thats also a matter of opinion

I am not sure what the complaints are all about I only been killed ONCE by a flaylock since they been out and it took three shots to the back as a heavy hacking C on the biomass facility.

Plasma Cannons have scored more kills on me than the flaylock so far.

Also Scrambler > Flaylock.

Surprised that nobody realized that this is just the MD argument all over again. History repeats itself...

Has the mass driver ever done as much damage as the flaylock?

Serious question, I've only ever played around with MD in the past for giggles. Also I know for damn sure the MD takes a more practiced hand to land your shots at range / without killing yourself up close.

You're starting to get it. We're dealing with a weapon that deals damage proportionate to its clip size/ammo capacity. MD in Chrome dealt so much damage because it had a limited clip size and terrible battlefield longevity. The only balancing factor for having such a large blast radius was the slow moving projectile and arcing trajectory. The FP has an even smaller clip size, barely any splash, and a short range yet people expect that little bastard to tickle or something.

When some of the best players in the game come together and say that something is way too strong and requires little skill to use, and then randoms come in and defend said weapon, I tend to side with the players who have a wealth of not only FPS experience, but DUST experience.

So. Yea. Noob tube.

But that is the intended purpose of a noob tube, it is supposed to be a low skill high reward weapon.

Why on earth is its splash damage as high as it's direct? O.o

Why is that necessary?

We're getting faster weapon switching in 1.2, so you effectively will have a 6 round burst if you decide to equip two, as I'm sure a number of people will / do.

This thing instant kills scouts, and probably makes logis and assaults sad, though as a heavy I don't know that first hand. What I do know is I lure those stupid little rocket panzies into a cooked grenade if I don't randomly hear pop pop pop and die as I'm trying to waddle away or figure out how to turn in their general direction.

Why on earth is its splash damage as high as it's direct? O.o

Why is that necessary?

We're getting faster weapon switching in 1.2, so you effectively will have a 6 round burst if you decide to equip two, as I'm sure a number of people will / do.

This thing instant kills scouts, and probably makes logis and assaults sad, though as a heavy I don't know that first hand. What I do know is I lure those stupid little rocket panzies into a cooked grenade if I don't randomly hear pop pop pop and die as I'm trying to waddle away or figure out how to turn in their general direction.

Because killing through splash is it's main purpose... duh

That's a horrible philosophy because skilled players will start using it and just wreck the noobs trying to collect easy kills.

We already have a light weapon for noobs, it's called an LAV.

I got wrecked by a weapon that only has 3 shots

Ok, so why is its direct so high if its main purpose is to kill through splash?

And honestly, I personally see the flaylock as having a weaker splash with a strong direct, promoting skill instead of spam :/

Why a pro would use any side arm besides a scrambler is beyond me. Not that they need a side arm anyway, a person whose good with an AR would wipe the floor the an FP player anywday.

So, then why are they called noob tubes again?

They're called noob tubes as a reference to the original noob tube in CoD, which was in essence a weapon used to balance that game for skill, making it an actual noob tube. Now when people see any explosive weapon in other games, they refer to it as a noob tube.

So, then why are they called noob tubes again?

Why would we give it lower direct...yeah, lets punish skill now

Yes, balance for skill, see, someone gets it.

Oh no, but clearly this is illogical because vets can turn the Noobtubes against their rightful masters

It's an insult, not a description Well, I guess it can be both

Doesn't matter to me anyways, I use the perfectly balanced and not even slightly favored weapon now, the AR. It only took me a year of testing literally every single other playstyle that DUST has to offer (aside from assaults, never once skilled into them), to some extent. And it's not because I really even want it.

I just want a weapon that's always going to be useful, will always be simple to use, no matter how much recoil or dispersion they slap on it in a drunken rage. Hell, even overheat or jamming, which SHOULD be on it, won't make it any harder to use.

It just boggles my mind when a sidearm is so damn good.

So basically I built my character around CCPs design tendencies, not my own personal preferences, since I'd rather not have to ride to broken bus all the way to the promised land :/ (or at least be at the front, instead of the back)

How often do you think people die to the FP outside of 30m?

Just use the SMG, it will never get nerfed, and if it does, scramblers will go down first

496 for headshots in the hand of a pro?

Just use the SMG

I'm a heavy

You poor thing

I've played against it and tested the ****** ones, CCP doesn't encourage individual diversity so I'm locked into my build for another 3 months while I finish it off.

I play against them though.

A LOT.

Every match, I hear that stupid little pop all over the place.

Jin, shut up. I was on the same boat as you, and I have said repeatedly that the flaylock is an issue. Just.

Shut up.

Basically all I'm saying is being able to shoot the ground and collect kills with a sidearm is kind of silly.


I just tend to think that these few people getting good scores with SMGs tend to be putting in a lot more effort than FP, and the Scrambler Pistol, while its headshot damage is probably too high, is definitely one of the higher skilled weapons to use.

Enjoy

Personally, don't care about the QQ, but I would love to see the flaylock become something that fires slower, but with a whirling a miniature rocket kind of accuracy, rpg-essque weapon. The sort of weapon that an Space Ork might use...you know pistol with some mega-dakka...or in this case 'splodey.