My guess? not an AR.

Aw, come on! Don't you remember those squat thrust reload drills? And who could forget the running around in tiny circles gun range.

Feeling bored and want to annoy some fanboys so lets talk about this

Now I see the whole "I like this cause its tactical and you need to think" idea tossed around fairly often but it just does not match up with the game
Bunny hopping, spraying fire wildly, massive health bars, and the whole LAV thing are all anathema to a true tactical experience
This is not the thinking mans shooter some fanboys like to tout it as but a throwback to the arena shooters of old only less polished

Now lets take the Rainbow Six games pre Vegas
Slow paced, needing to look, listen, check every corner, stick to cover for even in heavy armor a few shots is more than enough to put you down, something that truly was tactical since one mistake would cost you dearly


Now to you guys in the playerbase that do support this as a tactical game I want to know a reason why that isnt related to fittings since thats a fairly weak argument, and to everyone else what were some truly tactical games you enjoyed and wish CCP would take some examples from on how to improve this game

Only time when you need cover is when your shields are down , I seen plenty of people play this game like COD( with prototype gear usually) and get lots of kills. Doesn't acquire much thought ; get a good fit , pray that your team doesn't suck, cap points and kill any that tries to recap it , or just kill people.

Game plays like any other shooter the only things that makes it different from the rest is that the shooting sucks and you have to buy stuff so you don't run out.

Twitch Shooter you have a half second to live most of the time it takes about 3 seconds to down most folks in this game.

Yes and 2 of those 3 seconds are trying to keep your aim on target with the sloppy controls.

Dust is not strategic it's just ,slow and cumbersome with a bit of frustration thrown in just to drag it down further.

I agree, Dust really isn't all that tactical.

You get that huge EHP to work with, you can make a mistake, engage in a fight that you shouldn't of, get outnumbered, whatever, in most cases you can turn around and run away and you have plenty of time to react thanks to the TTK (time to kill) in this game; especially now that weapons have been nerfed so many times. Sure you can use tactics, but that goes for ANY shooter game.

I don't see a whole lot tactical about the gameplay that I usually see in Dust, nor do I see it really necessary in average matches. In LOU, unless playing against complete scrubs I still feel it's necessary to crouch walk a lot, check corners, proceed carefully, and pick my fights wisely. I hardly had that feeling in Dust, only in very few pubs that were high competition and corp battles against top corps.

I was always able to run and gun and play stupidly and consistently do well in Dust... That is rarely the case in a tactical shooter unless the enemy is literally brand new to shooters.

Also, how often to you ADS in Dust?

In a tactical shooter, you are not going to do very well unless you ADS.

Also, how often to you ADS in Dust?

In a tactical shooter, you are not going to do very well unless you ADS.

I ADSed a lot in Dust actually, but I know it wasn't really necessary a lot of the time. It annoyed me greatly because I knew that hipfiring was usually more effective than ADS unless at a decent range. There would be moments where I'd go and hipfire and be surprised at how good it was, and it would annoy me at the same time. I found the same true for MAG as well at times.

I can understand hipfire being better than ADS when they're within shotgun range, but further and it's just stupid IMHO.

Hope all is well with you James.

Oh yeah all is good, aside from work soaking up too much time and wanting to game more than I do xD. Hope teamplayers is working out well for you, good to see you getting in some good matches. GJ vs IMPs.

I guess it is tactical if you play tactically, if your roll with your bros and cover each other etc... those that don't do something similar will break against you easily hence such one sided matches. However when like minded people face your group those matches are the exciting strategic close matches.

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If that was the case, call of duty is a tactical shooter."I can go from cover to cover with ma bros dude, we are tactical dude!"

Socom is a tactical shooter

Feeling bored and want to annoy some fanboys so lets talk about this

Now I see the whole "I like this cause its tactical and you need to think" idea tossed around fairly often but it just does not match up with the game
Bunny hopping, spraying fire wildly, massive health bars, and the whole LAV thing are all anathema to a true tactical experience
This is not the thinking mans shooter some fanboys like to tout it as but a throwback to the arena shooters of old only less polished

Now lets take the Rainbow Six games pre Vegas
Slow paced, needing to look, listen, check every corner, stick to cover for even in heavy armor a few shots is more than enough to put you down, something that truly was tactical since one mistake would cost you dearly


Now to you guys in the playerbase that do support this as a tactical game I want to know a reason why that isnt related to fittings since thats a fairly weak argument, and to everyone else what were some truly tactical games you enjoyed and wish CCP would take some examples from on how to improve this game

there are less tactics in Dust then in CoD or halo which are the prominent twitch based FPSes out there.

Lost all credibility.

Says the guy in the corp bunny hopping in a mob until they spent themselves on Sver in PC....

Maybe IMPs think that is a tactic?

Who knows.....

If that was the case, call of duty is a tactical shooter."I can go from cover to cover with ma bros dude, we are tactical dude!"

Socom is a tactical shooter

That's not even a come back - if you're not bunny hoping at one point in a tough gun fight as an assault you just plain suck. Shows how good you are really.

You already lost all credibility in several threads - why do you even post? You're just a fool around here.

So you agree with me that Dust, where you have to bunny hop to win, is not tactical, and it is designed that way. Or what you think bunny hopping is not a twitch mechanic?

I think you are just pissed because i have dissed on your favorite corp. Get over it. It is not as if IMPS have not been asking for it for at least the two months i have been here.

The piles of smack coming from then literally take up 30% of the friggin forums. And it isn't even good trash talk...just endless banal drivel.