Today, I witnessed a pretty annoying exploit.

I was running AV, going after a redline sniper HAV. What simply happened was that every time the HAV was on fire and I was close to destroying it, it drove behind a little bit of cover, then was recalled by the owner before the next volley of swarms could hit it. After that, the owner just ran further back into the redline, and called it in again, fully repaired.

There needs to be some measure to prevent the vehicle recall to be used this way.
Since I know RDVs will eventually pick them up, there should be a 15 second delay before the vehicle actually vanishes; or you shouldn't be able to recall it when it's on fire.

Today, I witnessed a pretty annoying exploit.

I was running AV, going after a redline sniper HAV. What simply happened was that every time the HAV was on fire and I was close to destroying it, it drove behind a little bit of cover, then was recalled by the owner before the next volley of swarms could hit it. After that, the owner just ran further back into the redline, and called it in again, fully repaired.

There needs to be some measure to prevent the vehicle recall to be used this way.
Since I know RDVs will eventually pick them up, there should be a 15 second delay before the vehicle actually vanishes; or you shouldn't be able to recall it when it's on fire.

Have an RDV actually come to pick up the vehicle when you do a recall.

Problem solved.

Like others have said, you can't recall a vehicle when it's on fire.

Sliver of armor left isn't the same as on fire.

What about a timer on being able to call in a new vehicle after a recall. Maybe one or two minutes?

Suicide into the redline! My sniper tank should be invincible!

Or stop wasting your time, redline sniper can just back behind the same rock and rep back up.

For what its worth though recall mechanic is stupid, I've been in slugging matches with other tanks and had them back behind a box and disappear, personally i think the recall mechanic should only work in the redline, so that ppl have to get back there before swapping tanks or pussing out.

Actually, I used an LAV to close the distance, douche; and they recalled when I was out of AV grenades and reloading my swarm

There's a timer already, but yes, it should be longer

the recall system is abusive I admit, but its fair for us to be able to recall it because you as infantry and AV have over 50 ways to kill us off and we have barely anything to keep ourselves alive, the recall system is fair because we finally get something that works for us, granted I agree on the animation of the recall, and RDV should pick it up once its recalled but it should take any damage since its being removed from the match, when its getting put into the match and into play yes it should take damage as its being called in but when its being recalled and removed from the match where it does nothing for either side then it should take no damage once it been recalled.

Supposed imbalance isn't an excuse for leaving an exploit as it is.

Maybe you should skill up for the forge gun.

Oh wait, that requires aim...

you as infantry and av call it an exploit, vehicle drivers call it our hope, its the only thing that we have that gives is actual ground when fighting against you

That's like saying that if I found an exploit to OHK LLAVs through a wall, it would be ok because it's the best chance against them

There's a timer already, but yes, it should be longer

I'd say increase the hack time. And the wait to call in a new tank after a recall is a little pointless. All one has to do is call in the new vehicle before initiating the recall. As long as the team isn't capped out on vehicles, you'll normally get the new one by the time the old one turns invisible.

Maybe if while initiating the recall it locked anyone out so a blueberry couldn't drive off with it, but then make the recall hacking bit last a solid minute, or comparable to counter hacking an objective.

Deal with it red line tanks get hardly any kills as is, let them waste their time. but don't make the recall any longer or have any rdv come pick them up that just a waste of time. Plus I will shoot down every rdv that comes to pick them up. then what happens?

Maybe if while initiating the recall it locked anyone out so a blueberry couldn't drive off with it, but then make the recall hacking bit last a solid minute, or comparable to counter hacking an objective.

Today, I witnessed a pretty annoying exploit.

I was running AV, going after a redline sniper HAV. What simply happened was that every time the HAV was on fire and I was close to destroying it, it drove behind a little bit of cover, then was recalled by the owner before the next volley of swarms could hit it. After that, the owner just ran further back into the redline, and called it in again, fully repaired.

There needs to be some measure to prevent the vehicle recall to be used this way.
Since I know RDVs will eventually pick them up, there should be a 15 second delay before the vehicle actually vanishes; or you shouldn't be able to recall it when it's on fire.

The recall shouldn't have been an instant vanish, it should be the opposite of what happens when you call in a vehicle. A RDV gets called in, 15 seconds later it shows up, picks up the vehicle then fly's away. All the while being vulnerable to AV.

I agree, though the RDV and vehicle should be cloaked again while its being carried away, just like the RDV and vehicle are cloaked when they're being initially flown in.

I agree, though the RDV and vehicle should be cloaked again while its being carried away, just like the RDV and vehicle are cloaked when they're being initially flown in.

you guys have 100+ things that make battles go to your advantage while we have barely 2 things maybe speaking as of mechanics. the vehicle should not take damage once the rdv has gotten it. why are you guys always trying to make it harder for tank drivers to play this game? we are just starting to recover from our marauders being taken away and being replaced by expensive militia ones.


tell me this, what is your idea of how the vehicle should work in dust 514, and don't hold anything back, I want to know how far you want to nerf us from where we are at the moment.

