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Aesiron Kor-Azor
Amarr Templars Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2013.06.06 19:16:00 -
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I just made this to test how observant the haters and bashers really were, they rarely actually read your argument and just spout hatred.
Plus it was amusing :)
I said 'joking its fine' as an acronym. |
Carter Raynor
The Generals EoN.
24
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Posted - 2013.06.06 19:26:00 -
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OP, you obviously have no idea what the SR is about. Go play with it, and you will see why it's BALANCED. Everyone is crying about any weapon that kills them by a better player, seriously go away. |
Surt gods end
Demon Ronin
220
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Posted - 2013.06.06 19:30:00 -
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Ladies are OP. How they are able to get me to give them their way, is astounding. |
True Adamance
Ametat Security Amarr Empire
78
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Posted - 2013.06.06 19:31:00 -
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Carter Raynor wrote:OP, you obviously have no idea what the SR is about. Go play with it, and you will see why it's BALANCED. Everyone is crying about any weapon that kills them by a better player, seriously go away.
Uh this guy your telling to go away is one of the few proponents of prop Amarr love on this forum..... talking to a member of the Kor-Azor family like that is grounds for immeadiate execution.
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Zatara Rought
TeamPlayers EoN.
169
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Posted - 2013.06.06 19:33:00 -
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This guy should go biomass himself. -1 OP. |
Lilah Silverstone
The Arrow Project
65
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Posted - 2013.06.06 19:36:00 -
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Aesiron Kor-Azor wrote:I just made this to test how observant the haters and bashers really were, they rarely actually read your argument and just spout hatred.
Plus it was amusing :)
I said 'joking its fine' as an acronym.
10/10 would read again. |
Camp Day
Shining Flame Amarr Empire
0
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Posted - 2013.06.06 19:39:00 -
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We gotta start a isk pool of what the next possible nerf is...............
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True Adamance
Ametat Security Amarr Empire
79
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Posted - 2013.06.06 19:45:00 -
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How can these people not notice the obvious trick to the OP? |
Sev Alcatraz
The Tritan Industries RISE of LEGION
268
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Posted - 2013.06.06 20:00:00 -
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charge it and get a headshot, I use the Imperial scrambler rifle and 1 in 10 shots (charged is an instant kill/head shot)
The SCR is not over power as it takes skill and practice to use correctly, before you go and start Crying nerf think about how long someone has been using it.
The TAC was OP because anyone could pick it up and be god, Pick up a scramble rifle and try and do the same, it won't happen, the gun is longer and has a lot of sway when aiming down the slight the slightest movement will throw you off.
I have been using the cartham scr for a week now and im just getting good at using it, I picked up a Proto TAC and was an instant god
no nerf needed it is not op |
noob cavman
Shadow Company HQ
14
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Posted - 2013.06.06 20:12:00 -
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Im guessing most of you don't read after the first post.... |
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Your Absolut End
SVER True Blood Unclaimed.
92
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Posted - 2013.06.06 20:25:00 -
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True Adamance wrote:Aesiron Kor-Azor wrote:Just recently there has been the infamous TAC AR nerf, although it did its duty, another problem remains. One thing CCP do right, FINALLY, but I am sorry to report, there is yet ANOTHER issue which needs an instant nerf Knowing how OP the TAC AR was, I recently paid attention to the Scrambler Rifle, and it is OP if used right... I am probably going to get hated for this, but that Goddamn thing has like 500 damage if charged? LOL WHAT?! Never has there been a better time for a nerf, this thing easily dominates every game mode, regardless of player skill. Glad to know I am not the only one thinking this anyway, it is overpowering and I for one think it needs a serious nerf.
I am pleased that the Tac AR was nerfed, but all in CCPs faith, there is MORE work to be done. Truth be told, the scrambler rifle was FAR worse off than the old TAC AR anyway. So I am calling for a serious nerf here...
Five seconds is what it took to kill someone with the duvolle, but with this thing? ONE SECOND I don't want to hate on CCP, they're going a great job, but there are some serious issues with this game. No one else I know hasn't been affected by this assault sniper rifle. Everyone is calling for a nerf, CCP, will YOU bring it upon us?
Plus I hope you know what an Acronym is. MOst intelligent thread on this forum ever!
Dude this blasts my head
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Surt gods end
Demon Ronin
220
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Posted - 2013.06.06 20:26:00 -
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STEALTH OP
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DeadlyAztec11
Mannar Focused Warfare Gallente Federation
518
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Posted - 2013.06.19 13:48:00 -
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Scheneighnay McBob wrote:2 builds ago, I used scrambler pistols exclusively for a while, so I know the massive potential that scrambler rifles have when used correctly.
