Swarms and forge guns. No, seriously, that's it. It's easy to lose a squad if you happen to start catching hell on the way to the objective. I've forced people into flying into buildings with well-timed swarms. Most prefer to just shuttle themselves in cars, anyway. Faster.

honestly the QQ over derpships is a little over the top. in the hands of a GOOD pilot the dropship is extremely effective.

problem is most pilots don't even have their licenses (myself included). I have issues finding the gas pedal much less the steering wheel ;-)

seriously tho dropships in the right hands are very useful. in the wrong hands it makes me feel like im playing duck hunt with my forge.. good times

seriously tho dropships in the right hands are very useful. in the wrong hands it makes me feel like im playing duck hunt with my forge.. good times

and as a forger I can say in all confidence a good pilot is tough to take down. Sure I can make them ineffective for the most part and make them fly out of range, but they can be useful is all im sayin

The dropship is a solution looking for a problem.

Right now there is nothing it can do that can't be done better and cheaper in some other way with the sole execption of an inital DU placement in high places.

Add in the fact that to do much of anything the dropship must fly low and slow where it is easy fodder for railguns and FGs and you realize why they are a total non-factor.

It's a great concept, but it just doesn't have a place in the game. It feels like it was included merely so the trailers could have something in the sky for visual interest.

There is a huge amount of effort needed to reverse all that. It needs viable missions. It needs rewards for those missions. It needs balancing against AV. Given all the other work CCP has on its plate don't expect all that in less than a year or two. You could even consider making dropships releveant as an expansion given the level of work required and the fact that it really isn't a part of the current game.

1 suggestion... dropships aren't meant to fight forgers...


basing your opinion on pubs is moot... pubs everyone focuses on vehicles whenever they see them, giving up on objectives or even trying to win.

I prefer to do both ;)

and as a forger I can say in all confidence a good pilot is tough to take down. Sure I can make them ineffective for the most part and make them fly out of range, but they can be useful is all im sayin

1 suggestion... dropships aren't meant to fight forgers...


basing your opinion on pubs is moot... pubs everyone focuses on vehicles whenever they see them, giving up on objectives or even trying to win.

I prefer to do both ;)

and as a forger I can say in all confidence a good pilot is tough to take down. Sure I can make them ineffective for the most part and make them fly out of range, but they can be useful is all im sayin

and as a forger I can say in all confidence a good pilot is tough to take down. Sure I can make them ineffective for the most part and make them fly out of range, but they can be useful is all im sayin

Solution? Implement an AA-HAV.

Hi there! From personal experience, 1 forge gunner is enough to take down most dropships. What happen to team work? I think AV grenades should receive a nerf as well to promote teamwork. Drop ships promote teamwork and you have that 1 little glowing dot in the tower destroying you with 1-2 shoots . Also I agree with Dust Fiend as well.

P.s. I love you team players

honestly the QQ over derpships is a little over the top. in the hands of a GOOD pilot the dropship is extremely effective.

problem is most pilots don't even have their licenses (myself included). I have issues finding the gas pedal much less the steering wheel ;-)

seriously tho dropships in the right hands are very useful. in the wrong hands it makes me feel like im playing duck hunt with my forge.. good times

There is no real reason to QQ over the drop ships. They serve three different purposes. Troop movement, vehicle healing, and light attack for pesky high ground seekers. If people simply used them as intended there would be no problem. But everyone seems to think that they are the apaches of this game.... They are the Huey's of this game. Everyone complaining about them is trying to make an essential minivan act like a porche

Another big aspect is that Drop ships receive shock from weapons fire whereas LAV s do not. A drop ship hit by a Rail or Forge will jolt dangerously off course whereas an LAV will not receive any recourse for damage received. Something I feel needs to be fixed.

troop movement, not viable if ANY AV is up
vehicle healing, you have to be nuts to even try it, its still horrible
high ground seeker, normally have a forge so not viable


LAVs do to they just have an easier time correcting from that.

You'd think a Forge Gun/Railgun hit would send them barrel rolling with how easy it is to flip them on rough terrain. Hell.... Might make the murder taxis dissipate a bit if it did...

ok im just gonna leave this thread. It has become apparent that most here have no notion of competitive gameplay which is the entire perspective from which im speaking.

do dropships need love? absolutely. are they completely useless? absolutely NOT.

we are finding more and more uses for them all the time, working within the current limits of their hull made of flammable confetti. but yes you need someone that has received their piloting certification for them to be worthwhile. and for those that don't believe me, just post your location on the PC map and we'll see what we can do about scheduling a demonstration

do dropships need love? absolutely. are they completely useless? absolutely NOT.

