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Aesiron Kor-Azor
Amarr Templars
Amarr Empire
215
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Posted - 2013.06.06 18:33:00 -
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Just recently there has been the infamous TAC AR nerf, although it did its duty, another problem remains.
One thing CCP do right, FINALLY, but I am sorry to report, there is yet ANOTHER issue which needs an instant nerf, NOW.
Knowing how OP the TAC AR was, I recently paid attention to the Scrambler Rifle, and it is obscenely overpowered if used right..
I am probably going to get hated for this, but that Goddamn thing has like 500 damage if charged? LOL WHAT?! Seriously!!!
Never has there been a better time for a nerf, this thing easily dominates every game mode, regardless of player skill.
Glad to know I am not the only one thinking this anyway, it is obscenely overpowering and I for one think it needs a serious nerf. |
Anita Hardone
Fraternity of St. Venefice
Amarr Empire
29
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Posted - 2013.06.06 18:35:00 -
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In the time it takes to charge aim and fire (and hope you hit) you could do the same amount of damage with another weapon. It also has HMG range.... |
xjumpman23
Royal Uhlans
Amarr Empire
263
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Posted - 2013.06.06 18:36:00 -
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carebear514 |
Sinboto Simmons
SVER True Blood
Unclaimed.
205
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Posted - 2013.06.06 18:36:00 -
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I'm a minny scout so I'm not allowed to comment :(
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KAGEHOSHI Horned Wolf
Seraphim Initiative.
CRONOS.
4225
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Posted - 2013.06.06 18:40:00 -
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In the 2 seconds it takes to charge, the assault rifle can deal 850 damage.
34 damage x 750 RPM / 60 = 425 per second x 2 = 850 for 2 seconds
Your argument is bad, it is still outclassed in DPS. |
Aesiron Kor-Azor
Amarr Templars
Amarr Empire
215
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Posted - 2013.06.06 18:41:00 -
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Anita Hardone wrote:In the time it takes to charge aim and fire (and hope you hit) you could do the same amount of damage with another weapon. It also has HMG range....
None of this is true as far as my play with it is concerned, I can hit AR users and own them easily, but the charge time is pretty irrelevant because you can dip in and out of combat at will. |
Vin Vicious
Sinq Laison Gendarmes
Gallente Federation
124
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Posted - 2013.06.06 18:41:00 -
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In on roll bread, if it isn't, your a moron. 1.It's a shield eater, 2. If you're dumb enough to stand still and let me pwn shot you, you deserve to die and 3. Leave it to the eve/dust community to post on alts like a bunch of losers |
Aesiron Kor-Azor
Amarr Templars
Amarr Empire
215
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Posted - 2013.06.06 18:42:00 -
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KAGEHOSHI Horned Wolf wrote:In the 2 seconds it takes to charge, the assault rifle can deal 850 damage.
34 damage x 750 RPM / 60 = 425 per second x 2 = 850 for 2 seconds
Your argument is bad, it is still outclassed in DPS.
You're forgetting that there's no recoil on the SR. A third of that damage won't even hit the target assuming he's blind enough to stand stil. |
IRuby Heart
DIOS EX.
765
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Posted - 2013.06.06 18:43:00 -
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I wish you weren't so bad at the game, then you could see how utterly stupid your arguement is. |
hooc order
Deep Space Republic
221
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Posted - 2013.06.06 18:43:00 -
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OMFG!!!!
Shut up shut up shut up shut up!!!!
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Planet side 2 can't come to the PS4 soon enough. |
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Aesiron Kor-Azor
Amarr Templars
Amarr Empire
215
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Posted - 2013.06.06 18:44:00 -
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IRuby Heart wrote:I wish you weren't so bad at the game, then you could see how completely stupid your arguement is.
'Acronyms' being the key term here -_-, I thought I made it bleedin' obvious without having to say. |
Scheneighnay McBob
Bojo's School of the Trades
1410
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Posted - 2013.06.06 18:44:00 -
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2 builds ago, I used scrambler pistols exclusively for a while, so I know the massive potential that scrambler rifles have when used correctly.
As always, the community is always oblivious to the power of everything except the FOTM. |
Fiasco Llana
SVER True Blood
Unclaimed.
328
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Posted - 2013.06.06 18:44:00 -
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Aesiron Kor-Azor wrote:KAGEHOSHI Horned Wolf wrote:In the 2 seconds it takes to charge, the assault rifle can deal 850 damage.
34 damage x 750 RPM / 60 = 425 per second x 2 = 850 for 2 seconds
Your argument is bad, it is still outclassed in DPS. You're forgetting that there's no recoil on the SR. A third of that damage won't even hit the target assuming he's blind enough to stand stil.
Lmao there's no recoil on the AR's either. |
Anita Hardone
Fraternity of St. Venefice
Amarr Empire
30
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Posted - 2013.06.06 18:44:00 -
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Aesiron Kor-Azor wrote:KAGEHOSHI Horned Wolf wrote:In the 2 seconds it takes to charge, the assault rifle can deal 850 damage.
34 damage x 750 RPM / 60 = 425 per second x 2 = 850 for 2 seconds
Your argument is bad, it is still outclassed in DPS. You're forgetting that there's no recoil on the SR. A third of that damage won't even hit the target assuming he's blind enough to stand stil.
It only seems like that because it doesnt have a (edit) zoomed scope... And using it in close-med range isnt easy, and mid-long range is penalized by a huge damage drop off. |
Washlee
Not Guilty
EoN.
154
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Posted - 2013.06.06 18:45:00 -
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Aesiron Kor-Azor wrote:Just recently there has been the infamous TAC AR nerf, although it did its duty, another problem remains.
One thing CCP do right, FINALLY, but I am sorry to report, there is yet ANOTHER issue which needs an instant nerf
Knowing how OP the TAC AR was, I recently paid attention to the Scrambler Rifle, and it is OP if used right...
I am probably going to get hated for this, but that Goddamn thing has like 500 damage if charged? LOL WHAT?!
Never has there been a better time for a nerf, this thing easily dominates every game mode, regardless of player skill.
Glad to know I am not the only one thinking this anyway, it is overpowering and I for one think it needs a serious nerf.
I am pleased that the Tac AR was nerfed, but all in CCPs faith, there is MORE work to be done.
Truth be told, the scrambler rifle was FAR worse off than the old TAC AR anyway.
So I am calling for a serious nerf here...
Five seconds is what it took to kill someone with the duvolle, but with this thing? ONE SECOND
I don't want to hate on CCP, they're going a great job, but there are some serious issues with this game.
No one else I know hasn't been affected by this assault sniper rifle.
Everyone is calling for a nerf, CCP, will YOU bring it upon us?
Hopefully some of you can get my acronym.
Get good SR isn't that great requires a decent amount of skill to use. |
Sloth9230
Reaper Galactic
ROFL BROS
1788
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Posted - 2013.06.06 18:45:00 -
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Aesiron Kor-Azor wrote:
Truth be told, the scrambler rifle was FAR worse off than the old TAC AR anyway.
...AHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! |
Aesiron Kor-Azor
Amarr Templars
Amarr Empire
215
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Posted - 2013.06.06 18:46:00 -
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Lol has no one noticed it yet? For real? |
Anita Hardone
Fraternity of St. Venefice
Amarr Empire
30
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Posted - 2013.06.06 18:47:00 -
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Im fully specced in them and have been using them since they were available, but its still easier to do well with a Standard AR BPO. |
Rynoceros
One-Armed Bandits
Unclaimed.
99
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Posted - 2013.06.06 18:49:00 -
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Wow. People fell for it.
You deserve a cookie.
The OP is OP on you idiots. |
IRuby Heart
DIOS EX.
765
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Posted - 2013.06.06 18:49:00 -
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Aesiron Kor-Azor wrote:IRuby Heart wrote:I wish you weren't so bad at the game, then you could see how completely stupid your arguement is. 'Acronyms' being the key term here -_-, I thought I made it bleedin' obvious without having to say.