As always, the community is always oblivious to the power of everything except the FOTM. Scrambler Pistol > Scrambler rifle. I can take down a proto assault suit in one to two head shots with the,pistol, with the rifle I would have to charge up to deal the same damage. |
iceyburnz
Crux Special Tasks Group Gallente Federation
811
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Posted - 2013.06.19 14:04:00 -
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You blew my mind. |
Midas Fool
Kirkinen Risk Control Caldari State
29
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Posted - 2013.06.19 14:22:00 -
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Oh damn the responses to this suddenly explain everything that's wrong with the community
Good stuff OP. Nice try forum warriors. |
J-Lewis
Edimmu Warfighters Gallente Federation
154
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Posted - 2013.06.19 14:31:00 -
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The only nerf the scrambler rifle might need is increased ammo consumption for charged shots (it's a battery after all). |
Cinaed Corvus
Kameira Lodge Amarr Empire
14
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Posted - 2013.06.19 14:41:00 -
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Aesiron Kor-Azor wrote:Just recently there has been the infamous TAC AR nerf, although it did its duty, another problem remains. One thing CCP do right, FINALLY, but I am sorry to report, there is yet ANOTHER issue which needs an instant nerf Knowing how OP the TAC AR was, I recently paid attention to the Scrambler Rifle, and it is OP if used right... I am probably going to get hated for this, but that Goddamn thing has like 500 damage if charged? LOL WHAT?! Never has there been a better time for a nerf, this thing easily dominates every game mode, regardless of player skill. Glad to know I am not the only one thinking this anyway, it is overpowering and I for one think it needs a serious nerf.
I am pleased that the Tac AR was nerfed, but all in CCPs faith, there is MORE work to be done. Truth be told, the scrambler rifle was FAR worse off than the old TAC AR anyway. So I am calling for a serious nerf here...
Five seconds is what it took to kill someone with the duvolle, but with this thing? ONE SECOND I don't want to hate on CCP, they're going a great job, but there are some serious issues with this game. No one else I know hasn't been affected by this assault sniper rifle. Everyone is calling for a nerf, CCP, will YOU bring it upon us?
Plus I hope you know what an Acronym is.
Hey, next thing you'll want mo nerf the sniper rifle. HTFU and get some gun game. The Scrambler takes skill especially with the optimal range that is crap.
For someone who seems to be role playing as an Amarr, you seem to REALLY hate on a weapon of the empress's design to bring about the reclaiming. Yet another person who cannot use a piece of equipment so just wants it nerved.
The scrambler rifle is fine, and if anything else, still needs a max and optimal range buff if it is to be kept within the premise of EVE tech lore. |
Daxxis KANNAH
Tronhadar Free Guard Minmatar Republic
99
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Posted - 2013.06.19 14:42:00 -
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J-Lewis wrote:The only nerf the scrambler rifle might need is increased ammo consumption for charged shots (it's a battery after all).
Also, the issue that was reported about the rifle not working as it was envisioned - the faster you fire, the quicker the rifle should overheat.
CCP should speak on that though, if its working as intended then that doesnt need to be addressed. |
Terra Thesis
HDYLTA Defiant Legacy
193
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Posted - 2013.06.19 14:46:00 -
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9/10 |
Severance Pay
Purgatorium of the Damned League of Infamy
399
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Posted - 2013.06.19 14:53:00 -
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Aesiron Kor-Azor wrote:Just recently there has been the infamous TAC AR nerf, although it did its duty, another problem remains. One thing CCP do right, FINALLY, but I am sorry to report, there is yet ANOTHER issue which needs an instant nerf Knowing how OP the TAC AR was, I recently paid attention to the Scrambler Rifle, and it is OP if used right... I am probably going to get hated for this, but that Goddamn thing has like 500 damage if charged? LOL WHAT?! Never has there been a better time for a nerf, this thing easily dominates every game mode, regardless of player skill. Glad to know I am not the only one thinking this anyway, it is overpowering and I for one think it needs a serious nerf.
I am pleased that the Tac AR was nerfed, but all in CCPs faith, there is MORE work to be done. Truth be told, the scrambler rifle was FAR worse off than the old TAC AR anyway. So I am calling for a serious nerf here...
Five seconds is what it took to kill someone with the duvolle, but with this thing? ONE SECOND I don't want to hate on CCP, they're going a great job, but there are some serious issues with this game. No one else I know hasn't been affected by this assault sniper rifle.
