DUST Search - Scrambler Rifle

Aesiron Kor-Azor wrote:

Just recently there has been the infamous TAC AR nerf, although it did its duty, another problem remains.
One thing CCP do right, FINALLY, but I am sorry to report, there is yet ANOTHER issue which needs an instant nerf
Knowing how OP the TAC AR was, I recently paid attention to the Scrambler Rifle, and it is OP if used right...
I am probably going to get hated for this, but that Goddamn thing has like 500 damage if charged? LOL WHAT?!
Never has there been a better time for a nerf, this thing easily dominates every game mode, regardless of player skill.
Glad to know I am not the only one thinking this anyway, it is overpowering and I for one think it needs a serious nerf.

I am pleased that the Tac AR was nerfed, but all in CCPs faith, there is MORE work to be done.
Truth be told, the scrambler rifle was FAR worse off than the old TAC AR anyway.
So I am calling for a serious nerf here...

Five seconds is what it took to kill someone with the duvolle, but with this thing? ONE SECOND
I don't want to hate on CCP, they're going a great job, but there are some serious issues with this game.
No one else I know hasn't been affected by this assault sniper rifle.
Everyone is calling for a nerf, CCP, will YOU bring it upon us?

Plus I hope you know what an Acronym is.

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Colonel Killar DUST CORE DARKSTAR ARMY 12	Posted - 2013.06.19 16:34:00 - [61] - Quote Lance 2ballzStrong wrote: I can't believe people are saying the SR is OP... In ALL the games I've played in PC, the SR has to be the weapon that killed me the least amount of times. Wanna know what weapons are the best? PLAY PLANETARY CONQUEST. I get killed by AR's, Flaylock pistols, Sniper Rifles, shoguns, Nades... getting killed by an SR is lulz tbh. So rarely it happens. And how many Tanks, Assault/Logi Dropships, have you seen? Just wondering or maybe these people (sorry to anyone who actually specced into real AV) are right Tanks are still OP to these Pub match wussies
Zahle Undt the tritan industries RISE of LEGION 225	Posted - 2013.06.19 17:16:00 - [62] - Quote Aesiron Kor-Azor wrote: Just recently there has been the infamous TAC AR nerf, although it did its duty, another problem remains. One thing CCP do right, FINALLY, but I am sorry to report, there is yet ANOTHER issue which needs an instant nerf Knowing how OP the TAC AR was, I recently paid attention to the Scrambler Rifle, and it is OP if used right... I am probably going to get hated for this, but that Goddamn thing has like 500 damage if charged? LOL WHAT?! Never has there been a better time for a nerf, this thing easily dominates every game mode, regardless of player skill. Glad to know I am not the only one thinking this anyway, it is overpowering and I for one think it needs a serious nerf. I am pleased that the Tac AR was nerfed, but all in CCPs faith, there is MORE work to be done. Truth be told, the scrambler rifle was FAR worse off than the old TAC AR anyway. So I am calling for a serious nerf here... Five seconds is what it took to kill someone with the duvolle, but with this thing? ONE SECOND I don't want to hate on CCP, they're going a great job, but there are some serious issues with this game. No one else I know hasn't been affected by this assault sniper rifle. Everyone is calling for a nerf, CCP, will YOU bring it upon us? Plus I hope you know what an Acronym is. A fine troll dear OP and I feel slow for not seeing it myself. Here I was trying to string your caps within your post.
Doyle Reese OSG Planetary Operations Covert Intervention 151	Posted - 2013.06.19 17:34:00 - [63] - Quote I heard from other SR users that there is a bug where the SR does bonus to shield but there is no damage penalty to armor (like it should)
Fearless Speech Villore Sec Ops Gallente Federation 3	Posted - 2013.06.19 17:41:00 - [64] - Quote Zahle Undt wrote: A fine troll dear OP and I feel slow for not seeing it myself. Here I was trying to string your caps within your post. The CPM missed it too. Which is a million lols.
