Balancing


Basic problems

Militia AV - It's too good, alot of players do use them against basic vehicles, you want players to try them out sure but you also want players to specialize into AV if they like it. Reduce militia AV by 50% damage

Militia Vehicles - The LAV is generally too good now since the HP buff, even the HAV got a HP buff which wasn't needed, so remove the buff to militia vehicles, dropship stays the same. This would generally stop militia LAV as murder taxis since they would be more like paper so easier to take out

AV nades - Many assault/logis use this as their main source of AV because they are skilled mostly into their primary and dropsuit/mods, problem is they are very good for knocking out a HAV on its own, the nades should be more of a deterrent and not as a standalone AV weapon to be put next to the SL/FG/PL, it should be used with the AV weapons. I would reduce the damage by 25-50%, also it would help if we could see how much damage they do to begin with

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AV & vehicle payouts - If you specialize into these roles expect no isk even if you kill 4 enforcers in a game totalling 6mil ISK, you will be lucky to get 300k. You cannot make a profit unless you don't die for several games unless you want to run militia suits because all your SP is into vehicles. In general we need bigger payouts to make us feel more useful and also to reward those who go into the roles to begin with, I suggest that anyone who kills anything gets 50% more ISK and anyone who assists gets 25%

Example - AV/vehicle guy kills a 1mil ISK HAV, he gets 500k as a reward for killing that HAV, the guy who got an assist for also helping killing that HAV gets 250k

This is another issue that we can agree and disagree at the same time however, realize that CCP wants everyone on a balanced pay. You can't have someone getting say...18 kills and have only 200k isk compared to someone destroying 2 enforcers, made 3 kills(including the HAVs) and have 750k isk in their pockets that basicly just putting focus on AV tactics and not focusing on Infantry. Another thing to point out people who losses their enforcers or any expensive vehicle, and get small payout, basicly it's on them. They decide to bring out their vehicles on their cold hard isk. They should know what to expect from the other team. someone is going to fight back and when they do, that person should have a back up plan or to make themselves more safe go in a squad, communicate with them and let them know to back you up. Going in blind with an HAV Enforcer doesn't make you hard to kill unless you know whats going on in the field.

The first person to tell someone else that they are whining...releases a massive thread and qq's about AV being powerful lol

Thread is too long to read every single line but what I gathered is that this is another AV is too powerful and needs to be nerfed thread. From what I've skimmed through....I got that vehicles need to either stay where they are or get buffed. Even the LAVs ared fine according to this thread.

I dont use SLs but I use proto AV nades...and for a well fitted Madrugar or Gunnlogi, it takes about 6 Lai Dais to destroy it. Who knows what it will take to destroy a proto tank. With damage mods and passive dmg bonuses to SLs and Forges...they may do incredible damage and it is much easier to solo a tank with those weapons. But you dont get those bonuses with AV nades...they truly are a deterrent unless a tank decides to stand right in front of infantry. Because you can not solo a well-fitted tank without reloading. And if you need a team...then it's working as intended.

Realize the fact that AV nades useful to many people just the way it is,yes the Militia are a bit powerful and should fix that. However if if you were to reduce the damage of all the other AV Nades we might as well just throw rocks at the vehicles

stopped reading when you said swarm launchers needed a major nerf.

they need an over haul their design is stupid for both sides, they move to slow for the fast moving vehicles of today, and deal to little damage for massive amount of resistance on them, and because of the way they track their is little to nothing you can due to compensate the speed of the vehicles.


i'd honestly rather a straight firing missle launcher as I could compensate like I would with a forge gun.

oh well, eventually something will come out I suppose, maybe an officer grade swarm that moves faster...

Very nice. Just one thing I noticed: your armor rep values. It doesn't rep only five times like a shield booster. It reps 414hp every second during each three second pulse, so 15x414=6210.

Now that's almost full hp on an armor tank. It can get back into action in under a minute. Shield boosters however don't even rep half the hp on a shield tank. Now you're talking about sitting idle for minutes as you watch your booster trying to rep you, then wait for it to cooldown.

Shield boosters and armor reps need to have their pulses reversed. Shield in EVE can burst tank while armor takes sustained damage over time. Dust is the exact opposite. Not even. Shield boosters just suck compared to armor reps and armor reps can take damage over time as well as burst tanking.