Everyone is calling for a nerf, CCP, will YOU bring it upon us?
Plus I hope you know what an Acronym is. Forge gun does 1500 dmg when charged. Should we nerf it? PLC does 1100 dmg. Should we nerf that? Hell PLC does 300 dmg from splash in 0.6 sec charge, this way overpowers scrambler.
By your logic I would say scrambler rifle needs a buff. It clearly sux. |
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Laurent Cazaderon
What The French CRONOS.
1604
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Posted - 2013.06.19 14:56:00 -
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Scrambler rifles are fine.
They over heat, landing that one charged shot is not that easy. They dont have as much range as the tac had. Etc...
Bottom line, it's fine. |
Marston VC
SVER True Blood Public Disorder.
295
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Posted - 2013.06.19 15:06:00 -
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KAGEHOSHI Horned Wolf wrote:In the 2 seconds it takes to charge, the assault rifle can deal 850 damage. 34 damage x 750 RPM / 60 = 425 per second x 2 = 850 for 2 seconds
Your argument is bad, it is still outclassed in DPS.
Your confusing total DPS over time with the Total Up front damage the SR can do. Not that it matters I don't think the OPs post has any real argument behind it anyway. Lol, what if you miss the first shot right? |
Byozuma Kegawa
Shining Flame Amarr Empire
136
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Posted - 2013.06.19 15:54:00 -
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We may get it, people posting here may eventually get it, but the question at hand is will CCP get it? Understand, people have been complaining about the scrambler rifle ever since the tactical assault rifle got nerfed, seriously complaining. This looks like every other complaint thread so one hopes that CCP sees the joke. Also, I still don't know how to use a scrambler rifle correctly... |
IrishWebster
Algintal Core Gallente Federation
22
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Posted - 2013.06.19 16:03:00 -
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Aesiron Kor-Azor wrote:Just recently there has been the infamous TAC AR nerf, although it did its duty, another problem remains. One thing CCP do right, FINALLY, but I am sorry to report, there is yet ANOTHER issue which needs an instant nerf Knowing how OP the TAC AR was, I recently paid attention to the Scrambler Rifle, and it is OP if used right... I am probably going to get hated for this, but that Goddamn thing has like 500 damage if charged? LOL WHAT?! Never has there been a better time for a nerf, this thing easily dominates every game mode, regardless of player skill. Glad to know I am not the only one thinking this anyway, it is overpowering and I for one think it needs a serious nerf.
I am pleased that the Tac AR was nerfed, but all in CCPs faith, there is MORE work to be done. Truth be told, the scrambler rifle was FAR worse off than the old TAC AR anyway. So I am calling for a serious nerf here...
Five seconds is what it took to kill someone with the duvolle, but with this thing? ONE SECOND I don't want to hate on CCP, they're going a great job, but there are some serious issues with this game. No one else I know hasn't been affected by this assault sniper rifle. Everyone is calling for a nerf, CCP, will YOU bring it upon us?
Plus I hope you know what an Acronym is.
... WAAAAAH!! Wah wah WAAAAAHHHHH!!
^^^ The sound my 9 month old daughter makes when I take her toy and tell her it's nap time. Funny thing is... she's nine months old, and already starting to grow out of crying.
When will you?
The scrambler rifle is fine. I've personally seen it blow up half as many people as have managed to kill me with it. Admittedly, it's funny as HELL. There SHOULD be a ridiculous amount of damage coming out of that thing, for the risk of simply using it. It takes a LOT of skill to fight effectively with that weapon. They might get off one shot of 500 damage, but believe me... they won't be engaging another target for a few seconds. They're basically naked in the arctic with a lighter for warmth, dude.
Trust me, they're fine. |
ZDub 303
TeamPlayers EoN.
419
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Posted - 2013.06.19 16:14:00 -
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The scrambler is actually quite balanced. It only does 500 damage on a charged headshot with an imperial. That is fairly difficult to do to a moving target, esp with this games awful hit detection.
Otherwise, landing a charged body shot is ~350 I think? Thats tankable by a proto or even advanced suit.
If anything, armor tanking needs a buff to be more resilient, cause my adv logi shield build can take that in the few instances it does happen.
Also, using the charged shot puts you in a bad position in terms of overheat, and you have to land the next 4-5 shots out of 9 that you get to get the kill.
I do believe optimal range should remain where it is, charged shot + damage fall off is going to be potent, and make this a long range beast in the right hands. |
Zatara Rought
TeamPlayers EoN.