"Joking it's fine"
Clever. |
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Lance 2ballzStrong
SyNergy Gaming
EoN.
2125
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Posted - 2013.06.06 18:49:00 -
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I can't believe people are saying the SR is OP...
In ALL the games I've played in PC, the SR has to be the weapon that killed me the least amount of times. Wanna know what weapons are the best?
PLAY PLANETARY CONQUEST.
I get killed by AR's, Flaylock pistols, Sniper Rifles, shoguns, Nades... getting killed by an SR is lulz tbh. So rarely it happens. |
Omen Astrul
Holdfast Syndicate
Amarr Empire
9
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Posted - 2013.06.06 18:50:00 -
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Aesiron Kor-Azor wrote:KAGEHOSHI Horned Wolf wrote:In the 2 seconds it takes to charge, the assault rifle can deal 850 damage.
34 damage x 750 RPM / 60 = 425 per second x 2 = 850 for 2 seconds
Your argument is bad, it is still outclassed in DPS. You're forgetting that there's no recoil on the SR. A third of that damage won't even hit the target assuming he's blind enough to stand stil.
A lot of the time your charged shot will miss, and even if it does hit you only have a few shots afterward to finish them off. If you miss more than a couple shots or overheat then you're dead.
The TAR? You could miss 50% of the shots and still kill someone.
Scrambler rifle is fine... |
A'Real Fury
D.A.R.K L.E.G.I.O.N
D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E
106
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Posted - 2013.06.06 18:51:00 -
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I would like all weapons including melee reduced to 1 dps for max skill point earning. The match ends when someone, anyone dies. Therefore in the 1-6 hours it takes for the match to end I should be able to cap out as most players would have no choice but to run around hacking and counter hacking objectives.
Think about it with all damage reduced to 1 dps your sp efficiency will improve dramatically.
OK, back on topic I will not go into the stats for the SCR but others have said it is not about buffs and nerfs it is about balance. If the SCR is not balanced against other weapons then change it but if it is then its DPS does not matter. |
Anita Hardone
Fraternity of St. Venefice
Amarr Empire
30
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Posted - 2013.06.06 18:55:00 -
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Attempted using the the Pay to Win Plasma Cannon once. It was so bad i almost QQ'd to CCP asking for a refund my all of my lifetime Aurum, or like a respec or somethn (even though it takes no SP to use) |
Avallo Kantor
DUST University
Ivy League
13
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Posted - 2013.06.06 18:55:00 -
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Aesiron Kor-Azor wrote: it is OP if used right...
Ideally that statement should be true of every weapon in the game.
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Personally I've used the SR since I started (which wasn't too long ago) and I am having fun with it.
I generally can not kill players unless they are standing still, or at very close range, and often times to ensure a
kill I have to overheat my gun. Generally on the (non-Assault variants) SR I find that the gun will overheat too quickly
if you try to rapid fire it.
(Yes I'm a bad player)
As for not having recoil, lasers don't have recoil. |
Michael Cratar
Fenrir's Wolves
RUST415
206
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Posted - 2013.06.06 18:56:00 -
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Aesiron Kor-Azor wrote:Just recently there has been the infamous TAC AR nerf, although it did its duty, another problem remains.
One thing CCP do right, FINALLY, but I am sorry to report, there is yet ANOTHER issue which needs an instant nerf
Knowing how OP the TAC AR was, I recently paid attention to the Scrambler Rifle, and it is OP if used right...
I am probably going to get hated for this, but that Goddamn thing has like 500 damage if charged? LOL WHAT?!
Never has there been a better time for a nerf, this thing easily dominates every game mode, regardless of player skill.
Glad to know I am not the only one thinking this anyway, it is overpowering and I for one think it needs a serious nerf.
I am pleased that the Tac AR was nerfed, but all in CCPs faith, there is MORE work to be done.
Truth be told, the scrambler rifle was FAR worse off than the old TAC AR anyway.
So I am calling for a serious nerf here...
Five seconds is what it took to kill someone with the duvolle, but with this thing? ONE SECOND
I don't want to hate on CCP, they're going a great job, but there are some serious issues with this game.
No one else I know hasn't been affected by this assault sniper rifle.
Everyone is calling for a nerf, CCP, will YOU bring it upon us?
Plus I hope you know what an Acronym is.
Lol saw it. |
KAGEHOSHI Horned Wolf
Seraphim Initiative.
CRONOS.
4225
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Posted - 2013.06.06 18:56:00 -
[27] - Quote
Aesiron Kor-Azor wrote:KAGEHOSHI Horned Wolf wrote:In the 2 seconds it takes to charge, the assault rifle can deal 850 damage.
34 damage x 750 RPM / 60 = 425 per second x 2 = 850 for 2 seconds
Your argument is bad, it is still outclassed in DPS. You're forgetting that there's no recoil on the SR. A third of that damage won't even hit the target assuming he's blind enough to stand stil.
850 minus 1/3 of 850 is over 566, which is still more damage than 500 from the charged shot. My point still stands.
Secondly, charged shots are a big gamble; dealing that damage with many shots is better than one, because if that one shot misses, all that DPS is lost.
You also don't take into account the level of heat that builds up from charged shots. |
Driftward
Subdreddit
Test Alliance Please Ignore
156
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Posted - 2013.06.06 18:59:00 -
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Everyone take a step back. Breath. And look back at the OP. Read horizontally. Then, read the vertical. Yep. they got you good. |
semperfi1999
Internal Error.
Negative-Feedback
514
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Posted - 2013.06.06 19:01:00 -
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They are all blind fanbois.
That being said I love this because I know how crazy powerful the scrambler rifle is and I know that so many ppl right now are calling it perfectly balanced. Balanced??? PPPPSSSHHHH... I do better with this gun than I ever did using the tact. Tact took alot more skill to fight against the recoil. This thing I can kill someone before they even realize they are being shot. |
True Adamance
Ametat Security
Amarr Empire
78
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Posted - 2013.06.06 19:08:00 -
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Aesiron Kor-Azor wrote:Just recently there has been the infamous TAC AR nerf, although it did its duty, another problem remains.
One thing CCP do right, FINALLY, but I am sorry to report, there is yet ANOTHER issue which needs an instant nerf
Knowing how OP the TAC AR was, I recently paid attention to the Scrambler Rifle, and it is OP if used right...
I am probably going to get hated for this, but that Goddamn thing has like 500 damage if charged? LOL WHAT?!
Never has there been a better time for a nerf, this thing easily dominates every game mode, regardless of player skill.
Glad to know I am not the only one thinking this anyway, it is overpowering and I for one think it needs a serious nerf.
I am pleased that the Tac AR was nerfed, but all in CCPs faith, there is MORE work to be done.
Truth be told, the scrambler rifle was FAR worse off than the old TAC AR anyway.
So I am calling for a serious nerf here...
Five seconds is what it took to kill someone with the duvolle, but with this thing? ONE SECOND
I don't want to hate on CCP, they're going a great job, but there are some serious issues with this game.
No one else I know hasn't been affected by this assault sniper rifle.
Everyone is calling for a nerf, CCP, will YOU bring it upon us?
Plus I hope you know what an Acronym is.
MOst intelligent thread on this forum ever! |
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Aesiron Kor-Azor
Amarr Templars
Amarr Empire
215
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Posted - 2013.06.06 19:16:00 -
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I just made this to test how observant the haters and bashers really were, they rarely actually read your argument and just spout hatred.
Plus it was amusing :)
I said 'joking its fine' as an acronym. |
Carter Raynor
The Generals
EoN.
