That's what Sentinels are for, hence the name.

Heavies will have many specializations, such as the Commando which is basically a Heavy version of the Assault suit.

The HMG was never meant to be used as an offensive weapon, at least not for quick assaults, it is meant for long sieges when employed in an offensive roll.

It was designed to be used as a defensive weapon though. Used to repel enemies trying to capture objectives and keep key map positions under your teams control.

I will agree that it needs a buff, though, it should be in the above stated manners, not a run n' gun class.

How are CCP wrong if this is their game and they decide what role to give to something?
Even if it isn't balanced right, CCP wants this weapon to work for point defense, whether you like it or not .

Heavies are a specialized role that requires support from their team in anything other than CQC.

If you think otherwise, you're running on COD syndrome. Stop doing this and think of the suits in squad tactics.

This is not a ramboing game. Stop acting like it is.

exactly, which is why i recommended that all other stats stay reltively the same.

even if the HMG had the same range as an AR the heavy suit wouldnt be able to advance fast enough to keep you within that range.


HMG is not point defense, nor is it really for offense. its a versitle weapon within the boundries of supression

i have my best sucess when using it like this although as stated earlier it needs a serious buff.

using it as supression, i can defend a point if need be, or if with my team taking an objective, i can supress enemies advancing on them. supression protects your team/squad, it defends, access points, hallways, it prevents enemies from crossing open areas, it puts ARs under pressure.

the idea is suppresion, putting large amounts of ammo in the air against enemies to stop their advance, or help your team advance/reposition. supression can be offensive or defensive depending on your teams location and objectives. but for supression to work you need to do hgh damage.


yet the slow mobility makes it difficult to attack with (therefore, it can not be used on offense even if all my suggestions were implimented).


if you think of a heavy as the infantry size version of a tank things will become clearer. tanks are great infantry supression weapons, and can help advance the frontline, BUT if a tank heads too far out infront of the squad it could easily be destroyed by AV, tanks move slow (not so slow that it can't move however), and are generally everyones target. tanks have resistances to damage.
tanks live longer when with a squad.






(of course tanks ca be used to over run positions but heavies can't and arent meant to do that. this is the biggest difference between a tank and a heavy.)

Go assault then.
You can't have the best of both worlds, your suit is a specialized suit meaning its supposed to do one thing best but the rest it wouldn't be as effective.
Its like expecting a scout to be able to go head on against enemies and expect to survive.

Now, for my second point, who the **** are you to dictate to CCP what the heavy suit is?
They can tomorrow give it scout HP and give the HMG over 9000 damage per bullet.
Its their choice, not yours.

Now, about the rest of your post, your balance idea makes heavies the best defense/offense/everything.
You have no idea on how to balance.

every assaulters description of what they think heavies are for is the description of instillations

I JUST PUT PROTO BLASTERS ON MY LOGI-LAV FEAR MY MURDER TAXI! PEW PEW.


/needs a life

but assaults and logis in fact have the best of both worlds...lol and i didnt even say i wanted the best of both, i just want to be efficeint at what im supposed to do.


think of it, assaults, and logi's can get absurdly high ehp, at the proto level achieving the same or more than a heavy while having zero, or limited speed reduction to mobility. theier turn speed is godly, and the accuracy on the AR (because 75%+ kills are all some form of AR) even with no SP in it, is godly, inadition to the high dps, absurd range, great hip fire, you can do everything with an AR, except AV, but ive been in situations where a squad of 6 with militia ARs blow up a tank just by shooting it...lol from full hp!

on top of that a fully charged scrambler rifle can one shoot most suits with only militia damage mods, (the over heating balances this out, but you get the point).

you can do point defense, offense, objectives, basically everything better with a logistics and assault suit than you can with a heavy suit. so, really dnt know what your talking about telling me that im trying to make the heavy good at everything, when your assault suit is with an AR is superior to basically every ofther infantry weapon in the game.


your idea of balance is pbvious because your solution to everything is go assault, is this AR 514? STFU, your idea of balance is:
assault suit + AR > everything else.

I can get 10102HP from a heavy suit without a single module to increase HP.. Show me an Assault or logi suit that can do that.

Caldari logi you say? Nope not really... Base HP is 180Shield 90 Armor (maybe 80, not in game now). So let's see with passive gains that's 225shield Max without modules, 112 Armor without modules. Now considering Caldari logi racial bonus you're getting about 90HP from a complex shield extender so that's about 680 shield with all 5 highs filled with extenders. Now let's pretend someone's actually silly enough to put more than one armor plate on this already slow suit...Two enhanced plate's would bring you to 388 armor with a 10% movement speed penalty and now you've just barely surpassed my Heavys HP without HP increasing modules In a fit that would arguably be absolutely terrible in most situations with an AR. Also you claim an Assault suit can rival the HP of a Heavy..really? Have you ever fit ANY assault suit?

The true worth of the heavy is to give CCP laughs since they obviously don't take the suit and HMG seriously. The other use of heavy is to let us players know that we made the huge mistake of putting our SP in the heavy and HMG when we should have clearly put all our SP in a medium suit with AR.

i dnt care what your K/D is in pub matches. my 5.6 millioin SP into heavy suits, and HMGs says other wise.

also the links are in the post.

I JUST PUT PROTO BLASTERS ON MY LOGI-LAV FEAR MY MURDER TAXI! PEW PEW.


/needs a life

I have half your total SP into HMG skills alone, maybe that's your problem. The other 8 mill into suit's, modules and Forge guns.

Really? 1.5 mill for all pertinent AR Skills eh? So proficiency isn't important? Maxing proficiency is 1.5 mill SP alone... And of course reducing bullet dispersion through sharpshooter is completely useless...If anything the argument could be made that getting your AR to PC competitive levels requires more SP.

If you're dying to Dragonfly assaults with Militia ARs the problem is you, not the game.

In short, Cry Moar

to even a get a HMG you need to put 1million SP into weapnry lvl 5 so dont give me that bullshit. you dnt need to max damage on ARs, when you already got the blanket 10% and out range everthing else. the only buff to damage you may need is through damage mods, to beat other ARs because those are your only challenge.

I know people that can get their ******* dragon fly assualts to have 500ehp, and run around with militia Ars that chread. or exile assault rifles.

in short you dnt know what the f*** your talking about.

Another Heavy SOB since you like talking **** the invitation is open to you too. you can squad up with me anytime i'm on and i can prove to you i am not lying, and that i am indeed a good player.

just add me as contact, unless of course you just like to talk **** on forums.

yeah, u look silly getting all riled up and PO'd. even more so threatening to put ure hmg down his throat.

ill effin go toe-to-toe with all of ya with my militia fit and i guaranDAMNtee you'll know who ure facing

see, i can do it too. am i cool now?