What happened to 50-to-1? Was that 'statistic' not severe-sounding enough for you?

Now on to being levelheaded, this 'thing going your way' as you put it is a half-implemented feature, and we all know it. So why, when they add the pickup RDV, should the vehicle and RDV suddenly gain invulnerability? Wouldn't it make more sense for this magic invul-tech to always be on?

then while were at it, we should increase your vulnerability when your switching out your fittings at a supply depot. when your in the menu, your shield and armor energy are transferred over to the computer portion of your dropsuit in order to access the supply depot making you weaker.

oh I see, your crying when I bring something up about nerfing your classes huh?

all the changes that have happened to tanks are because of you assaulters and infantry, nothing tank drivers want ever get put into the game. then you cry "whaa I got nerfed I got nerfed" when one of your advantages is taken away from you, HOW THE **** DO YOU THINK WE FEEL.

Thats because tank drivers were a bunch of whiny little cunts that wanted to play god mode and couldnt handle dying to concentrated fire
Oddly enough I find a lot of vehicle players come from EVE, you would think they could harden the **** up but noooo thats to hard

Im infantry, I have to worry about other infantry, LAVs, HAVs, gun emplacements, and sometimes dropships but those are exceedingly rare
Anyway go through my post history and tell me how many bitchy crying posts you see me make demanding that everything that kills me should be nerfed

oh I see, your crying when I bring something up about nerfing your classes huh?

all the changes that have happened to tanks are because of you assaulters and infantry, nothing tank drivers want ever get put into the game. then you cry "whaa I got nerfed I got nerfed" when one of your advantages is taken away from you, HOW THE **** DO YOU THINK WE FEEL.

Today, I witnessed a pretty annoying exploit.

I was running AV, going after a redline sniper HAV. What simply happened was that every time the HAV was on fire and I was close to destroying it, it drove behind a little bit of cover, then was recalled by the owner before the next volley of swarms could hit it. After that, the owner just ran further back into the redline, and called it in again, fully repaired.

There needs to be some measure to prevent the vehicle recall to be used this way.
Since I know RDVs will eventually pick them up, there should be a 15 second delay before the vehicle actually vanishes; or you shouldn't be able to recall it when it's on fire.

Completely off topic, yesterday we were in a skirmish match on line harvest and you ran me off a roof top where I was forging from. Then I was attempting to shot your drop ship down and was having trouble due to annoying infantry. I swear I hit my second shot and saw you start to catch fire but I never got points and did not see it crash, did I take it down ?

I see that there is no reasoning with you infantry, all you want is COD 514, so whatever. and yes I do understand how mechanics work and you are trying to kill off a class type because you cant control us or overpower us as a whole.

I see tanks doing fine with AV after them all the time-

Perhaps you suck?
Wait a second... last build... weren't you that NF guy who brought his HAV out, drove it into a stupid place, lost it to a pair of railgun installations (all within the first few minutes), then AFKed in the MCC the rest of the battle? I know it was one of you, and I remember recognizing the name from the forums. You seem to fit the bill

Uhhhh. maybe? Only reason I was flying (I seriously never do) was because your team had uplinks all over the towers. Only reason I kept flying is because I had a blueberry who wouldn't GTFO.

I know I almost got shot down, recovered, then got shot down later. Funny thing is, the killfeed said I killed the dumbass blueberry gunner (who was trying to shoot you with a blaster from high altitude)

HTFU you whining brat.

If you have beef with a redline, that's legitimate and you should take it up with CCP.

If you don't and you think that people should just gallop out to die a beautiful death (because you're obviously firing swarms at the tank - you expect him to drive OUT of the redline?), then grab an LAV or hiking boots or something and take a dive in. I've had some great confrontations behind the redline by people who adjust tactically.

Unless you have a reliable team, it's incredibly disadvantageous for a long range tank to decrease the distance between it and it's targets, you blithe moron.

Carebear *****

Thats because tank drivers were a bunch of whiny little cunts that wanted to play god mode and couldnt handle dying to concentrated fire
Oddly enough I find a lot of vehicle players come from EVE, you would think they could harden the **** up but noooo thats to hard

Im infantry, I have to worry about other infantry, LAVs, HAVs, gun emplacements, and sometimes dropships but those are exceedingly rare
Anyway go through my post history and tell me how many bitchy crying posts you see me make demanding that everything that kills me should be nerfed

at a supply depot we have to stand perfectly still for a few moments before and after the swap.

And here;

We HAVE to stand still for a few moments to recall a vehicle, and only from one side of it (it seems so anyway).

And then you go on to say you want spawncloak after jumping into a new suit at a supply depot???