Sleepy Zan Shape Entirety 2303	Posted - 2013.06.19 17:51:00 - [65] - Quote Aesiron Kor-Azor wrote: Scrambler Rifle, and it is OP if used right... Aesiron Kor-Azor wrote: Scrambler Rifle, and it is OP if used right... Aesiron Kor-Azor wrote: Scrambler Rifle, and it is OP if used right... Aesiron Kor-Azor wrote: Scrambler Rifle, and it is OP if used right... Aesiron Kor-Azor wrote: Scrambler Rifle, and it is OP if used right...
Darken-Sol BIG BAD W0LVES Eternal Syndicate 312	Posted - 2013.06.19 17:54:00 - [66] - Quote Aesiron Kor-Azor wrote: Anita Hardone wrote: In the time it takes to charge aim and fire (and hope you hit) you could do the same amount of damage with another weapon. It also has HMG range.... None of this is true as far as my play with it is concerned, I can hit AR users and own them easily, but the charge time is pretty irrelevant because you can dip in and out of combat at will. Its because everyone is sheild tanking. Stupid FOTM. Too bad you wasted your respec on shields. +1 for scrams
Aisha Ctarl The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar DARKSTAR ARMY 287	Posted - 2013.06.19 18:16:00 - [67] - Quote The Scrambler Rifles are fine. They are designed like most Amarr weapons to be highly effective against shields. The sudden vanishing of shields cause people to think that the SCR's have an abnormally high DPS which is not the case because once they get into armor, the SCR's truly begin to struggle. Fully specced into with SCR V, Proficiency V, and Enhanced or Complex Damage mods, the SCR's are quite deadly and can easily kill quicker than the TAC, Duvolle AR, or GEK, but they are NOT OP. For one, they overheat and give feedback damage which can kill the user if they aren't paying attention to the head build up or their health. The reason the SCR may FEEL OP is because the major nerf to the TAC was not the clip size, but the ROF reduction. No longer can one spam R1 on the TAC and out DPS everything on the battlefield, but with the SCR you can. The ROF on the SCR is 750 or 780 RPM I believe, so with negligible recoil and the high ROF, the SCR comes off as OP....you just have to keep in mind its downsides.
Johnny Guilt Algintal Core Gallente Federation 112	Posted - 2013.06.19 18:21:00 - [68] - Quote Without reading the whole thread it's the KBM ******* up balance again isn't it?along with the heatbuildup
rebecca watson OSG Planetary Operations Covert Intervention 65	Posted - 2013.06.19 20:42:00 - [69] - Quote Good lord, I can't believe you guys can't see how overpowered this weapon is. Original poster tried to point it out for everyone, but apparantly he can't quite get it through to you all. One shot people!!! One shot 500hp?? How is this not overpowered? Direct hit, boom, if the other guy isn't dead, then a couple follow up shots and it's over. One thing I don't understand, is how everyone else isn't using this already, It's good in CQC too. New nerfs are needed sometimes, especially when people can't read forum threads thoroughly. Every time people try to point something out, they get shot down, mostly because no one takes the time to read.
Commander Tuna KILL-EM-QUICK RISE of LEGION 62	Posted - 2013.06.19 20:58:00 - [70] - Quote rebecca watson wrote: Good lord, I can't believe you guys can't see how overpowered this weapon is. Original poster tried to point it out for everyone, but apparantly he can't quite get it through to you all. One shot people!!! One shot 500hp?? How is this not overpowered? Direct hit, boom, if the other guy isn't dead, then a couple follow up shots and it's over. One thing I don't understand, is how everyone else isn't using this already, It's good in CQC too. New nerfs are needed sometimes, especially when people can't read forum threads thoroughly. Every time people try to point something out, they get shot down, mostly because no one takes the time to read. Not sure if.......... 0/10.

