadlines and many other things. If you can't get that through your head then your hopeless.
Kane Fyea DUST University Ivy League 505	Posted - 2013.06.30 06:26:00 - [7] - Quote xAckie wrote: Delta 749 wrote: Iron Wolf Saber wrote: At least the marketing budget is set aside and the ad campaign won't start until much later. God I cant imagine how bad the backlash would be if they had heavily advertised this game IWS I am beginning to think you are a troll. This game has already been marketed. And promoted heavily by CCP. there are numerous interviews done by CCP ANC promotions over the past year. And gameplay time with journalists and at conventions.. What do you think marketing is? They promoted it and the game reviews came in. And what was the verdict of these game reviews?...... They haven't showed a single tv ad, very little website ads, (The only time you see them is when you search for things eve or dust related on google) and many other advertisements. Also don't say the PS store advertised it either because any new game gets put up on the front page for at least a week.
Kane Fyea DUST University Ivy League 505	Posted - 2013.06.30 06:30:00 - [8] - Quote dday3six wrote: Kane Fyea wrote: I guarantee you since there is only 5k players at peak times that CCP are working their asses off. Do you work for CCP? Do you set in on there department meeting? Maybe you hacked into their emails. No...No I don't think so. Fact is you can't guarantee anything of the sort. No but any dev with half a brain would see that 5k players is VERY lackluster (especially for a F2P game) and start picking up pace real quickly. Well that is unless they plan on shutting down dust soon which I don't see as a possibility yet.
Kane Fyea DUST University Ivy League 505	Posted - 2013.06.30 06:33:00 - [9] - Quote calisk galern wrote: I believe what most people are saying is THEY have no patience and THEY can't wait, please speak only for yourself >.> Seriously I've been waiting for a year and am still looking forward to the next year. It takes a lot of time to develop a game especially on one of the hardest machines to develop on thanks to the ps3's many bottlenecks and CELL architecture.
Kane Fyea DUST University Ivy League 506	Posted - 2013.06.30 06:43:00 - [10] - Quote McFurious wrote: I can't wait for PS4 and all the new games to come out. Then the trolls will have something else to do besides post the same ** here over and over again. Of course, they'll get bored with PS2's massive clusterfuck battles, BF4's restrictive classes, and Destiny's "borderlandsness" and come right back to Dust. Hopefully they'll have less to *** about by then. I'll probably play Destiny quite a bit simply because I love borderlands. That is of course if it isn't over hyped like plenty of other games are. It will never replace Dust though.

Kane Fyea DUST University Ivy League 511	Posted - 2013.06.30 06:59:00 - [11] - Quote xAckie wrote: Kane Fyea wrote: xAckie wrote: Delta 749 wrote: Iron Wolf Saber wrote: At least the marketing budget is set aside and the ad campaign won't start until much later. God I cant imagine how bad the backlash would be if they had heavily advertised this game IWS I am beginning to think you are a troll. This game has already been marketed. And promoted heavily by CCP. there are numerous interviews done by CCP ANC promotions over the past year. And gameplay time with journalists and at conventions.. What do you think marketing is? They promoted it and the game reviews came in. And what was the verdict of these game reviews?...... They haven't showed a single tv ad, very little website ads, (The only time you see them is when you search for things eve or dust related on google) and many other advertisements. Also don't say the PS store advertised it either because any new game gets put up on the front page for at least a week. Tv ads? Don't make me laugh. If you were a gamer you would have had to have your head in the sand for the past year and a half not know about this game Well let's put it this way. The only reason why anyone knows about dust on my friends list is because I play it often. Even then most of them don't know about dust. Also most of my IRL friends don't know about dust even the ones in my college classes on GAME DESIGN (The only reason why a few know is because I told them about it)
Kane Fyea DUST University Ivy League 513	Posted - 2013.06.30 07:41:00 - [12] - Quote 5aEKUXeRJGJ27kCDnDVYak3 wrote: "1.2 is one of many, many patches" Yeah and Dust is one of many many free to play games and at its current stage (basic FPS game is broken and don't even deny it) it will be the last game people want to play, in the upcoming many many months with many many good games coming out, seriously. CCP was too slow. (How to fix this? I don't know, hire more people ASAP I guess which is what they are doing already. It's not even a problem of working manpower, it was a problem of the fundamental working environment / style / philosophy or how the management works in CCP attracting the wrong sort of people to do a "triple A e-sport MMORPGLOLFPS". No major gear shift will fix Dust or CCP, the problems go deeper than the throttle itself. One of my favorite MMOs was horrible at launch. But the devs saw that their game was pretty damn bad and in a year made the game on of my favorite MMOs to date. Also I suggest looking at eve when it was first released.
