I always get mowed down by heavies with really high k/d ratios. I don't understand what people are talking about, other than when talking about range, which is anyway being changed for all weapons.

What are you even talking about bro? Have you even played as a heavy? Maybe you should take your insane 5 million SP and squad up with some real players. 6 pages deep in this terrible thread and the only logi mention is asinine whining about Cal Logi shield tanking?

I'm a Gallente logi dedicated to support. I roll around with a standard/adv heavy and we straight crush fools as a tandem. I have a core repair tool for my proto PC fit but the adv triage tool works fine too. Toss down some triage hives, maybe some ammo hives, and nobody is moving us from our position. In PC two heavies and two logis can pretty much hold down the entire city by themselves once entrenched. Shield tanked assaults with ARs? That's why I'm packing flux nades. I got my fatties' backs.

Point defense, bitches. Learn to play and take your GUN GAMEGäó to the next level.

I was curious to know what is the role of an HMG Heavy; target practice?

The support HMG Heavies provide for their teams is minimal. When running in squads, they are often at the rear due to their slow movement speed. This leaves Heavies incapable of playing a support role because of their already distant positions and lack of range. In addition, the bullet dispersion renders the HMG useless if fired outside of its optimal range. However, even within its optimal range, the HMG is often outplayed by the speed of a Shotgun Scout, or more often, a TAR user.

After testing different approaches and strategies to become a decent HMG Heavy, I have made little progress because the class just does not fit in with the type of long range combat that is prevalent in most matches. I often find myself as the center of attention for the opposing side's gunfire and any attempts to retreat or fire back are useless.

Due to frustration, I decided to run with just my Flaylock for a few matches. I did better in these games than I did with my Boundless or Freedom. To experiment further, I dropped my proto and went into a standard fitting with a basic Forge Gun. With eight kills, three LAVs destroyed, five Blaster Installation Turrets and one Clone Reanimation Unit shot down, I have never felt so useful in my entire career of playing a Heavy.

So, my question still stands: what is the role of an HMG Heavy?

I wish you were my logi as a heavy but still a defender should out range the attackers or else the defense is comprimised

i am willing ready and capable of proving my point. the weapon is inferior. period. the suit is weak period.

When?

r u a navy seal?

I'd rather see you on the other side so I can shove my HMG down your throat to really prove the point. FW, my corp vs yours, I'll be back playing on Wednesday.

OP
Camp the objective and hold it down.
Replenishing armor hives

i played you guys and owned you already. anyway you know my corp. its listed here. you really wanna play me? add me as contact. i aint hiding. anyone can play with my squad or ill join your squad and you'll see exactly what im talking about. enough talk show and prove or keep it to yourself.

The squads you have run with obviously suck or weren't playing a mindful, tactical game.

Decent Logi support is nice and makes you a lot more effective.

Work on maneuver and range control.

Heavies definitely have a role.

You must be horrible at HMG if you get killed by shotgun and smg.

If you're referring to earlier tonight when you went against a few of my corp (3) in a public skirmish, the one where you finished 4-3 in 12-13th on your team? 2 of which were from running people over with your ishukone watch saga (I watch the killfeed to know what my enemy is using). I was actually one of those three on my Alt, I finished 10-4 4 or 5th. The Heavy Mr TEA Bag finished 18-4 1st on our team.

You may have won the match but it wasn't from your input, your team carried you to a win. Hell you never even killed me, if you remember that orbital that got you in your truck near the CRU....That was me

If you wanted to be an assault type guy, rushing between objective and objective, you need to become friends with your LAV.

As far as the rest, heavy tracking speed needs some help. Each type of gun has a purpose, and if you don't have varying fits for each situation, you're gonna have a bad time.

Bust the assault out for standoff engagements. Bust out a regular for all-purpose. Bust out a burst for CQC and limited-time span engagements(popping out of cover to hammer a specific spot).

Finally, HMG's damage and range needs to be re-evaluated though. I run complex damage mods wherever possible, and HMG proficency 4, and I feel there are times when i'm finishing a 1v1 fight just in the nick of time - especially at medium-range engagements(even when using an Assault HMG). It could just be hit detection, but there are plenty of times when even at close range I get out-damaged by a regular AR(like, legit BPO version). Furthermore, I feel like you HAVE to run damage mods on an HMG to make it viable, which consumes our high slots and generally makes for very rigid fitting selections, where only the lows and grenades change.

Uh.. I forgot where I was going with this.. I blame the dayquil..

I bet there are HMG users who would say the same thing, in reverse, whats the point of a scout, they just run off into the distance and get mowed down by a guy with a HMG,
I was curious to know what is the role of a Scout Light; target practice?

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I didnt when i used the basic HMG, I found it did a pretty good job for what it is designed for

nova knives, ohhh man they own so hard at CQC, jumping all over the place like a wacked out raver oh way too much xtc and redbull, the proto nova knives will slaughter any squad of smg or shotty fan bois 10 times over at CQC before they even manage to pull the trigger cause the god like devs coded in a special lag monster to screw with your ping rate while being cut up with these fully sic trippy psycho stabbers, bleed out bro, yeah i own that crap

no i was refering to last week when i got an obital by myself verse you guys, while i was using a std heavy suit and std hmg and you guys were running proto gear, and duvoles.

plus, i don't even remember playing you guys because every team i played last niht sucked. i thought you guys were better than that. i was in a squad of 2, myself included.

finally, 3-4kills, with over 22 assists bro. and i got over 1200 WP just by taking your ****. thats way you lost, we weren't playing ambush bro, it was skirmish about the null canons, you know the things with the letters over them.

btw, my only 2 deaths were from getting ran over, and your orbital. if it takes you an obrital to take out 1 'dren' assault suit. you need some help

My only agenda in this argument is to get through your thick head that heavies do indeed have a role and an intelligent and skilled player can perform that job damn well.

An HMG heavy teamed with a SCR assault is a pretty fantastic combo for both parties. HMG weakens people enough for one charged body shot to finish them. Meanwhile, the charged body shot destroys shields and leaves the HMG to eat people up. So there is just a fantastic exchange of assists.

Its also great to take out other HMG heavies with this combo. "Oh look two fat guys standing next to eachother pointing HMGs, HOLY CRAP WHAT HAPPENED TO THAT GUYS SHIELDS! HOLY CRAP NOW HIS ARMOR MELTED!"

ok
how did this turn into some epeen bullshyte?

i mean, sob and legendary's banter from the start aside, this got stupid