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DUST Fiend OSG Planetary Operations Covert Intervention 4113	Posted - 2013.06.26 16:53:00 - [1] - Quote Do they stack splash and direct damage? I swear I've been two shot by them and I have just a little over 1000 EHP.....
DUST Fiend OSG Planetary Operations Covert Intervention 4116	Posted - 2013.06.26 17:09:00 - [2] - Quote Lightning Bolt2 wrote: DUST Fiend wrote: Do they stack splash and direct damage? I swear I've been two shot by them and I have just a little over 1000 EHP..... seen a proto heavy 3-shot by it... I know for a fact my proto heavy has been 3 shot, but I don't fit tank. Either way, is it possible to NOT get a direct hit on heavies? Oh, and LOLMANDO
DUST Fiend OSG Planetary Operations Covert Intervention 4118	Posted - 2013.06.26 17:28:00 - [3] - Quote Jin Robot wrote: how is that job at CCP going?... oh thats right you are talking out your *** Flaylock will get the hammer, it's currently the easiest to use sidearm that can full on replace a light weapon in pretty much any situation outside of sniping, though those things have some nasty range on them too. At least SMGs and Pistols require you to, you know, aim.
DUST Fiend OSG Planetary Operations Covert Intervention 4118	Posted - 2013.06.26 17:33:00 - [4] - Quote xLTShinySidesx wrote: Have you even played with it? I've played against it and tested the ****** ones, CCP doesn't encourage individual diversity so I'm locked into my build for another 3 months while I finish it off. I play against them though. A LOT. Every match, I hear that stupid little pop all over the place. Jin, shut up. I was on the same boat as you, and I have said repeatedly that the flaylock is an issue. Just. Shut up.
DUST Fiend OSG Planetary Operations Covert Intervention 4118	Posted - 2013.06.26 17:38:00 - [5] - Quote Jin Robot wrote: Dont think I will. You have just said you only see the kill feed and hear the popping? Thats your information? Ridiculous. Transfer over the SP for me to test it and I'll play with it all week. Otherwise, I'll go off watching anyone using it getting lots of kills and using it as their primary weapon. There are lots of them going around, and I hardly even play anymore. Every match. I see 3 things most consistently these days. Caldari Logis Flaylocks LAVs
DUST Fiend OSG Planetary Operations Covert Intervention 4118	Posted - 2013.06.26 17:46:00 - [6] - Quote Jin Robot wrote: crystal balls now tell you the talent levels of players? or are you assuming? jk on the question, i know you are assuming. Scores at the end of the match, corps, and leaderboards tell me the talent level of players. Also people who use weapons that require effort tend to have more talent then those who use weapons that only require you to hit somewhere near the targets feet. Particularly when it's a sidearm.
DUST Fiend OSG Planetary Operations Covert Intervention 4118	Posted - 2013.06.26 17:51:00 - [7] - Quote Jin Robot wrote: that post is beyond sooo ridiculous The truth hurts the worst When some of the best players in the game come together and say that something is way too strong and requires little skill to use, and then randoms come in and defend said weapon, I tend to side with the players who have a wealth of not only FPS experience, but DUST experience. So. Yea. Noob tube.
DUST Fiend OSG Planetary Operations Covert Intervention 4118	Posted - 2013.06.26 17:55:00 - [8] - Quote Jin Robot wrote: thats your problem, you act as if 'better" players opinions matter more. get over yourself buddy I learned this lesson the hard way in Starcraft 2 More tallented players don't have opinions that matter more, they have opinions that are more seated in fact and mechanics. They have a better grasp of the underpinnings of their given game, as well as their genre. "Better" players tend to have more knowledge through first hand experience, or through playing closely with others who have first hand experience. So, while a fat person and a skinny person matter just the same as people, the skinny person is probably gonna get picked when it comes to running the marathon. And why am I getting over myself again? I ******* suck at this game. For some reason I still top the leaderboards in most of my pub matches, but I'm a pub scrub, and pubs are for scrubs :/
DUST Fiend OSG Planetary Operations Covert Intervention 4118	Posted - 2013.06.26 18:00:00 - [9] - Quote Jin Robot wrote: skill at fps does not equate a more logical person, wow really? any player who plays has "first hand experience" and an opinion. so leet you are No but it does equate to more accurate feedback. Noobs don't fully understand why their given weapon is so good or bad, or if their shots are being registered or if they're just missing. And you're also putting words in my mouth, as I never said anything being logical. Two people get into HAVs. The first drives off a cliff, takes a bunch of damage, then charges into enemy lines with his rail tank. The other sits near cover, communicates with his squad, and focuses on key targets. Both have first hand experience. Who has more accurate feedback when it comes to the efficiency and proper operation of an HAV?