Kane Fyea DUST University Ivy League 513	Posted - 2013.06.30 07:57:00 - [13] - Quote 5aEKUXeRJGJ27kCDnDVYak3 wrote: Kane Fyea wrote: One of my favorite MMOs was horrible at launch. But the devs saw that their game was pretty damn bad and in a year made the game on of my favorite MMOs to date. Also I suggest looking at eve when it was first released. Which MMO are you referring to? And you can't compare Dust with EVE because, this is perhaps already explained before, but they are apples and oranges, one is a niche game with completely no competition in what it is offering (this soon will be challenged), another is a laughable FPS that ranks very low on the list of "should I play this free-to-play MMORPGFPS?", and now the answer is "this FPS is broken and content is missing and oh look (insert any other titles here) I'm gonna play that instead". The MMO I'm talking about is SWG. Look it up. It came around the same time as WoW. It just got shut down a couple years ago because there was a new star wars MMO coming out (Which is HORRIBLE)
Kane Fyea DUST University Ivy League 514	Posted - 2013.06.30 08:30:00 - [14] - Quote xAckie wrote: Duran Lex wrote: It doesn't matter. The fools playing this game will continue to complain. Games always have the people that will constantly complain about the game, even after getting everything they want. Dust just has people who are FAR worse and feel entitled to being pampered to win without having to use skill to do so. Once they release all the game features they said were in development, people will start complaining that the items aren't in their favourite colour. As as soon as the items are available in their favourite color, they will complain theres no black variant. After they release the black variant, they will complain theres no white variant. CCP simply can't win with most of the crowd, because they feel like if they decided to play this game, either knowing or finding out its current state of development, while thinking they should be a Rock that is able to dominate Paper, Scissors, and other Rocks with ultimate ease, will continue to complain about every little thing that doesn't make their life happier by not winning at the game they are playing. I like to laugh on the inside at the ******* who complain all day long on the forums, yet sit there each week and hit their SP cap. Be an adult and have patience. If they admit / tell me that player trading/ link with eve/ null/ mmo will be delivered in 2017 then I will come back then and see if they have improved the gameplay. I hope sooner than that. I am here trying to find out when the game CCP is advertising/ talks about delivering is actually supposed to turn up. Not this 90s lobby shooter But they won't tell us. It's because they don't even know when the economies will be linked. They have to make sure they don't break the economies when they become linked. I don't think P2P trading is too far off though.
Kane Fyea DUST University Ivy League 514	Posted - 2013.06.30 09:14:00 - [15] - Quote Banning Hammer wrote: Duran Lex wrote: Everything they have publicly promoted is correct. Your false interpretation of it doesn't make it incorrect. They never stated the trading between both games was implemented, PC makes it an MMO by definition, the game IS linked with currently linked with EVE, hence the star systems that are in both games, and they are improving the gameplay with each patch. So...what exactly are YOU talking about? Edit - This is a free to play game, people deciding to spend money on it is of their own free will, and CCP owes them nothing for it. The argument that people payed money on a free to play game has absolutely no merit. Again with the "Free" game ...You may have free access to the game, but is not free. You need: - PS3 - Internet Connection - TV As a Sony exclusive they using the game to sell PS3's to EvE fans, and PC users. Also soon Vita's with the Dust 514 App. If you want to call Dust 514 truly FREE, it should be in the PC without exclusivity rights. But then console guys have to buy a PC if they don't have one which is more expensive. (If you want a halfway decent one that is) It would still require an internet connection and a monitor. No F2P game is truly free when you look at it like that. Especially the P2W ones.
Kane Fyea DUST University Ivy League 514	Posted - 2013.06.30 09:18:00 - [16] - Quote xAckie wrote: Duran Lex wrote: xAckie wrote: Duran Lex wrote: xAckie wrote: If they admit / tell me that player trading/ link with eve/ null/ mmo will be delivered in 2017 then I will come back then and see if they have improved the gameplay. I hope sooner than that. I am here trying to find out when the game CCP is advertising/ talks about delivering is actually supposed to turn up. Not this 90s lobby shooter But they won't tell us. Did Microsoft tell you in 1990 that they would release windows 95? Did sony say they were gonna create the ps3 a year after the ps2 was released? Did Blizzard tell you they were gonna make Warcraft 3 a few months after warcraft 2 came out? No. They didn't tell you anything until they felt it was the right time. CCP isn't psychic. They can't tell the future. They can only continue to work on the game they are developing. If you can't handle their schedule, i suggest you change yours. What are you talking about? I am stating what CCP are publicly promoting as the game we are playing . A game that people are paying money for. If they want to promote that game (and not the one we have) they should tell us when they expect it to turn up. Everything they have publicly promoted is correct. Your false interpretation of it doesn't make it incorrect. They never stated the trading between both games was implemented, PC makes it an MMO by definition, the game IS linked with currently linked with EVE, hence the star systems that are in both games, and they are improving the gameplay with each patch. So...what exactly are YOU talking about? Edit - This is a free to play game, people deciding to spend money on it is of their own free will, and CCP owes them nothing for it. The argument that people payed money on a free to play game is moot point. It's not an mmo It's link with eve is tenuous at most And having been here since replication CCP promoted trading and a full eve link with soon. They have promoted this vision publicly to journalists and at game conferences. What I am asking for is when? They must a have timeline internally. You need to do some economics/ business 101. FTP does not mean this is a free game. And any business saying they don't owe their customers anything will fold very quickly. CCP doesnt even know when the economy will be linked. If they implement it too soon it could breakboth EVE and Dust's economies (It would hurt Dust more then EVE though). P2P trading is probably not far off though. It will take time though. Just be patient like I have for the past year. If you can't deal with that then leave until they implement it.