24
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Posted - 2013.06.06 19:26:00 -
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OP, you obviously have no idea what the SR is about. Go play with it, and you will see why it's BALANCED. Everyone is crying about any weapon that kills them by a better player, seriously go away. |
Surt gods end
Demon Ronin
220
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Posted - 2013.06.06 19:30:00 -
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Ladies are OP. How they are able to get me to give them their way, is astounding. |
True Adamance
Ametat Security
Amarr Empire
78
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Posted - 2013.06.06 19:31:00 -
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Carter Raynor wrote:OP, you obviously have no idea what the SR is about. Go play with it, and you will see why it's BALANCED. Everyone is crying about any weapon that kills them by a better player, seriously go away.
Uh this guy your telling to go away is one of the few proponents of prop Amarr love on this forum..... talking to a member of the Kor-Azor family like that is grounds for immeadiate execution.
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Zatara Rought
TeamPlayers
EoN.
169
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Posted - 2013.06.06 19:33:00 -
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This guy should go biomass himself. -1 OP. |
Lilah Silverstone
The Arrow Project
65
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Posted - 2013.06.06 19:36:00 -
[36] - Quote
Aesiron Kor-Azor wrote:I just made this to test how observant the haters and bashers really were, they rarely actually read your argument and just spout hatred.
Plus it was amusing :)
I said 'joking its fine' as an acronym.
10/10 would read again. |
Camp Day
Shining Flame
Amarr Empire
0
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Posted - 2013.06.06 19:39:00 -
[37] - Quote
We gotta start a isk pool of what the next possible nerf is...............
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True Adamance
Ametat Security
Amarr Empire
79
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Posted - 2013.06.06 19:45:00 -
[38] - Quote
How can these people not notice the obvious trick to the OP? |
Sev Alcatraz
The Tritan Industries
RISE of LEGION
268
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Posted - 2013.06.06 20:00:00 -
[39] - Quote
charge it and get a headshot, I use the Imperial scrambler rifle and 1 in 10 shots (charged is an instant kill/head shot)
The SCR is not over power as it takes skill and practice to use correctly, before you go and start Crying nerf think about how long someone has been using it.
The TAC was OP because anyone could pick it up and be god, Pick up a scramble rifle and try and do the same, it won't happen, the gun is longer and has a lot of sway when aiming down the slight the slightest movement will throw you off.
I have been using the cartham scr for a week now and im just getting good at using it, I picked up a Proto TAC and was an instant god
no nerf needed it is not op |
noob cavman
Shadow Company HQ
14
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Posted - 2013.06.06 20:12:00 -
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Im guessing most of you don't read after the first post.... |
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Your Absolut End
SVER True Blood
Unclaimed.
92
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Posted - 2013.06.06 20:25:00 -
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True Adamance wrote:Aesiron Kor-Azor wrote:Just recently there has been the infamous TAC AR nerf, although it did its duty, another problem remains.
One thing CCP do right, FINALLY, but I am sorry to report, there is yet ANOTHER issue which needs an instant nerf
Knowing how OP the TAC AR was, I recently paid attention to the Scrambler Rifle, and it is OP if used right...
I am probably going to get hated for this, but that Goddamn thing has like 500 damage if charged? LOL WHAT?!
Never has there been a better time for a nerf, this thing easily dominates every game mode, regardless of player skill.
Glad to know I am not the only one thinking this anyway, it is overpowering and I for one think it needs a serious nerf.
I am pleased that the Tac AR was nerfed, but all in CCPs faith, there is MORE work to be done.
Truth be told, the scrambler rifle was FAR worse off than the old TAC AR anyway.
So I am calling for a serious nerf here...
Five seconds is what it took to kill someone with the duvolle, but with this thing? ONE SECOND
I don't want to hate on CCP, they're going a great job, but there are some serious issues with this game.
No one else I know hasn't been affected by this assault sniper rifle.
Everyone is calling for a nerf, CCP, will YOU bring it upon us?
Plus I hope you know what an Acronym is. MOst intelligent thread on this forum ever!
Dude this blasts my head 
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Surt gods end
Demon Ronin
220
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Posted - 2013.06.06 20:26:00 -
[42] - Quote
STEALTH OP
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DeadlyAztec11
Mannar Focused Warfare
Gallente Federation
518
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Posted - 2013.06.19 13:48:00 -
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Scheneighnay McBob wrote:2 builds ago, I used scrambler pistols exclusively for a while, so I know the massive potential that scrambler rifles have when used correctly.
As always, the community is always oblivious to the power of everything except the FOTM.
Scrambler Pistol > Scrambler rifle.
I can take down a proto assault suit in one to two head shots with the,pistol, with the rifle I would have to charge up to deal the same damage. |
iceyburnz
Crux Special Tasks Group
Gallente Federation
811
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Posted - 2013.06.19 14:04:00 -
[44] - Quote
You blew my mind. |
Midas Fool
Kirkinen Risk Control
Caldari State
29
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Posted - 2013.06.19 14:22:00 -
[45] - Quote
Oh damn the responses to this suddenly explain everything that's wrong with the community 
Good stuff OP. Nice try forum warriors. |
J-Lewis
Edimmu Warfighters
Gallente Federation
154
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Posted - 2013.06.19 14:31:00 -
[46] - Quote
The only nerf the scrambler rifle might need is increased ammo consumption for charged shots (it's a battery after all). |
Cinaed Corvus
Kameira Lodge
Amarr Empire
14
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Posted - 2013.06.19 14:41:00 -
[47] - Quote
Aesiron Kor-Azor wrote:Just recently there has been the infamous TAC AR nerf, although it did its duty, another problem remains.
One thing CCP do right, FINALLY, but I am sorry to report, there is yet ANOTHER issue which needs an instant nerf
Knowing how OP the TAC AR was, I recently paid attention to the Scrambler Rifle, and it is OP if used right...
I am probably going to get hated for this, but that Goddamn thing has like 500 damage if charged? LOL WHAT?!
Never has there been a better time for a nerf, this thing easily dominates every game mode, regardless of player skill.
Glad to know I am not the only one thinking this anyway, it is overpowering and I for one think it needs a serious nerf.
I am pleased that the Tac AR was nerfed, but all in CCPs faith, there is MORE work to be done.
Truth be told, the scrambler rifle was FAR worse off than the old TAC AR anyway.
So I am calling for a serious nerf here...
Five seconds is what it took to kill someone with the duvolle, but with this thing? ONE SECOND
I don't want to hate on CCP, they're going a great job, but there are some serious issues with this game.
No one else I know hasn't been affected by this assault sniper rifle.
Everyone is calling for a nerf, CCP, will YOU bring it upon us?
Plus I hope you know what an Acronym is.
Hey, next thing you'll want mo nerf the sniper rifle. HTFU and get some gun game. The Scrambler takes skill especially with the optimal range that is crap.
For someone who seems to be role playing as an Amarr, you seem to REALLY hate on a weapon of the empress's design to bring about the reclaiming. Yet another person who cannot use a piece of equipment so just wants it nerved.
The scrambler rifle is fine, and if anything else, still needs a max and optimal range buff if it is to be kept within the premise of EVE tech lore. |
Daxxis KANNAH
Tronhadar Free Guard
Minmatar Republic
99
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Posted - 2013.06.19 14:42:00 -
[48] - Quote
J-Lewis wrote:The only nerf the scrambler rifle might need is increased ammo consumption for charged shots (it's a battery after all).
Also, the issue that was reported about the rifle not working as it was envisioned - the faster you fire, the quicker the rifle should overheat.
CCP should speak on that though, if its working as intended then that doesnt need to be addressed. |
Terra Thesis
HDYLTA
Defiant Legacy
193
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Posted - 2013.06.19 14:46:00 -
[49] - Quote
9/10 |
Severance Pay
Purgatorium of the Damned
League of Infamy
399
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Posted - 2013.06.19 14:53:00 -
[50] - Quote
Aesiron Kor-Azor wrote:Just recently there has been the infamous TAC AR nerf, although it did its duty, another problem remains.