246
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Posted - 2013.06.19 16:24:00 -
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Marston VC wrote:KAGEHOSHI Horned Wolf wrote:In the 2 seconds it takes to charge, the assault rifle can deal 850 damage. 34 damage x 750 RPM / 60 = 425 per second x 2 = 850 for 2 seconds
Your argument is bad, it is still outclassed in DPS. Your confusing total DPS over time with the Total Up front damage the SR can do. Not that it matters I don't think the OPs post has any real argument behind it anyway. Lol, what if you miss the first shot right?
I do not think it is OP. It's fine. On these points though you also must consider the SR can charge and walk around right? Furthermore you can use cover preventing damage from being inflicted while the ar must be exposed for loner periods of time in order to inflict similar damage. The immediacy of the damage can be disorienting. |
Zatara Rought
TeamPlayers EoN.
246
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Posted - 2013.06.19 16:24:00 -
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ZDub 303 wrote:The scrambler is actually quite balanced. It only does 500 damage on a charged headshot with an imperial. That is fairly difficult to do to a moving target, esp with this games awful hit detection.
Otherwise, landing a charged body shot is ~350 I think? Thats tankable by a proto or even advanced suit.
If anything, armor tanking needs a buff to be more resilient, cause my adv logi shield build can take that in the few instances it does happen.
Also, using the charged shot puts you in a bad position in terms of overheat, and you have to land the next 4-5 shots out of 9 that you get to get the kill.
I do believe optimal range should remain where it is, charged shot + damage fall off is going to be potent, and make this a long range beast in the right hands.
My quadruple proto uplink fit only has 400 hp >.< |
Fearless Speech
Villore Sec Ops Gallente Federation
3
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Posted - 2013.06.19 16:29:00 -
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Aesiron Kor-Azor wrote:Just recently there has been the infamous TAC AR nerf, although it did its duty, another problem remains. One thing CCP do right, FINALLY, but I am sorry to report, there is yet ANOTHER issue which needs an instant nerf Knowing how OP the TAC AR was, I recently paid attention to the Scrambler Rifle, and it is OP if used right... I am probably going to get hated for this, but that Goddamn thing has like 500 damage if charged? LOL WHAT?! Never has there been a better time for a nerf, this thing easily dominates every game mode, regardless of player skill. Glad to know I am not the only one thinking this anyway, it is overpowering and I for one think it needs a serious nerf.
I am pleased that the Tac AR was nerfed, but all in CCPs faith, there is MORE work to be done. Truth be told, the scrambler rifle was FAR worse off than the old TAC AR anyway. So I am calling for a serious nerf here...
Five seconds is what it took to kill someone with the duvolle, but with this thing? ONE SECOND I don't want to hate on CCP, they're going a great job, but there are some serious issues with this game. No one else I know hasn't been affected by this assault sniper rifle. Everyone is calling for a nerf, CCP, will YOU bring it upon us?
Plus I hope you know what an Acronym is.
I think you are everything that is wrong with this, and really every, fps community.
Lately, every time I open the froums its full of peopel constantly complaining about how the game works. Of course you think the SR is OP. You probably ran around in your AR build and lost a strafe fight. Now you're all "SR Very OP CUS I AM TOO GOOD TO FAIL. I don't even feel the need to fight your arguement with numbers, I think Everyone who reads this will isntantly realize how dumb you are and CCP wont listen to this.
You should just go back to what ever game you normally play thats really just all ARs all the time with aim assist thats so Omnipresent you can't miss and feel its "balanced" because everyone you look at dies. A shame that you don't see how Unusually ambitious Dust is and how amazing the game could one day be.
Otherwise, just stay off the froums and let those of us who enjoy the game have a place to talk about enjoying and Playing rather than having to wade through endless drivel and negativity. |
Colonel Killar
DUST CORE DARKSTAR ARMY
11
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Posted - 2013.06.19 16:30:00 -
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hooc order wrote:OMFG!!!!
Shut up shut up shut up shut up!!!!
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Planet side 2 can't come to the PS4 soon enough. Credit card to win, Grindfest, or Zerg tactics. How would you like your arguement destroyed? |
Midas Fool
Kirkinen Risk Control Caldari State
36
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Posted - 2013.06.19 16:34:00 -
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PEOPLE
OH ****
READ THE DAMN POST AGAIN
CAREFULLY THIS TIME
READ SOME RESPONSES
PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE
YOU CAN DO THIS |
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