General Technique Vherokior Combat Logistics Minmatar Republic 57	Posted - 2013.06.19 21:04:00 - [71] - Quote Dust514 - "Derps feeding trolls"
RoundEy3 Metal Mind Industries 109	Posted - 2013.06.19 21:06:00 - [72] - Quote Funny I always thought scrambler rifles were one of the weapon classes they got mostly right from the get go. Only exception being the skill bonus only affects one variant. I've been killed by them and use them and all seems good, don't ask for more mistakes when there were none to start with. If you want to say the charge damage is OP think of it like this, IF you miss with your charged shot you are at a severe disadvantage because you will not have enough remaining shots before overheat to kill most enemies. Not to mention all of the statistical points people like Kagehoshi(think I spelled it correctly) have put up about AR's and Scram's DON'T RUIN ANOTHER ENERGY WEAPON.....please
True Adamance PIE Inc. Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 209	Posted - 2013.06.19 21:14:00 - [73] - Quote RoundEy3 wrote: Funny I always thought scrambler rifles were one of the weapon classes they got mostly right from the get go. Only exception being the skill bonus only affects one variant. I've been killed by them and use them and all seems good, don't ask for more mistakes when there were none to start with. If you want to say the charge damage is OP think of it like this, IF you miss with your charged shot you are at a severe disadvantage because you will not have enough remaining shots before overheat to kill most enemies. Not to mention all of the statistical points people like Kagehoshi(think I spelled it correctly) have put up about AR's and Scram's DON'T RUIN ANOTHER ENERGY WEAPON.....please You didn't see the acronym in the OP did you? Read vertically every first letter of the sentences..... I cannot believe this got another one.
RoundEy3 Metal Mind Industries 109	Posted - 2013.06.19 21:16:00 - [74] - Quote I know the OP is a joke, but along the line there are people that will flock to this and mindlessly agree with it because they've been killed by scrams.
Kiro Justice the tritan industries RISE of LEGION 117	Posted - 2013.06.19 21:49:00 - [75] - Quote In what world is the SR overpowered? Are you a nerf brigade? Is it your job to see everything get nerfed? Seriously, the shots go DIRECTLY where you place them, so you can't even spray and pray, not to mention that it's one of the few guns in this game that can kill it's operator so you will lose MANY a heated firefight due to that. Seriously, I can't count the times I "Committed Suicide" right when I was about to put that last shot to my enemy, all because of overheat! In short - The weapon isn't overpowered, you're just a noob, HTFU, GET GUD.
St Evilsbitch HavoK Core RISE of LEGION 87	Posted - 2013.06.19 21:50:00 - [76] - Quote Aesiron Kor-Azor wrote: Just recently there has been the infamous TAC AR nerf, although it did its duty, another problem remains. One thing CCP do right, FINALLY, but I am sorry to report, there is yet ANOTHER issue which needs an instant nerf Knowing how OP the TAC AR was, I recently paid attention to the Scrambler Rifle, and it is OP if used right... I am probably going to get hated for this, but that Goddamn thing has like 500 damage if charged? LOL WHAT?! Never has there been a better time for a nerf, this thing easily dominates every game mode, regardless of player skill. Glad to know I am not the only one thinking this anyway, it is overpowering and I for one think it needs a serious nerf. I am pleased that the Tac AR was nerfed, but all in CCPs faith, there is MORE work to be done. Truth be told, the scrambler rifle was FAR worse off than the old TAC AR anyway. So I am calling for a serious nerf here... Five seconds is what it took to kill someone with the duvolle, but with this thing? ONE SECOND I don't want to hate on CCP, they're going a great job, but there are some serious issues with this game. No one else I know hasn't been affected by this assault sniper rifle. Everyone is calling for a nerf, CCP, will YOU bring it upon us? Plus I hope you know what an Acronym is. Please read only underlined text. +1 TO OP
Xender17 Intrepidus XI Omega Commission 176	Posted - 2013.06.19 21:54:00 - [77] - Quote Everything is "OP" if used "right".
Leither Yiltron KILL-EM-QUICK RISE of LEGION 544	Posted - 2013.06.20 01:40:00 - [78] - Quote Deleted
A-P-P-Baby KILL-EM-QUICK RISE of LEGION 2	Posted - 2013.06.20 01:46:00 - [79] - Quote Leither Yiltron wrote: Deleted smooth move
Disturbingly Bored The Strontium Asylum 290	Posted - 2013.06.20 01:59:00 - [80] - Quote Aesiron Kor-Azor wrote: Plus I hope you know what an Acronym is. Not to be the sole English nerd here, but technically, it's an Acrostic. ED: And +1 for writing an Acrostic troll thread on a gaming forum. ED2: Dammit, I am so late to this party. OP is 6.06.13. -1 to me.