One thing CCP do right, FINALLY, but I am sorry to report, there is yet ANOTHER issue which needs an instant nerf
Knowing how OP the TAC AR was, I recently paid attention to the Scrambler Rifle, and it is OP if used right...
I am probably going to get hated for this, but that Goddamn thing has like 500 damage if charged? LOL WHAT?!
Never has there been a better time for a nerf, this thing easily dominates every game mode, regardless of player skill.
Glad to know I am not the only one thinking this anyway, it is overpowering and I for one think it needs a serious nerf.
I am pleased that the Tac AR was nerfed, but all in CCPs faith, there is MORE work to be done.
Truth be told, the scrambler rifle was FAR worse off than the old TAC AR anyway.
So I am calling for a serious nerf here...
Five seconds is what it took to kill someone with the duvolle, but with this thing? ONE SECOND
I don't want to hate on CCP, they're going a great job, but there are some serious issues with this game.
No one else I know hasn't been affected by this assault sniper rifle.
Everyone is calling for a nerf, CCP, will YOU bring it upon us?
Plus I hope you know what an Acronym is.
Forge gun does 1500 dmg when charged. Should we nerf it?
PLC does 1100 dmg. Should we nerf that?
Hell PLC does 300 dmg from splash in 0.6 sec charge, this way overpowers scrambler.
By your logic I would say scrambler rifle needs a buff. It clearly sux. |
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Laurent Cazaderon
What The French
CRONOS.
1604
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Posted - 2013.06.19 14:56:00 -
[51] - Quote
Scrambler rifles are fine.
They over heat, landing that one charged shot is not that easy. They dont have as much range as the tac had. Etc...
Bottom line, it's fine. |
Marston VC
SVER True Blood
Public Disorder.
295
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Posted - 2013.06.19 15:06:00 -
[52] - Quote
KAGEHOSHI Horned Wolf wrote:In the 2 seconds it takes to charge, the assault rifle can deal 850 damage.
34 damage x 750 RPM / 60 = 425 per second x 2 = 850 for 2 seconds
Your argument is bad, it is still outclassed in DPS.
Your confusing total DPS over time with the Total Up front damage the SR can do. Not that it matters I don't think the OPs post has any real argument behind it anyway. Lol, what if you miss the first shot right? |
Byozuma Kegawa
Shining Flame
Amarr Empire
136
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Posted - 2013.06.19 15:54:00 -
[53] - Quote
We may get it, people posting here may eventually get it, but the question at hand is will CCP get it? Understand, people have been complaining about the scrambler rifle ever since the tactical assault rifle got nerfed, seriously complaining. This looks like every other complaint thread so one hopes that CCP sees the joke. Also, I still don't know how to use a scrambler rifle correctly... |
IrishWebster
Algintal Core
Gallente Federation
22
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Posted - 2013.06.19 16:03:00 -
[54] - Quote
Aesiron Kor-Azor wrote:Just recently there has been the infamous TAC AR nerf, although it did its duty, another problem remains.
One thing CCP do right, FINALLY, but I am sorry to report, there is yet ANOTHER issue which needs an instant nerf
Knowing how OP the TAC AR was, I recently paid attention to the Scrambler Rifle, and it is OP if used right...
I am probably going to get hated for this, but that Goddamn thing has like 500 damage if charged? LOL WHAT?!
Never has there been a better time for a nerf, this thing easily dominates every game mode, regardless of player skill.
Glad to know I am not the only one thinking this anyway, it is overpowering and I for one think it needs a serious nerf.
I am pleased that the Tac AR was nerfed, but all in CCPs faith, there is MORE work to be done.
Truth be told, the scrambler rifle was FAR worse off than the old TAC AR anyway.
So I am calling for a serious nerf here...
Five seconds is what it took to kill someone with the duvolle, but with this thing? ONE SECOND
I don't want to hate on CCP, they're going a great job, but there are some serious issues with this game.
No one else I know hasn't been affected by this assault sniper rifle.
Everyone is calling for a nerf, CCP, will YOU bring it upon us?
Plus I hope you know what an Acronym is.
... WAAAAAH!! Wah wah WAAAAAHHHHH!!
^^^ The sound my 9 month old daughter makes when I take her toy and tell her it's nap time. Funny thing is... she's nine months old, and already starting to grow out of crying.
When will you?
The scrambler rifle is fine. I've personally seen it blow up half as many people as have managed to kill me with it. Admittedly, it's funny as HELL. There SHOULD be a ridiculous amount of damage coming out of that thing, for the risk of simply using it. It takes a LOT of skill to fight effectively with that weapon. They might get off one shot of 500 damage, but believe me... they won't be engaging another target for a few seconds. They're basically naked in the arctic with a lighter for warmth, dude.
Trust me, they're fine. |
ZDub 303
TeamPlayers
EoN.
419
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Posted - 2013.06.19 16:14:00 -
[55] - Quote
The scrambler is actually quite balanced. It only does 500 damage on a charged headshot with an imperial. That is fairly difficult to do to a moving target, esp with this games awful hit detection.
Otherwise, landing a charged body shot is ~350 I think? Thats tankable by a proto or even advanced suit.
If anything, armor tanking needs a buff to be more resilient, cause my adv logi shield build can take that in the few instances it does happen.
Also, using the charged shot puts you in a bad position in terms of overheat, and you have to land the next 4-5 shots out of 9 that you get to get the kill.
I do believe optimal range should remain where it is, charged shot + damage fall off is going to be potent, and make this a long range beast in the right hands. |
Zatara Rought
TeamPlayers
EoN.
246
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Posted - 2013.06.19 16:24:00 -
[56] - Quote
Marston VC wrote:KAGEHOSHI Horned Wolf wrote:In the 2 seconds it takes to charge, the assault rifle can deal 850 damage.
34 damage x 750 RPM / 60 = 425 per second x 2 = 850 for 2 seconds
Your argument is bad, it is still outclassed in DPS. Your confusing total DPS over time with the Total Up front damage the SR can do. Not that it matters I don't think the OPs post has any real argument behind it anyway. Lol, what if you miss the first shot right?
I do not think it is OP. It's fine. On these points though you also must consider the SR can charge and walk around right? Furthermore you can use cover preventing damage from being inflicted while the ar must be exposed for loner periods of time in order to inflict similar damage. The immediacy of the damage can be disorienting. |
Zatara Rought
TeamPlayers
EoN.
246
|
Posted - 2013.06.19 16:24:00 -
[57] - Quote
ZDub 303 wrote:The scrambler is actually quite balanced. It only does 500 damage on a charged headshot with an imperial. That is fairly difficult to do to a moving target, esp with this games awful hit detection.
Otherwise, landing a charged body shot is ~350 I think? Thats tankable by a proto or even advanced suit.
If anything, armor tanking needs a buff to be more resilient, cause my adv logi shield build can take that in the few instances it does happen.
Also, using the charged shot puts you in a bad position in terms of overheat, and you have to land the next 4-5 shots out of 9 that you get to get the kill.
I do believe optimal range should remain where it is, charged shot + damage fall off is going to be potent, and make this a long range beast in the right hands.
My quadruple proto uplink fit only has 400 hp >.< |
Fearless Speech
Villore Sec Ops
Gallente Federation
3
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Posted - 2013.06.19 16:29:00 -
[58] - Quote
Aesiron Kor-Azor wrote:Just recently there has been the infamous TAC AR nerf, although it did its duty, another problem remains.
One thing CCP do right, FINALLY, but I am sorry to report, there is yet ANOTHER issue which needs an instant nerf
Knowing how OP the TAC AR was, I recently paid attention to the Scrambler Rifle, and it is OP if used right...
I am probably going to get hated for this, but that Goddamn thing has like 500 damage if charged? LOL WHAT?!
Never has there been a better time for a nerf, this thing easily dominates every game mode, regardless of player skill.
Glad to know I am not the only one thinking this anyway, it is overpowering and I for one think it needs a serious nerf.
I am pleased that the Tac AR was nerfed, but all in CCPs faith, there is MORE work to be done.