How are these pilots avoiding railgun fire?

No WP for transport roles, no matter how useful you are

by the time the RDV arrives (usually around 1.5 - 2 minutes) the blues have already ran to the furthest point. it's also very hard to talk rungungame kids into it. air assaults/drops/extracts are just not fun for them.

we are finding more and more uses for them all the time, working within the current limits of their hull made of flammable confetti. but yes you need someone that has received their piloting certification for them to be worthwhile. and for those that don't believe me, just post your location on the PC map and we'll see what we can do about scheduling a demonstration

I miss the old days of having a squad on board. Yelling over the comms to say things like
Drop drop drop
Three foot mobiles gunners on cas
Splash that forge gunner.
Good splash
Pick up at alpha going to charlie.
Gunners only going dog fighting.
Window in the window nail that heavy!(biomass map)


But ccp nerfed me to oblivion.

take out the railguns....

There is no real reason to QQ over the drop ships. They serve three different purposes. Troop movement, vehicle healing, and light attack for pesky high ground seekers. If people simply used them as intended there would be no problem. But everyone seems to think that they are the apaches of this game.... They are the Huey's of this game. Everyone complaining about them is trying to make an essential minivan act like a porche

I've wanted to set up a corp battle for so long where everyone just uses dropships. It doesn't matter if all you have is a militia ship with militia mods, or you're crazy and want to go full on "proto" assault. Watching that many dropships flying around crashing into each other with gunners firing at things would be highly amusing.

I know you can do cool stuff with dropships, primarily the ADS since their handling was left primarily intact moving over to Uprising, along with the added benefit of that increased flight ceiling. That's the true beauty of the ADS, quite frankly.

I suppose for a corp like yours, the issues with cost are essentially a non factor, so losing those expensive platforms is a lot less painful to you overall.

Hot drops (fly by or stationary from a height) are excellent if you can time them correctly, I was extremely proficient with those right before Uprising, then they added the drift and it really increased the distance that you throw people; the trajectory is very fidgety. You also need to make sure everyone can hear you who's in the ship, which becomes kind of a nightmare in PC even when your chat channels are set up pretty well.

It's a little more tricky with the comms because you need to always be calling out information, so you've got to be talking to your squad leaders, but you also need to communicate to your gunners, and it's hard to do a countdown for the whole ship to "drop" when only your squad leaders or gunners can hear you. (again, a corp like yours suffers a little less from having members die, so you can be primarily squad based, and the ship doesn't have to help the rest of the team as much; but **** happens)

Proto Cycled turrets are the boss on dropships. Afterburners on a shield DS with make you immune to swarms while mobile, and safer from forge guns; breach FG will still make you cry, and so will my kamikaze Gorgon.

The primary issue with dropships in relation to its ease to kill is

A:) Cost
B:) Rewards (primarily WP and SP)

Both of which are overcome in a corporation like yours, because, let's face it, you've got some kick ass players. Don't you still have the highest total SP of anyone in the game? And Calamity Jane II was in our squad the other day, kicking ass with a shotgun logi

spot on.. well said

yea i probably have more SP than anyone, but ZERO into vehicles, yes they are not cheap, and i advise my pilots and drives to use discretion in pubs, but they are taken care of for PC, even if it comes out of my personal wallet. yea annie and jane are freaks of nature. you could literally give them an avocado and a paperclip and they would MacGyver up something to go 20/2 in a match... they take their craft seriously while still having fun, as do most my guys

ok im just gonna leave this thread. It has become apparent that most here have no notion of competitive gameplay which is the entire perspective from which im speaking.

do dropships need love? absolutely. are they completely useless? absolutely NOT.

we are finding more and more uses for them all the time, working within the current limits of their hull made of flammable confetti. but yes you need someone that has received their piloting certification for them to be worthwhile. and for those that don't believe me, just post your location on the PC map and we'll see what we can do about scheduling a demonstration

Also please for the love of god put pilots and passengers in the same chat channel automatically.

I was actually thinking this exact same thing.

If someone enters your ship, it automatically unmutes them if they're muted / unmutes you if they have you muted, or simply puts them in your chat channel. Once they exit, it reverts to whatever it was before they entered. This would be a godsend for PC pilots.

I just want to trash talk enemies as I t-bag them, is that really so much to ask for?