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Aesiron Kor-Azor
Amarr Templars Amarr Empire
215
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Posted - 2013.06.06 18:33:00 -
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Just recently there has been the infamous TAC AR nerf, although it did its duty, another problem remains. One thing CCP do right, FINALLY, but I am sorry to report, there is yet ANOTHER issue which needs an instant nerf, NOW. Knowing how OP the TAC AR was, I recently paid attention to the Scrambler Rifle, and it is obscenely overpowered if used right.. I am probably going to get hated for this, but that Goddamn thing has like 500 damage if charged? LOL WHAT?! Seriously!!! Never has there been a better time for a nerf, this thing easily dominates every game mode, regardless of player skill. Glad to know I am not the only one thinking this anyway, it is obscenely overpowering and I for one think it needs a serious nerf. |
Anita Hardone
Fraternity of St. Venefice Amarr Empire
29
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Posted - 2013.06.06 18:35:00 -
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In the time it takes to charge aim and fire (and hope you hit) you could do the same amount of damage with another weapon. It also has HMG range.... |
xjumpman23
Royal Uhlans Amarr Empire
263
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Posted - 2013.06.06 18:36:00 -
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carebear514 |
Sinboto Simmons
SVER True Blood Unclaimed.
205
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Posted - 2013.06.06 18:36:00 -
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I'm a minny scout so I'm not allowed to comment :(
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KAGEHOSHI Horned Wolf
Seraphim Initiative. CRONOS.
4225
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Posted - 2013.06.06 18:40:00 -
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In the 2 seconds it takes to charge, the assault rifle can deal 850 damage. 34 damage x 750 RPM / 60 = 425 per second x 2 = 850 for 2 seconds
Your argument is bad, it is still outclassed in DPS. |
Aesiron Kor-Azor
Amarr Templars Amarr Empire
215
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Posted - 2013.06.06 18:41:00 -
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Anita Hardone wrote:In the time it takes to charge aim and fire (and hope you hit) you could do the same amount of damage with another weapon. It also has HMG range....
None of this is true as far as my play with it is concerned, I can hit AR users and own them easily, but the charge time is pretty irrelevant because you can dip in and out of combat at will. |
Vin Vicious
Sinq Laison Gendarmes Gallente Federation
124
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Posted - 2013.06.06 18:41:00 -
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In on roll bread, if it isn't, your a moron. 1.It's a shield eater, 2. If you're dumb enough to stand still and let me pwn shot you, you deserve to die and 3. Leave it to the eve/dust community to post on alts like a bunch of losers |
Aesiron Kor-Azor
Amarr Templars Amarr Empire
215
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Posted - 2013.06.06 18:42:00 -
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KAGEHOSHI Horned Wolf wrote:In the 2 seconds it takes to charge, the assault rifle can deal 850 damage. 34 damage x 750 RPM / 60 = 425 per second x 2 = 850 for 2 seconds
Your argument is bad, it is still outclassed in DPS.
You're forgetting that there's no recoil on the SR. A third of that damage won't even hit the target assuming he's blind enough to stand stil. |
IRuby Heart
DIOS EX.
765
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Posted - 2013.06.06 18:43:00 -
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I wish you weren't so bad at the game, then you could see how utterly stupid your arguement is. |
hooc order
Deep Space Republic
221
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Posted - 2013.06.06 18:43:00 -
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OMFG!!!!
Shut up shut up shut up shut up!!!!
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Planet side 2 can't come to the PS4 soon enough. |
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Aesiron Kor-Azor
Amarr Templars Amarr Empire
215
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Posted - 2013.06.06 18:44:00 -
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IRuby Heart wrote:I wish you weren't so bad at the game, then you could see how completely stupid your arguement is.
'Acronyms' being the key term here -_-, I thought I made it bleedin' obvious without having to say. |
Scheneighnay McBob
Bojo's School of the Trades
1410
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Posted - 2013.06.06 18:44:00 -
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2 builds ago, I used scrambler pistols exclusively for a while, so I know the massive potential that scrambler rifles have when used correctly.
As always, the community is always oblivious to the power of everything except the FOTM. |
Fiasco Llana
SVER True Blood Unclaimed.
328
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Posted - 2013.06.06 18:44:00 -
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Aesiron Kor-Azor wrote:KAGEHOSHI Horned Wolf wrote:In the 2 seconds it takes to charge, the assault rifle can deal 850 damage. 34 damage x 750 RPM / 60 = 425 per second x 2 = 850 for 2 seconds
Your argument is bad, it is still outclassed in DPS. You're forgetting that there's no recoil on the SR. A third of that damage won't even hit the target assuming he's blind enough to stand stil.
Lmao there's no recoil on the AR's either. |
Anita Hardone
Fraternity of St. Venefice Amarr Empire
30
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Posted - 2013.06.06 18:44:00 -
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Aesiron Kor-Azor wrote:KAGEHOSHI Horned Wolf wrote:In the 2 seconds it takes to charge, the assault rifle can deal 850 damage. 34 damage x 750 RPM / 60 = 425 per second x 2 = 850 for 2 seconds
Your argument is bad, it is still outclassed in DPS. You're forgetting that there's no recoil on the SR. A third of that damage won't even hit the target assuming he's blind enough to stand stil.