Truth be told, the scrambler rifle was FAR worse off than the old TAC AR anyway.
So I am calling for a serious nerf here...
Five seconds is what it took to kill someone with the duvolle, but with this thing? ONE SECOND
I don't want to hate on CCP, they're going a great job, but there are some serious issues with this game.
No one else I know hasn't been affected by this assault sniper rifle.
Everyone is calling for a nerf, CCP, will YOU bring it upon us?
Plus I hope you know what an Acronym is.
I think you are everything that is wrong with this, and really every, fps community.
Lately, every time I open the froums its full of peopel constantly complaining about how the game works.
Of course you think the SR is OP. You probably ran around in your AR build and lost a strafe fight. Now you're all "SR
Very OP CUS I AM TOO GOOD TO FAIL. I don't even feel the need to fight your arguement with numbers, I think
Everyone who reads this will isntantly realize how dumb you are and CCP wont listen to this.
You should just go back to what ever game you normally play thats really just all ARs all the time with aim assist thats so
Omnipresent you can't miss and feel its "balanced" because everyone you look at dies. A shame that you don't see how
Unusually ambitious Dust is and how amazing the game could one day be.
Otherwise, just stay off the froums and let those of us who enjoy the game have a place to talk about enjoying and
Playing rather than having to wade through endless drivel and negativity. |
Colonel Killar
DUST CORE
DARKSTAR ARMY
11
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Posted - 2013.06.19 16:30:00 -
[59] - Quote
hooc order wrote:OMFG!!!!
Shut up shut up shut up shut up!!!!
....
Planet side 2 can't come to the PS4 soon enough.
Credit card to win, Grindfest, or Zerg tactics. How would you like your arguement destroyed? |
Midas Fool
Kirkinen Risk Control
Caldari State
36
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Posted - 2013.06.19 16:34:00 -
[60] - Quote
PEOPLE
OH ****
READ THE DAMN POST AGAIN
CAREFULLY THIS TIME
READ SOME RESPONSES
PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE
YOU CAN DO THIS |
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Colonel Killar
DUST CORE
DARKSTAR ARMY
12
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Posted - 2013.06.19 16:34:00 -
[61] - Quote
Lance 2ballzStrong wrote:I can't believe people are saying the SR is OP...
In ALL the games I've played in PC, the SR has to be the weapon that killed me the least amount of times. Wanna know what weapons are the best?
PLAY PLANETARY CONQUEST.
I get killed by AR's, Flaylock pistols, Sniper Rifles, shoguns, Nades... getting killed by an SR is lulz tbh. So rarely it happens.
And how many Tanks, Assault/Logi Dropships, have you seen? Just wondering or maybe these people (sorry to anyone who actually specced into real AV) are right Tanks are still OP to these Pub match wussies |
Zahle Undt
the tritan industries
RISE of LEGION
225
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Posted - 2013.06.19 17:16:00 -
[62] - Quote
Aesiron Kor-Azor wrote:Just recently there has been the infamous TAC AR nerf, although it did its duty, another problem remains.
One thing CCP do right, FINALLY, but I am sorry to report, there is yet ANOTHER issue which needs an instant nerf
Knowing how OP the TAC AR was, I recently paid attention to the Scrambler Rifle, and it is OP if used right...
I am probably going to get hated for this, but that Goddamn thing has like 500 damage if charged? LOL WHAT?!
Never has there been a better time for a nerf, this thing easily dominates every game mode, regardless of player skill.
Glad to know I am not the only one thinking this anyway, it is overpowering and I for one think it needs a serious nerf.
I am pleased that the Tac AR was nerfed, but all in CCPs faith, there is MORE work to be done.
Truth be told, the scrambler rifle was FAR worse off than the old TAC AR anyway.
So I am calling for a serious nerf here...
Five seconds is what it took to kill someone with the duvolle, but with this thing? ONE SECOND
I don't want to hate on CCP, they're going a great job, but there are some serious issues with this game.
No one else I know hasn't been affected by this assault sniper rifle.
Everyone is calling for a nerf, CCP, will YOU bring it upon us?
Plus I hope you know what an Acronym is.
A fine troll dear OP and I feel slow for not seeing it myself. Here I was trying to string your caps within your post. |
Doyle Reese
OSG Planetary Operations
Covert Intervention
151
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Posted - 2013.06.19 17:34:00 -
[63] - Quote
I heard from other SR users that there is a bug where the SR does bonus to shield but there is no damage penalty to armor (like it should) |
Fearless Speech
Villore Sec Ops
Gallente Federation
3
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Posted - 2013.06.19 17:41:00 -
[64] - Quote
Zahle Undt wrote:
A fine troll dear OP and I feel slow for not seeing it myself. Here I was trying to string your caps within your post.
The CPM missed it too. Which is a million lols. |
Sleepy Zan
Shape Entirety
2303
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Posted - 2013.06.19 17:51:00 -
[65] - Quote
Aesiron Kor-Azor wrote: Scrambler Rifle, and it is OP if used right...
Aesiron Kor-Azor wrote: Scrambler Rifle, and it is OP if used right...
Aesiron Kor-Azor wrote: Scrambler Rifle, and it is OP if used right...
Aesiron Kor-Azor wrote: Scrambler Rifle, and it is OP if used right...
Aesiron Kor-Azor wrote: Scrambler Rifle, and it is OP if used right...
 |
Darken-Sol
BIG BAD W0LVES
Eternal Syndicate
312
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Posted - 2013.06.19 17:54:00 -
[66] - Quote
Aesiron Kor-Azor wrote:Anita Hardone wrote:In the time it takes to charge aim and fire (and hope you hit) you could do the same amount of damage with another weapon. It also has HMG range.... None of this is true as far as my play with it is concerned, I can hit AR users and own them easily, but the charge time is pretty irrelevant because you can dip in and out of combat at will.
Its because everyone is sheild tanking. Stupid FOTM. Too bad you wasted your respec on shields.
+1 for scrams |
Aisha Ctarl
The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar
DARKSTAR ARMY
287
|
Posted - 2013.06.19 18:16:00 -
[67] - Quote
The Scrambler Rifles are fine.
They are designed like most Amarr weapons to be highly effective against shields. The sudden vanishing of shields cause people to think that the SCR's have an abnormally high DPS which is not the case because once they get into armor, the SCR's truly begin to struggle.
Fully specced into with SCR V, Proficiency V, and Enhanced or Complex Damage mods, the SCR's are quite deadly and can easily kill quicker than the TAC, Duvolle AR, or GEK, but they are NOT OP. For one, they overheat and give feedback damage which can kill the user if they aren't paying attention to the head build up or their health.
The reason the SCR may FEEL OP is because the major nerf to the TAC was not the clip size, but the ROF reduction. No longer can one spam R1 on the TAC and out DPS everything on the battlefield, but with the SCR you can. The ROF on the SCR is 750 or 780 RPM I believe, so with negligible recoil and the high ROF, the SCR comes off as OP....you just have to keep in mind its downsides. |
Johnny Guilt
Algintal Core
Gallente Federation
112
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Posted - 2013.06.19 18:21:00 -
[68] - Quote
Without reading the whole thread it's the KBM ******* up balance again isn't it?along with the heatbuildup |
rebecca watson
OSG Planetary Operations
Covert Intervention
65
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Posted - 2013.06.19 20:42:00 -
[69] - Quote
Good lord, I can't believe you guys can't see how overpowered this weapon is.
Original poster tried to point it out for everyone, but apparantly he can't quite get it through to you all.
One shot people!!! One shot 500hp?? How is this not overpowered?
Direct hit, boom, if the other guy isn't dead, then a couple follow up shots and it's over.
One thing I don't understand, is how everyone else isn't using this already, It's good in CQC too.
New nerfs are needed sometimes, especially when people can't read forum threads thoroughly.
