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xprotoman23
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Posted - 2013.05.31 17:03:00 -
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First and foremost it doesn't really consume much PG in comparison to other side arms.
Secondly you don't have to be accurate with it
Third it's too good of a side arm
Fourth it makes speccing into the mass driver useless
fifth it's a noob tube.
If I wanted to play with "one man army" and "203's" I would go back to MW2. |
VLIGHT5
The Judas Coalition
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Posted - 2013.05.31 17:06:00 -
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you're mad |
Alina Heart
DIOS EX.
Gentlemen's Agreement
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Posted - 2013.05.31 17:07:00 -
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This game gets more broken everyday, this week I've seen a huge influx of People running around with Core Flaylock's thinking their the Omega.
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semperfi1999
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Posted - 2013.05.31 17:07:00 -
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xprotoman23 wrote:First and foremost it doesn't really consume much PG in comparison to other side arms.
Secondly you don't have to be accurate with it
Third it's too good of a side arm
Fourth it makes speccing into the mass driver useless
fifth it's a noob tube.
If I wanted to play with "one man army" and "203's" I would go back to MW2.
Protoman you messing with Bonneys bread and butter!! 
Oh yea and whoever thought this weapon appeared balanced in fan fest LOL!!!! Say hello to the 480 dmg direct hit weapon. |
Abron Garr
Amarr Templars
Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2013.05.31 17:08:00 -
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Fused grenades are worse. |
xprotoman23
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Posted - 2013.05.31 17:10:00 -
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Abron Garr wrote:Fused grenades are worse.
People use fuse grenades because they haven't specced up into grenades. Once you get core locus grenades you'll probably never use contact grenades again. |
Jin Robot
Foxhound Corporation
General Tso's Alliance
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Posted - 2013.05.31 17:10:00 -
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Petition for a tissue. |
Selinate deux
DUST University
Ivy League
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Posted - 2013.05.31 17:10:00 -
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You mean... The flaylock is doing exactly what I said it would do before it came out?
It was obvious that it wasn't balanced before it came out just from the videos of it, and people complained that I was already talking about nerfing it. Now people see that it's not balanced with the other side arms, and want to nerf it.
Mind blowing. |
Kitten Empress
Ametat Security
Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2013.05.31 17:10:00 -
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Core Flaylock pistol used "Hit Gallente user near the feet!"
Gallente user exploded never to be seen again
Its super effective
This thing one shotted me with one shot hitting near my feet.
I have 515 armor and 150 shields.
Grrr |
xprotoman23
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Posted - 2013.05.31 17:10:00 -
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semperfi1999 wrote:xprotoman23 wrote:First and foremost it doesn't really consume much PG in comparison to other side arms.
Secondly you don't have to be accurate with it
Third it's too good of a side arm
Fourth it makes speccing into the mass driver useless
fifth it's a noob tube.
If I wanted to play with "one man army" and "203's" I would go back to MW2. Protoman you messing with Bonneys bread and butter!! Oh yea and whoever thought this weapon appeared balanced in fan fest LOL!!!! Say hello to the 480 dmg direct hit weapon.
Bonney should have stuck with his scrambler pistol. I WILL NOT STAND FOR NOOB TUBES IN DUST  |
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Synfulwrath
Requiem of Shadows
DEADSPACE SOCIETY
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Posted - 2013.05.31 17:11:00 -
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As in consumes 0pg. Its a baby noob tube. Or actually its more of a noob tube then the mass driver which is more like the war machine.
in any case i hate both of them. my approach to them is to run straight at them and CQC them. let them kill themselves with splash. |
Daedric Lothar
Onslaught Inc
RISE of LEGION
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Posted - 2013.05.31 17:11:00 -
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Against protoplayers the Flaylock is decently balanced, but against noobies and cheap fits, it really is a noob tube. |
Alina Heart
DIOS EX.
Gentlemen's Agreement
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Posted - 2013.05.31 17:12:00 -
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Selinate deux wrote:You mean... The flaylock is doing exactly what I said it would do before it came out?
It was obvious that it wasn't balanced before it came out just from the videos of it, and people complained that I was already talking about nerfing it. Now people see that it's not balanced with the other side arms, and want to nerf it.
Mind blowing.
Sorry for wanting to actually test out the weapon first before demanding a nerf, What the kitten was I thinking!  |
KAGEHOSHI Horned Wolf
Seraphim Initiative.
CRONOS.