Abron Garr Amarr Templars Amarr Empire 519	Posted - 2013.06.20 02:15:00 - [81] - Quote CCP will think this is real.
PlanetSide2Bomber Edimmu Warfighters Gallente Federation 1	Posted - 2013.06.20 03:08:00 - [82] - Quote Be your own Judge. What game looks like more fun to you? Dust.........Or this......... Planetside 2 Coming to PS4 this year Insane Infantry Push Amazing Night Battle Night to Day Canyon Battle Intense Field Battle Desert Infantry Line Huge Desert Tank Battle 100 Tank Convoy 150 man Air Raid 65/0 Kill streak in the air NC Montage Factions Explained
Sasseros One-Armed Bandits 0	Posted - 2013.06.20 03:14:00 - [83] - Quote ...Srambler Rifle is fine, if used correct with Head shots, even my Burst rifle is OP.
Terra Thesis HDYLTA Defiant Legacy 209	Posted - 2013.06.20 03:29:00 - [84] - Quote it's been so long since i've seen a proper, old school troll... wipes tear I amend my score to 7/10 + 1 point per page this thread reaches
Protocake JR Internal Error. Negative-Feedback 111	Posted - 2013.06.20 03:38:00 - [85] - Quote I only read the first page of this thread. I just wan't to congratulate nearly every poster in the first page for not being able to see the obvious. I feel embarrassed for all of you.
Aliakin Koreck Chatelain Rapid Response Gallente Federation 0	Posted - 2013.06.20 05:38:00 - [86] - Quote Turbo controllers are really messin with this game, even after the tacar
Chilled Pill Pro Hic Immortalis 102	Posted - 2013.06.20 06:35:00 - [87] - Quote Not sure if thread is full of win or fail.... ....OP is a win, the resulting thread vomit makes me want to face'palm' the earth. (or should it be face'earth')
Rei Shepard Spectre II 344	Posted - 2013.06.20 06:51:00 - [88] - Quote Aesiron Kor-Azor wrote: KAGEHOSHI Horned Wolf wrote: In the 2 seconds it takes to charge, the assault rifle can deal 850 damage. 34 damage x 750 RPM / 60 = 425 per second x 2 = 850 for 2 seconds Your argument is bad, it is still outclassed in DPS. You're forgetting that there's no recoil on the SR. A third of that damage won't even hit the target assuming he's blind enough to stand stil. You mean to say theres recoil on the AR's? How bad are you ? Go pick up APB R, get a Tommygun then get back to me about recoil because even that gun has near 0 recoil for me. Recoil and same gun used by someone who can control the recoil The scrambler charged up does around a 300 damage not 500 and yes will kill anyone in militia in a shot, need headshots for protos, but even then a smal burst on the head from any AR kills really fast and anyone not using the proto amarr suit cant really use the gun effeciently. The Tac was clearly OP, the SCR not so much, even my buddy tried it during the Tac reign as he saw me pwning with it, 1 hour later he was back at the Tac and is now playing AR 514 again.
Syther Shadows The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar DARKSTAR ARMY 143	Posted - 2013.06.20 09:13:00 - [89] - Quote Aesiron Kor-Azor wrote: Just recently there has been the infamous TAC AR nerf, although it did its duty, another problem remains. One thing CCP do right, FINALLY, but I am sorry to report, there is yet ANOTHER issue which needs an instant nerf Knowing how OP the TAC AR was, I recently paid attention to the Scrambler Rifle, and it is OP if used right... I am probably going to get hated for this, but that Goddamn thing has like 500 damage if charged? LOL WHAT?! Never has there been a better time for a nerf, this thing easily dominates every game mode, regardless of player skill. Glad to know I am not the only one thinking this anyway, it is overpowering and I for one think it needs a serious nerf. I am pleased that the Tac AR was nerfed, but all in CCPs faith, there is MORE work to be done. Truth be told, the scrambler rifle was FAR worse off than the old TAC AR anyway. So I am calling for a serious nerf here... Five seconds is what it took to kill someone with the duvolle, but with this thing? ONE SECOND I don't want to hate on CCP, they're going a great job, but there are some serious issues with this game. No one else I know hasn't been affected by this assault sniper rifle. Everyone is calling for a nerf, CCP, will YOU bring it upon us? Plus I hope you know what an Acronym is. and it is OP if used right... and it is OP if used right... and it is OP if used right... and it is OP if used right... and it is OP if used right... and it is OP if used right... OH IM SORRY IM NOT ALLOWED TO USE A WEAPON RIGHT OK THEN IM SORRY ILL STOP BEING A SKILLED PLAYER Yes its Fine just nerf my damage down to that of the ar so that you have your fully auto gunfire while i have my single tap THAT OVER HEATS AND BURNS YOU AND CAN RESULT IN SUICIDE IF YOUR CARELESS (question) have you even used the gun. ? (likely answer) NO (question) Did you know it does X4 on headshots (likely answer) NO (question) Did you hit some shield tanking scrub in the head with a fully charged shot ? (likely answer) Yes OMG DIS GUN OP ERRMMAAGGERRRD. You don't even get the fully auto variant until you get lv 4 i think..... please just stop now start using the weapon and tell me its op when you have to ADS just to hit anything...
Mikael Murray Kameira Lodge Amarr Empire 0	Posted - 2013.06.20 22:57:00 - [90] - Quote Protocake JR wrote: I only read the first page of this thread. I just wan't to congratulate nearly every poster in the first page for not being able to see the obvious. I feel embarrassed for all of you. What are you referring to?



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