Every time people try to point something out, they get shot down, mostly because no one takes the time to read.
 |
Commander Tuna
KILL-EM-QUICK
RISE of LEGION
62
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Posted - 2013.06.19 20:58:00 -
[70] - Quote
rebecca watson wrote:Good lord, I can't believe you guys can't see how overpowered this weapon is. Original poster tried to point it out for everyone, but apparantly he can't quite get it through to you all. One shot people!!! One shot 500hp?? How is this not overpowered? Direct hit, boom, if the other guy isn't dead, then a couple follow up shots and it's over. One thing I don't understand, is how everyone else isn't using this already, It's good in CQC too. New nerfs are needed sometimes, especially when people can't read forum threads thoroughly. Every time people try to point something out, they get shot down, mostly because no one takes the time to read.
Not sure if..........
0/10. |
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General Technique
Vherokior Combat Logistics
Minmatar Republic
57
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Posted - 2013.06.19 21:04:00 -
[71] - Quote
Dust514 - "Derps feeding trolls" |
RoundEy3
Metal Mind Industries
109
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Posted - 2013.06.19 21:06:00 -
[72] - Quote
Funny I always thought scrambler rifles were one of the weapon classes they got mostly right from the get go. Only exception being the skill bonus only affects one variant.
I've been killed by them and use them and all seems good, don't ask for more mistakes when there were none to start with.
If you want to say the charge damage is OP think of it like this, IF you miss with your charged shot you are at a severe disadvantage because you will not have enough remaining shots before overheat to kill most enemies.
Not to mention all of the statistical points people like Kagehoshi(think I spelled it correctly) have put up about AR's and Scram's
DON'T RUIN ANOTHER ENERGY WEAPON.....please |
True Adamance
PIE Inc.
Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
209
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Posted - 2013.06.19 21:14:00 -
[73] - Quote
RoundEy3 wrote:Funny I always thought scrambler rifles were one of the weapon classes they got mostly right from the get go. Only exception being the skill bonus only affects one variant.
I've been killed by them and use them and all seems good, don't ask for more mistakes when there were none to start with.
If you want to say the charge damage is OP think of it like this, IF you miss with your charged shot you are at a severe disadvantage because you will not have enough remaining shots before overheat to kill most enemies.
Not to mention all of the statistical points people like Kagehoshi(think I spelled it correctly) have put up about AR's and Scram's
DON'T RUIN ANOTHER ENERGY WEAPON.....please
You didn't see the acronym in the OP did you? Read vertically every first letter of the sentences..... I cannot believe this got another one. |
RoundEy3
Metal Mind Industries
109
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Posted - 2013.06.19 21:16:00 -
[74] - Quote
I know the OP is a joke, but along the line there are people that will flock to this and mindlessly agree with it because they've been killed by scrams. |
Kiro Justice
the tritan industries
RISE of LEGION
117
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Posted - 2013.06.19 21:49:00 -
[75] - Quote
In what world is the SR overpowered? Are you a nerf brigade? Is it your job to see everything get nerfed? Seriously, the shots go DIRECTLY where you place them, so you can't even spray and pray, not to mention that it's one of the few guns in this game that can kill it's operator so you will lose MANY a heated firefight due to that. Seriously, I can't count the times I "Committed Suicide" right when I was about to put that last shot to my enemy, all because of overheat!
In short - The weapon isn't overpowered, you're just a noob, HTFU, GET GUD. |
St Evilsbitch
HavoK Core
RISE of LEGION
87
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Posted - 2013.06.19 21:50:00 -
[76] - Quote
Aesiron Kor-Azor wrote:Just recently there has been the infamous TAC AR nerf, although it did its duty, another problem remains.
One thing CCP do right, FINALLY, but I am sorry to report, there is yet ANOTHER issue which needs an instant nerf
Knowing how OP the TAC AR was, I recently paid attention to the Scrambler Rifle, and it is OP if used right...
I am probably going to get hated for this, but that Goddamn thing has like 500 damage if charged? LOL WHAT?!
Never has there been a better time for a nerf, this thing easily dominates every game mode, regardless of player skill.
Glad to know I am not the only one thinking this anyway, it is overpowering and I for one think it needs a serious nerf.
I am pleased that the Tac AR was nerfed, but all in CCPs faith, there is MORE work to be done.
Truth be told, the scrambler rifle was FAR worse off than the old TAC AR anyway.
So I am calling for a serious nerf here...
Five seconds is what it took to kill someone with the duvolle, but with this thing? ONE SECOND
I don't want to hate on CCP, they're going a great job, but there are some serious issues with this game.
No one else I know hasn't been affected by this assault sniper rifle.
Everyone is calling for a nerf, CCP, will YOU bring it upon us?
Plus I hope you know what an Acronym is.
Please read only underlined text.
+1 TO OP
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Xender17
Intrepidus XI
Omega Commission
176
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Posted - 2013.06.19 21:54:00 -
[77] - Quote
Everything is "OP" if used "right". |
Leither Yiltron
KILL-EM-QUICK
RISE of LEGION
544
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Posted - 2013.06.20 01:40:00 -
[78] - Quote
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A-P-P-Baby
KILL-EM-QUICK
RISE of LEGION
2
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Posted - 2013.06.20 01:46:00 -
[79] - Quote
Leither Yiltron wrote:Deleted
smooth move  |
Disturbingly Bored
The Strontium Asylum
290
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Posted - 2013.06.20 01:59:00 -
[80] - Quote
Aesiron Kor-Azor wrote:Plus I hope you know what an Acronym is.
Not to be the sole English nerd here, but technically, it's an Acrostic.
ED: And +1 for writing an Acrostic troll thread on a gaming forum.
ED2: Dammit, I am so late to this party. OP is 6.06.13. -1 to me. |
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Abron Garr
Amarr Templars
Amarr Empire
519
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Posted - 2013.06.20 02:15:00 -
[81] - Quote
CCP will think this is real. |
PlanetSide2Bomber
Edimmu Warfighters
Gallente Federation
1
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Posted - 2013.06.20 03:08:00 -
[82] - Quote
Be your own Judge. What game looks like more fun to you? Dust.........Or this.........
Planetside 2
Coming to PS4 this year
Insane Infantry Push
Amazing Night Battle
Night to Day Canyon Battle
Intense Field Battle
Desert Infantry Line
Huge Desert Tank Battle
100 Tank Convoy
150 man Air Raid
65/0 Kill streak in the air
NC Montage
Factions Explained |
Sasseros
One-Armed Bandits
0
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Posted - 2013.06.20 03:14:00 -
[83] - Quote
...Srambler Rifle is fine, if used correct with Head shots, even my Burst rifle is OP. |
Terra Thesis
HDYLTA
Defiant Legacy
209
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Posted - 2013.06.20 03:29:00 -
[84] - Quote
it's been so long since i've seen a proper, old school troll...
*wipes tear*
I amend my score to 7/10 + 1 point per page this thread reaches |
Protocake JR
Internal Error.
Negative-Feedback
111
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Posted - 2013.06.20 03:38:00 -
[85] - Quote
I only read the first page of this thread. I just wan't to congratulate nearly every poster in the first page for not being able to see the obvious. I feel embarrassed for all of you. |
Aliakin Koreck
Chatelain Rapid Response
Gallente Federation
0
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Posted - 2013.06.20 05:38:00 -
[86] - Quote
Turbo controllers are really messin with this game, even after the tacar |
Chilled Pill
Pro Hic Immortalis
102
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Posted - 2013.06.20 06:35:00 -
[87] - Quote
Not sure if thread is full of win or fail....
....OP is a win, the resulting thread vomit makes me want to face'palm' the earth. (or should it be face'earth') |
Rei Shepard
Spectre II
344
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Posted - 2013.06.20 06:51:00 -
[88] - Quote
Aesiron Kor-Azor wrote:KAGEHOSHI Horned Wolf wrote:In the 2 seconds it takes to charge, the assault rifle can deal 850 damage.