It only seems like that because it doesnt have a (edit) zoomed scope... And using it in close-med range isnt easy, and mid-long range is penalized by a huge damage drop off. |
Washlee
Not Guilty EoN.
154
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Posted - 2013.06.06 18:45:00 -
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Aesiron Kor-Azor wrote:Just recently there has been the infamous TAC AR nerf, although it did its duty, another problem remains. One thing CCP do right, FINALLY, but I am sorry to report, there is yet ANOTHER issue which needs an instant nerf Knowing how OP the TAC AR was, I recently paid attention to the Scrambler Rifle, and it is OP if used right... I am probably going to get hated for this, but that Goddamn thing has like 500 damage if charged? LOL WHAT?! Never has there been a better time for a nerf, this thing easily dominates every game mode, regardless of player skill. Glad to know I am not the only one thinking this anyway, it is overpowering and I for one think it needs a serious nerf.
I am pleased that the Tac AR was nerfed, but all in CCPs faith, there is MORE work to be done. Truth be told, the scrambler rifle was FAR worse off than the old TAC AR anyway. So I am calling for a serious nerf here...
Five seconds is what it took to kill someone with the duvolle, but with this thing? ONE SECOND I don't want to hate on CCP, they're going a great job, but there are some serious issues with this game. No one else I know hasn't been affected by this assault sniper rifle. Everyone is calling for a nerf, CCP, will YOU bring it upon us?
Hopefully some of you can get my acronym.
Get good SR isn't that great requires a decent amount of skill to use. |
Sloth9230
Reaper Galactic ROFL BROS
1788
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Posted - 2013.06.06 18:45:00 -
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Aesiron Kor-Azor wrote: Truth be told, the scrambler rifle was FAR worse off than the old TAC AR anyway.
...AHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! |
Aesiron Kor-Azor
Amarr Templars Amarr Empire
215
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Posted - 2013.06.06 18:46:00 -
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Lol has no one noticed it yet? For real? |
Anita Hardone
Fraternity of St. Venefice Amarr Empire
30
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Posted - 2013.06.06 18:47:00 -
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Im fully specced in them and have been using them since they were available, but its still easier to do well with a Standard AR BPO. |
Rynoceros
One-Armed Bandits Unclaimed.
99
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Posted - 2013.06.06 18:49:00 -
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Wow. People fell for it. You deserve a cookie.
The OP is OP on you idiots. |
IRuby Heart
DIOS EX.
765
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Posted - 2013.06.06 18:49:00 -
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Aesiron Kor-Azor wrote:IRuby Heart wrote:I wish you weren't so bad at the game, then you could see how completely stupid your arguement is. 'Acronyms' being the key term here -_-, I thought I made it bleedin' obvious without having to say.
"Joking it's fine"
Clever. |
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Lance 2ballzStrong
SyNergy Gaming EoN.
2125
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Posted - 2013.06.06 18:49:00 -
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I can't believe people are saying the SR is OP...
In ALL the games I've played in PC, the SR has to be the weapon that killed me the least amount of times. Wanna know what weapons are the best?
PLAY PLANETARY CONQUEST.
I get killed by AR's, Flaylock pistols, Sniper Rifles, shoguns, Nades... getting killed by an SR is lulz tbh. So rarely it happens. |
Omen Astrul
Holdfast Syndicate Amarr Empire
9
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Posted - 2013.06.06 18:50:00 -
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Aesiron Kor-Azor wrote:KAGEHOSHI Horned Wolf wrote:In the 2 seconds it takes to charge, the assault rifle can deal 850 damage. 34 damage x 750 RPM / 60 = 425 per second x 2 = 850 for 2 seconds
Your argument is bad, it is still outclassed in DPS. You're forgetting that there's no recoil on the SR. A third of that damage won't even hit the target assuming he's blind enough to stand stil. A lot of the time your charged shot will miss, and even if it does hit you only have a few shots afterward to finish them off. If you miss more than a couple shots or overheat then you're dead.
The TAR? You could miss 50% of the shots and still kill someone.
Scrambler rifle is fine... |
A'Real Fury
D.A.R.K L.E.G.I.O.N D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E
106
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Posted - 2013.06.06 18:51:00 -
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I would like all weapons including melee reduced to 1 dps for max skill point earning. The match ends when someone, anyone dies. Therefore in the 1-6 hours it takes for the match to end I should be able to cap out as most players would have no choice but to run around hacking and counter hacking objectives.
Think about it with all damage reduced to 1 dps your sp efficiency will improve dramatically.