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Posted - 2013.05.31 17:12:00 -
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You'd make a more compelling case with actual stats |
dabest2evadoit7
Cyberdyne Systems and Technology
The Universal Accord
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Posted - 2013.05.31 17:16:00 -
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Synfulwrath wrote:As in consumes 0pg. Its a baby noob tube. Or actually its more of a noob tube then the mass driver which is more like the war machine.
in any case i hate both of them. my approach to them is to run straight at them and CQC them. let them kill themselves with splash.
Best tactic for going up against one. Put that smg to their face and let them blow themselves up with there horrible aim. |
SILENTSAM 69
Pro Hic Immortalis
RISE of LEGION
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Posted - 2013.05.31 17:18:00 -
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You must be joking. The radius on it is so small it mainly only works as a direct shot. Considering it is a ballistic shot that takes time to get to the enemy I think that makes it far from a noob weapon. If you can aim well and put it on the person then you deserve the good damage you do, especially with such a tiny clip.
It is a great weapon that is balanced well. I do not use it though, I find it easier to use an SMG. |
hooc order
Deep Space Republic
Gentlemen's Agreement
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Posted - 2013.05.31 17:19:00 -
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Quote:Third it's too good of a side arm
Regular pistols do some pretty hefty damage with no levels in it
SMGs if you keep the target on target eat up my heavy alt with ease.
Every time i hear a flaylock i think to myself "easy kill"
You are full of crap. |
Jin Robot
Foxhound Corporation
General Tso's Alliance
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Posted - 2013.05.31 17:19:00 -
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Kitten Empress wrote:Core Flaylock pistol used "Hit Gallente user near the feet!"
Gallente user exploded never to be seen again
Its super effective
This thing one shotted me with one shot hitting near my feet.
I have 515 armor and 150 shields.
Grrr
Total bull**** |
xprotoman23
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Posted - 2013.05.31 17:23:00 -
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KAGEHOSHI Horned Wolf wrote:You'd make a more compelling case with actual stats
I could post up the stats in comparison to other side arms in terms of CPU/PG, but CCP and the CPM already know this. |
StubbyDucky
KILL-EM-QUICK
RISE of LEGION
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Posted - 2013.05.31 17:24:00 -
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Duel Flaylock on a M/1 Assault suit with four shots each = an 8 shot Flaylock.
Kaaaaboooooom oh yeah!  |
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xprotoman23
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Posted - 2013.05.31 17:26:00 -
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hooc order wrote:Quote:Third it's too good of a side arm Regular pistols do some pretty hefty damage with no levels in it SMGs if you keep the target on target eat up my heavy alt with ease. Every time i hear a flaylock i think to myself "easy kill" You are full of crap.
In terms of CPU and PG it's too good of a weapon in comparison to all other side arms. You don't really have to give up anything in order to fit the proto type variant onto a suit compared to the proto type variants of other side arms.
You have to be accurate with Nova Knives, SMG's, and Scrambler pistols in order to get kills with them. The flaylock pistol rewards players for being close enough, but not good enough. This is a bit ridiculous in a shooter. |
Chinduko
KILL-EM-QUICK
RISE of LEGION
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Posted - 2013.05.31 17:27:00 -
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Why spec into a flay lock or mass driver when the AR is all you'll ever need.
But could it be that a weapon besides the AR could be overly effective?
We'll have to wait and see if the Flaylock actually performs well. It is probably performing as designed with the ability to kill, unlike most other weapons in Dust other than the AR. Hopefully players are carrying both.
I seriously doubt that the flaylock is going to lower anyone's KDR or even increase it by much if at all. |
xLTShinySidesx
UNOBTANIUM INC
General Tso's Alliance
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Posted - 2013.05.31 17:28:00 -
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I like them, yes I use them but I've been killed by them as well, I guess they don't bug me that much since I only get killed by them maybe 1% of my deaths... Also, they have their disadvantages as well, sometimes they don't register any splash damage and you have to be fairly close to use them. What did people expect from a mini rocket launcher? Of course they do allot of damage.. I can kill people with 1-2 shots whether I use shotgun or flaylock so what's the big deal?
They don't seem that frequent to me, the tac ARs and scrambler rifles are much more devastating IMO and I won't call them op either but then again, I don't call op on anything :) |
one 1986
Regime Of Shadow Marines
Alpha Wolf Pack
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Posted - 2013.05.31 17:30:00 -
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I knew there be ppl saying this. Use one see how it go's
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R'adeh Hunt
The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar
DARKSTAR ARMY
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Posted - 2013.05.31 17:32:00 -
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Daedric Lothar wrote:Against protoplayers the Flaylock is decently balanced, but against noobies and cheap fits, it really is a noob tube.