34 damage x 750 RPM / 60 = 425 per second x 2 = 850 for 2 seconds
Your argument is bad, it is still outclassed in DPS. You're forgetting that there's no recoil on the SR. A third of that damage won't even hit the target assuming he's blind enough to stand stil.
You mean to say theres recoil on the AR's? How bad are you ? Go pick up APB R, get a Tommygun then get back to me about recoil because even that gun has near 0 recoil for me.
Recoil and same gun used by someone who can control the recoil
The scrambler charged up does around a 300 damage not 500 and yes will kill anyone in militia in a shot, need headshots for protos, but even then a smal burst on the head from any AR kills really fast and anyone not using the proto amarr suit cant really use the gun effeciently.
The Tac was clearly OP, the SCR not so much, even my buddy tried it during the Tac reign as he saw me pwning with it, 1 hour later he was back at the Tac and is now playing AR 514 again. |
Syther Shadows
The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar
DARKSTAR ARMY
143
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Posted - 2013.06.20 09:13:00 -
[89] - Quote
Aesiron Kor-Azor wrote:Just recently there has been the infamous TAC AR nerf, although it did its duty, another problem remains.
One thing CCP do right, FINALLY, but I am sorry to report, there is yet ANOTHER issue which needs an instant nerf
Knowing how OP the TAC AR was, I recently paid attention to the Scrambler Rifle, and it is OP if used right...
I am probably going to get hated for this, but that Goddamn thing has like 500 damage if charged? LOL WHAT?!
Never has there been a better time for a nerf, this thing easily dominates every game mode, regardless of player skill.
Glad to know I am not the only one thinking this anyway, it is overpowering and I for one think it needs a serious nerf.
I am pleased that the Tac AR was nerfed, but all in CCPs faith, there is MORE work to be done.
Truth be told, the scrambler rifle was FAR worse off than the old TAC AR anyway.
So I am calling for a serious nerf here...
Five seconds is what it took to kill someone with the duvolle, but with this thing? ONE SECOND
I don't want to hate on CCP, they're going a great job, but there are some serious issues with this game.
No one else I know hasn't been affected by this assault sniper rifle.
Everyone is calling for a nerf, CCP, will YOU bring it upon us?
Plus I hope you know what an Acronym is.
and it is OP if used right...
and it is OP if used right...
and it is OP if used right...
and it is OP if used right...
and it is OP if used right...
and it is OP if used right...
OH IM SORRY IM NOT ALLOWED TO USE A WEAPON RIGHT OK THEN IM SORRY ILL STOP BEING A SKILLED PLAYER
Yes its Fine just nerf my damage down to that of the ar so that you have your fully auto gunfire while i have my single tap
THAT OVER HEATS AND BURNS YOU AND CAN RESULT IN SUICIDE IF YOUR CARELESS
(question) have you even used the gun. ?
(likely answer) NO
(question) Did you know it does X4 on headshots
(likely answer) NO
(question) Did you hit some shield tanking scrub in the head with a fully charged shot ?
(likely answer) Yes OMG DIS GUN OP ERRMMAAGGERRRD.
You don't even get the fully auto variant until you get lv 4 i think.....
please just stop now start using the weapon and tell me its op when you have to ADS just to hit anything... |
Mikael Murray
Kameira Lodge
Amarr Empire
0
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Posted - 2013.06.20 22:57:00 -
[90] - Quote
Protocake JR wrote:I only read the first page of this thread. I just wan't to congratulate nearly every poster in the first page for not being able to see the obvious. I feel embarrassed for all of you.
What are you referring to? |
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Protocake JR
Internal Error.
Negative-Feedback
111
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Posted - 2013.06.20 23:01:00 -
[91] - Quote
Mikael Murray wrote:Protocake JR wrote:I only read the first page of this thread. I just wan't to congratulate nearly every poster in the first page for not being able to see the obvious. I feel embarrassed for all of you. What are you referring to?
The first letter of each line spells out "JOKING ITS FINE" |
PlanetsideTwo F2PonPS4
Condotta Rouvenor
Gallente Federation
1
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Posted - 2013.06.21 21:02:00 -
[92] - Quote
Chilled Pill wrote:Not sure if thread is full of win or fail....
....OP is a win, the resulting thread vomit makes me want to face'palm' the earth. (or should it be face'earth')
Facepalm thread. |
Stupid Blueberry
Nova Corps Marines
Ishuk-Raata Enforcement Directive
17
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Posted - 2013.06.21 21:13:00 -
[93] - Quote
I don't know if OP knows this or not, but the hit detection on those charge shots is about 40/60 in my experience. |
Stupid Blueberry
Nova Corps Marines
Ishuk-Raata Enforcement Directive
17
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Posted - 2013.06.21 21:14:00 -
[94] - Quote
And then I read a post or two above mine  |
Mobius Wyvern
BetaMax.
CRONOS.
2040
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Posted - 2013.06.21 21:18:00 -
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hooc order wrote:OMFG!!!!
Shut up shut up shut up shut up!!!!
....
Planet side 2 can't come to the PS4 soon enough.
I'm gonna laugh my ass off when you finish downloading it, start playing, and realize what you should have all along.
SOE sucks, and everything they make sucks.
I want to find a way to be in your house when you first go 2 hours without a single fight and then get hit by a sniper over a kilometer away.
Then you will know my pain. |
Tuna the Fish
The Southern Legion
RISE of LEGION
31
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Posted - 2013.06.21 21:49:00 -
[96] - Quote
I just have to congratulate you OP. Brilliantly done! Although, it is disheartening to see how many people will argue with someone without taking the time to fully understand what they are saying.
Disheartening, but not surprising. |
Dao Ferret
BetaMax.
CRONOS.
84
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Posted - 2013.06.21 22:07:00 -
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Aesiron Kor-Azor wrote:IRuby Heart wrote:I wish you weren't so bad at the game, then you could see how completely stupid your arguement is. 'Acronyms' being the key term here -_-, I thought I made it bleedin' obvious without having to say.
I'm not sure you know what the term Acronym means either.
Technically it isn't an Acronym, the word you are looking for is Acrostic.
That might be part of what has confused people ... then again, a lot of people just look a the title, skim the original parent, and then spew a response without really reading the comments or thread ... like I'm doing now!
(purely to demonstrate ... really) |
KING CHECKMATE
A.N.O.N.Y.M.O.U.S.
ROFL BROS
117
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Posted - 2013.06.21 22:26:00 -
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Aesiron Kor-Azor wrote:... and it is OP if used right....
EVERY WEAPON is supposed to be OP if used right.i Literally FACEPALMED when i read this. I dont even use Scrambler rifles anymore and broski you are whinning about nothing.
How do you KNOW TAC AR were really OP? well, in a 14 man team there were 12 of them using TAC AR. I go days and dont see a scrambler rifle, and when i do like yesterday , i dont even feel it very OP. I still get killed more by Duvolle AR spammers than Scrambler R.
Sure, charged will 1HKO many of us, including me, but thats 1 SHOT for gods sake, 1 shot, and then the thing heats -+ of its capacity reducing amount of shots you have before overheating and getting FEEDBACK DAMAGE (another thing that makes previous TAC AR superior).
Sure the scrambler Rifle is a great weapon in the hands of a skilled player, but then again, almost any weapon is.
DONT Nerf the Godd***ed Scrambler rifle, stop nerfing s*it seriously. Get your game up.... |
Ninjanomyx
Imperfects
Negative-Feedback
79
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Posted - 2013.06.21 23:00:00 -
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Aesiron Kor-Azor wrote:Just recently there has been the infamous TAC AR nerf, although it did its duty, another problem remains.
One thing CCP do right, FINALLY, but I am sorry to report, there is yet ANOTHER issue which needs an instant nerf
Knowing how OP the TAC AR was, I recently paid attention to the Scrambler Rifle, and it is OP if used right...