OK, back on topic I will not go into the stats for the SCR but others have said it is not about buffs and nerfs it is about balance. If the SCR is not balanced against other weapons then change it but if it is then its DPS does not matter. |
Anita Hardone
Fraternity of St. Venefice Amarr Empire
30
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Posted - 2013.06.06 18:55:00 -
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Attempted using the the Pay to Win Plasma Cannon once. It was so bad i almost QQ'd to CCP asking for a refund my all of my lifetime Aurum, or like a respec or somethn (even though it takes no SP to use) |
Avallo Kantor
DUST University Ivy League
13
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Posted - 2013.06.06 18:55:00 -
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Aesiron Kor-Azor wrote: it is OP if used right...
Ideally that statement should be true of every weapon in the game.
- Personally I've used the SR since I started (which wasn't too long ago) and I am having fun with it. I generally can not kill players unless they are standing still, or at very close range, and often times to ensure a kill I have to overheat my gun. Generally on the (non-Assault variants) SR I find that the gun will overheat too quickly if you try to rapid fire it.
(Yes I'm a bad player)
As for not having recoil, lasers don't have recoil. |
Michael Cratar
Fenrir's Wolves RUST415
206
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Posted - 2013.06.06 18:56:00 -
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Aesiron Kor-Azor wrote:Just recently there has been the infamous TAC AR nerf, although it did its duty, another problem remains. One thing CCP do right, FINALLY, but I am sorry to report, there is yet ANOTHER issue which needs an instant nerf Knowing how OP the TAC AR was, I recently paid attention to the Scrambler Rifle, and it is OP if used right... I am probably going to get hated for this, but that Goddamn thing has like 500 damage if charged? LOL WHAT?! Never has there been a better time for a nerf, this thing easily dominates every game mode, regardless of player skill. Glad to know I am not the only one thinking this anyway, it is overpowering and I for one think it needs a serious nerf.
I am pleased that the Tac AR was nerfed, but all in CCPs faith, there is MORE work to be done. Truth be told, the scrambler rifle was FAR worse off than the old TAC AR anyway. So I am calling for a serious nerf here...
Five seconds is what it took to kill someone with the duvolle, but with this thing? ONE SECOND I don't want to hate on CCP, they're going a great job, but there are some serious issues with this game. No one else I know hasn't been affected by this assault sniper rifle. Everyone is calling for a nerf, CCP, will YOU bring it upon us?
Plus I hope you know what an Acronym is.
Lol saw it. |
KAGEHOSHI Horned Wolf
Seraphim Initiative. CRONOS.
4225
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Posted - 2013.06.06 18:56:00 -
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Aesiron Kor-Azor wrote:KAGEHOSHI Horned Wolf wrote:In the 2 seconds it takes to charge, the assault rifle can deal 850 damage. 34 damage x 750 RPM / 60 = 425 per second x 2 = 850 for 2 seconds
Your argument is bad, it is still outclassed in DPS. You're forgetting that there's no recoil on the SR. A third of that damage won't even hit the target assuming he's blind enough to stand stil. 850 minus 1/3 of 850 is over 566, which is still more damage than 500 from the charged shot. My point still stands. Secondly, charged shots are a big gamble; dealing that damage with many shots is better than one, because if that one shot misses, all that DPS is lost. You also don't take into account the level of heat that builds up from charged shots. |
Driftward
Subdreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore
156
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Posted - 2013.06.06 18:59:00 -
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Everyone take a step back. Breath. And look back at the OP. Read horizontally. Then, read the vertical. Yep. they got you good. |
semperfi1999
Internal Error. Negative-Feedback
514
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Posted - 2013.06.06 19:01:00 -
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They are all blind fanbois.
That being said I love this because I know how crazy powerful the scrambler rifle is and I know that so many ppl right now are calling it perfectly balanced. Balanced??? PPPPSSSHHHH... I do better with this gun than I ever did using the tact. Tact took alot more skill to fight against the recoil. This thing I can kill someone before they even realize they are being shot. |
True Adamance
Ametat Security Amarr Empire
78
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Posted - 2013.06.06 19:08:00 -
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Aesiron Kor-Azor wrote:Just recently there has been the infamous TAC AR nerf, although it did its duty, another problem remains. One thing CCP do right, FINALLY, but I am sorry to report, there is yet ANOTHER issue which needs an instant nerf Knowing how OP the TAC AR was, I recently paid attention to the Scrambler Rifle, and it is OP if used right... I am probably going to get hated for this, but that Goddamn thing has like 500 damage if charged? LOL WHAT?! Never has there been a better time for a nerf, this thing easily dominates every game mode, regardless of player skill. Glad to know I am not the only one thinking this anyway, it is overpowering and I for one think it needs a serious nerf.
I am pleased that the Tac AR was nerfed, but all in CCPs faith, there is MORE work to be done. Truth be told, the scrambler rifle was FAR worse off than the old TAC AR anyway. So I am calling for a serious nerf here...
Five seconds is what it took to kill someone with the duvolle, but with this thing? ONE SECOND I don't want to hate on CCP, they're going a great job, but there are some serious issues with this game. No one else I know hasn't been affected by this assault sniper rifle. Everyone is calling for a nerf, CCP, will YOU bring it upon us?
Plus I hope you know what an Acronym is.
MOst intelligent thread on this forum ever! |
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