Which makes it abundantly clear that nerfing it would be silly because it would render it useless against proto players. OF COURSE proto flaylocks will slaughter non-proto suits...in the same way that proto forge guns will slaughter non-proto tanks quickly.
Plus, you need to reload after only 3 shots...which is a MAJOR drawback.
Those struggling against flaylocks, use your brain and you won't have any issues. JUMP as much as you can...and keep moving CONSTANTLY (in non-predictable patterns).
Also, people should keep track of what weapon types kill them...the flaylock is at the very bottom of that list. |
gbghg
L.O.T.I.S.
RISE of LEGION
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Posted - 2013.05.31 17:35:00 -
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semperfi1999 wrote:xprotoman23 wrote:First and foremost it doesn't really consume much PG in comparison to other side arms.
Secondly you don't have to be accurate with it
Third it's too good of a side arm
Fourth it makes speccing into the mass driver useless
fifth it's a noob tube.
If I wanted to play with "one man army" and "203's" I would go back to MW2. Protoman you messing with Bonneys bread and butter!! Oh yea and whoever thought this weapon appeared balanced in fan fest LOL!!!! Say hello to the 480 dmg direct hit weapon.
Please tell me your're joking about that direct damage, that's comparable to proto small missile turrets for direct damage. Oh and that stupid knock back they have when fired at dropships |
Xender17
Murderz for hire
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Posted - 2013.05.31 17:37:00 -
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I skilled into it before my optional respect.... Why the hell can it be used as a light weapon. Its up to par with practically every other light weapon. |
Abron Garr
Amarr Templars
Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2013.05.31 17:37:00 -
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xprotoman23 wrote:Abron Garr wrote:Fused grenades are worse. People use fuse grenades because they haven't specced up into grenades. Once you get core locus grenades you'll probably never use contact grenades again.
I thought you meant noob tube weapons a la dumb-fire swarm launchers from beta. Jump. Shoot. Win.
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R'adeh Hunt
The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar
DARKSTAR ARMY
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Posted - 2013.05.31 17:40:00 -
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xprotoman23 wrote:hooc order wrote:Quote:Third it's too good of a side arm Regular pistols do some pretty hefty damage with no levels in it SMGs if you keep the target on target eat up my heavy alt with ease. Every time i hear a flaylock i think to myself "easy kill" You are full of crap. In terms of CPU and PG it's too good of a weapon in comparison to all other side arms. You don't really have to give up anything in order to fit the proto type variant onto a suit compared to the proto type variants of other side arms. You have to be accurate with Nova Knives, SMG's, and Scrambler pistols in order to get kills with them. The flaylock pistol rewards players for being close enough, but not good enough. This is a bit ridiculous in a shooter.
Yeah...but if you miss with any of those other weapons you can try again...while if you use flaylocks, you have to reload after 3 shots!
As for proto stats:
Flaylock 45 cpu / 2pg
SP 48 cpu / 8pg
SMG 57 cpu / 10pg
So yeah, using less cpu/pg...but for crying out loud, look at clip size!! You get 480 shots with the SMG and the SP gets 42 shots!
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R'adeh Hunt
The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar
DARKSTAR ARMY
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Posted - 2013.05.31 17:42:00 -
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gbghg wrote:semperfi1999 wrote:xprotoman23 wrote:First and foremost it doesn't really consume much PG in comparison to other side arms.
Secondly you don't have to be accurate with it
Third it's too good of a side arm
Fourth it makes speccing into the mass driver useless
fifth it's a noob tube.
If I wanted to play with "one man army" and "203's" I would go back to MW2. Protoman you messing with Bonneys bread and butter!! Oh yea and whoever thought this weapon appeared balanced in fan fest LOL!!!! Say hello to the 480 dmg direct hit weapon. Please tell me your're joking about that direct damage, that's comparable to proto small missile turrets for direct damage. Oh and that stupid knock back they have when fired at dropships
He doesn't know what he's talking about ;)
It's less than half the figure he quoted...and you only get 3 shots before you have to reload.
So even a scout with 300hp needs more than 1 shot at full health if he has a decent fit. Assaults and Logis need even more shots. And again, you only have 3 before you're out of the game for 2.5sec. An AR can pump out a crazy amount of damage in 2.5sec...as can the other sidearm that can continue firing while you have to reload. |
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