I am probably going to get hated for this, but that Goddamn thing has like 500 damage if charged? LOL WHAT?!
Never has there been a better time for a nerf, this thing easily dominates every game mode, regardless of player skill.
Glad to know I am not the only one thinking this anyway, it is overpowering and I for one think it needs a serious nerf.
I am pleased that the Tac AR was nerfed, but all in CCPs faith, there is MORE work to be done.
Truth be told, the scrambler rifle was FAR worse off than the old TAC AR anyway.
So I am calling for a serious nerf here...
Five seconds is what it took to kill someone with the duvolle, but with this thing? ONE SECOND
I don't want to hate on CCP, they're going a great job, but there are some serious issues with this game.
No one else I know hasn't been affected by this assault sniper rifle.
Everyone is calling for a nerf, CCP, will YOU bring it upon us?
Plus I hope you know what an Acronym is.
You are my new favorite TC & Troll. Riddler invades DUST & I couldn't be happier :P All my Likes are belong to you. Better than the Game, hands down |
True Adamance
PIE Inc.
Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
212
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Posted - 2013.06.22 01:11:00 -
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Arrighty to put this to bed for all time
If you read the first ******* letter of each sentence his ultimate troll becomes apparent.
For all of you still too foolish to not have looked through this thread and seen all the guys explaining the joke to you it says.
"JOKING ITS FINE"!
He is not complaining he is cleverly explaining that his weapon of choice is okay. For all of you that said he was garbage at the game.....
YOU ARE ALL GARBAGE AT LIFE...... |
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The Loathing
The Southern Legion
RISE of LEGION
105
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Posted - 2013.06.22 02:27:00 -
[101] - Quote
Wow, the OP definitely proved his point.
THIS IS NOT A SCRAMBLER RIFLE THREAD, PEOPLE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
This is a definitive mirror on everyone who posts their opinion without reading the rest of the thread, and their narrow vision on what an author is ACTUALLY saying!
Frankly this is one of the best pranks on the forums I have seen. I did not see it at all when I read the OP, but I was patient enough to read some responses.
Congratulations Aesiron, your point was proven better than any other I have seen on these forums. It even taught me a lesson. |
Planetside2onPS4
Algintal Core
Gallente Federation
1
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Posted - 2013.06.22 08:35:00 -
[102] - Quote
My issues with the OP |
Matticus Monk
Ordus Trismegistus
62
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Posted - 2013.06.22 08:49:00 -
[103] - Quote
Good show OP, it took me a while to see this and the Acronym thing being incorrect threw me a bit because I couldn't see the relevance of that statement, but that can all be forgiven for the creativity. |
Your Absolut End
Neanderthal Nation
103
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Posted - 2013.06.22 09:51:00 -
[104] - Quote
Aesiron Kor-Azor wrote:Just recently there has been the infamous TAC AR nerf, although it did its duty, another problem remains.
One thing CCP do right, FINALLY, but I am sorry to report, there is yet ANOTHER issue which needs an instant nerf
Knowing how OP the TAC AR was, I recently paid attention to the Scrambler Rifle, and it is OP if used right...
I am probably going to get hated for this, but that Goddamn thing has like 500 damage if charged? LOL WHAT?!
Never has there been a better time for a nerf, this thing easily dominates every game mode, regardless of player skill.
Glad to know I am not the only one thinking this anyway, it is overpowering and I for one think it needs a serious nerf.
I am pleased that the Tac AR was nerfed, but all in CCPs faith, there is MORE work to be done.
Truth be told, the scrambler rifle was FAR worse off than the old TAC AR anyway.
So I am calling for a serious nerf here...
Five seconds is what it took to kill someone with the duvolle, but with this thing? ONE SECOND
I don't want to hate on CCP, they're going a great job, but there are some serious issues with this game.
No one else I know hasn't been affected by this assault sniper rifle.
Everyone is calling for a nerf, CCP, will YOU bring it upon us?
Plus I hope you know what an Acronym is.
Before you start a threat like this:
Did you use the weapon?
I'm using it since my respec, and yeah, I am doing good NOW. But it takes alot of training to get used to this weapon.
Please guys, TRY weapons before posting this ****. You guys killed the LR with this BS.
I used the TAC, and I knew it was OP, because I could tell from experience.
The charged shot on the SCR is useful for sure, but this doesn't make this weapon OP, because if you f*** this shot up, your dead, simple as that.
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Imp Smash
Seraphim Auxiliaries
CRONOS.
137
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Posted - 2013.06.22 10:52:00 -
[105] - Quote
Bumping this thread. Funny! |
Ray Poe
Algintal Core
Gallente Federation
0
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Posted - 2013.06.22 18:25:00 -
[106] - Quote
Bump for funnies |
Aesiron Kor-Azor
Amarr Templars
Amarr Empire
325
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Posted - 2013.09.01 13:23:00 -
[107] - Quote
Heck, I might give this a timely bump to remind the world of fairness and justice. |
Takahiro Kashuken
Red Star.
EoN.
1172
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Posted - 2013.09.01 13:29:00 -
[108] - Quote
OP because it requires aim
Good joke |
Korvin Lomont
United Pwnage Service
RISE of LEGION
114
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Posted - 2013.09.01 13:30:00 -
[109] - Quote
KAGEHOSHI Horned Wolf wrote:In the 2 seconds it takes to charge, the assault rifle can deal 850 damage.
34 damage x 750 RPM / 60 = 425 per second x 2 = 850 for 2 seconds
Your argument is bad, it is still outclassed in DPS.
Hmm last time I checked the SR can go up to 900 DPS when used without the charge the only thing that keeps teh SR in line is the overheating mechanic. And honestly the overheating fits better to the Plasma/Gallente AR than it fits the SR. I always wondered why the SR does overheat while the Scrambler Pistol does not...
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Boxoffire
Ninth Legion Freelance
Top Men.
71
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Posted - 2013.09.01 13:50:00 -
[110] - Quote
If you are lucky to get a hit, and even if you do, good luck spraying immediately after without over heating your gun. Stop whining please, have some experience with something before accusing it to be OP. |
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Boxoffire
Ninth Legion Freelance
Top Men.
71
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Posted - 2013.09.01 13:59:00 -
[111] - Quote
Driftward wrote:Everyone take a step back. Breath. And look back at the OP. Read horizontally. Then, read the vertical. Yep. they got you good.
I feel stupid xD |
Lorhak Gannarsein
DUST University
Ivy League
253
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Posted - 2013.09.01 14:01:00 -
[112] - Quote
Awesome troll is awesome!
+1 OP. |
Lillica Deathdealer
Mango and Friends
305
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Posted - 2013.09.01 14:04:00 -
[113] - Quote
Aesiron Kor-Azor wrote:I just made this to test how observant the haters and bashers really were, they rarely actually read your argument and just spout hatred.
Plus it was amusing :)
I said 'joking its fine' as an acronym.
the W and a few other letters threw me off when I was looking :( |
Roofer Madness
A.N.O.N.Y.M.O.U.S.
168
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Posted - 2013.09.01 14:04:00 -
[114] - Quote
This is hilarious. It doesn't even matter if you ruin the joke. People still keep falling for it over and over again. I just read the whole thread. Mmmmmmmmm. |
Harpyja
DUST University
Ivy League
560
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Posted - 2013.09.01 14:09:00 -
[115] - Quote
KAGEHOSHI Horned Wolf wrote:In the 2 seconds it takes to charge, the assault rifle can deal 850 damage.
34 damage x 750 RPM / 60 = 425 per second x 2 = 850 for 2 seconds
Your argument is bad, it is still outclassed in DPS.
The charge is only good for alpha damage. Otherwise, it is out-DPS'ed, like you explained |
Beeeees
KILL-EM-QUICK
RISE of LEGION
137
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Posted - 2013.09.01 14:44:00 -
[116] - Quote
Nearly got me. Props to ya. |
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