DUST Fiend OSG Planetary Operations Covert Intervention 4118	Posted - 2013.06.26 18:03:00 - [10] - Quote Here's a descent example

DUST Fiend OSG Planetary Operations Covert Intervention 4118	Posted - 2013.06.26 18:26:00 - [11] - Quote Cosgar wrote: Surprised that nobody realized that this is just the MD argument all over again. History repeats itself... Has the mass driver ever done as much damage as the flaylock? Serious question, I've only ever played around with MD in the past for giggles. Also I know for damn sure the MD takes a more practiced hand to land your shots at range / without killing yourself up close.
DUST Fiend OSG Planetary Operations Covert Intervention 4118	Posted - 2013.06.26 18:35:00 - [12] - Quote Cosgar wrote: You're starting to get it. We're dealing with a weapon that deals damage proportionate to its clip size/ammo capacity. MD in Chrome dealt so much damage because it had a limited clip size and terrible battlefield longevity. The only balancing factor for having such a large blast radius was the slow moving projectile and arcing trajectory. The FP has an even smaller clip size, barely any splash, and a short range yet people expect that little bastard to tickle or something. Why on earth is its splash damage as high as it's direct? O.o Why is that necessary? We're getting faster weapon switching in 1.2, so you effectively will have a 6 round burst if you decide to equip two, as I'm sure a number of people will / do. This thing instant kills scouts, and probably makes logis and assaults sad, though as a heavy I don't know that first hand. What I do know is I lure those stupid little rocket panzies into a cooked grenade if I don't randomly hear pop pop pop and die as I'm trying to waddle away or figure out how to turn in their general direction.
DUST Fiend OSG Planetary Operations Covert Intervention 4118	Posted - 2013.06.26 18:40:00 - [13] - Quote Sloth9230 wrote: But that is the intended purpose of a noob tube, it is supposed to be a low skill high reward weapon. That's a horrible philosophy because skilled players will start using it and just wreck the noobs trying to collect easy kills. We already have a light weapon for noobs, it's called an LAV.
DUST Fiend OSG Planetary Operations Covert Intervention 4118	Posted - 2013.06.26 18:43:00 - [14] - Quote Sloth9230 wrote: Because killing through splash is it's main purpose... duh Ok, so why is its direct so high if its main purpose is to kill through splash? And honestly, I personally see the flaylock as having a weaker splash with a strong direct, promoting skill instead of spam :/
DUST Fiend OSG Planetary Operations Covert Intervention 4119	Posted - 2013.06.26 18:50:00 - [15] - Quote Sloth9230 wrote: So, then why are they called noob tubes again? It's an insult, not a description Well, I guess it can be both Doesn't matter to me anyways, I use the perfectly balanced and not even slightly favored weapon now, the AR. It only took me a year of testing literally every single other playstyle that DUST has to offer (aside from assaults, never once skilled into them), to some extent. And it's not because I really even want it. I just want a weapon that's always going to be useful, will always be simple to use, no matter how much recoil or dispersion they slap on it in a drunken rage. Hell, even overheat or jamming, which SHOULD be on it, won't make it any harder to use. It just boggles my mind when a sidearm is so damn good. So basically I built my character around CCPs design tendencies, not my own personal preferences, since I'd rather not have to ride to broken bus all the way to the promised land :/ (or at least be at the front, instead of the back) Sloth9230 wrote: DUST Fiend wrote: And honestly, I personally see the flaylock as having a weaker splash with a strong direct, promoting skill instead of spam :/ Why would we give it lower direct...yeah, lets punish skill now Ummm.....Uh....I think you misread >_< And besides, between CCP Shanghai and things like Commando and Bomber Dropships, it's pretty clear they don't listen to much feedback outside of bug reports or feature requests.
DUST Fiend OSG Planetary Operations Covert Intervention 4119	Posted - 2013.06.26 18:54:00 - [16] - Quote Sloth9230 wrote: Just use the SMG I'm a heavy, and the SMG already aims significantly slower than an HMG.....yea, I'm good Scramblers require actual skill or a mouse and keyboard, of which I am lacking in both
DUST Fiend OSG Planetary Operations Covert Intervention 4120	Posted - 2013.06.26 19:03:00 - [17] - Quote Sloth9230 wrote: DUST Fiend wrote: I'm a heavy You poor thing Right? I'm a scout first and a pilot second, but CCP managed to crush those dreams out of me. Now the lolmando looks like a badly thrown together joke, from what we've seen so far.....what upsets me the most though....is that I'll probably still do just fine with my basic heavy and an AR I rarely even touch my proto fit, the Gek is more than enough for just about any engagement, though I flail around like a blind seal if people get too close to me Should spec into dem 'locks
DUST Fiend OSG Planetary Operations Covert Intervention 4120	Posted - 2013.06.26 19:12:00 - [18] - Quote Basically all I'm saying is being able to shoot the ground and collect kills with a sidearm is kind of silly. As I've stated though, I'm not too concerned. I don't take this game seriously in the least anymore. I kill flaylock users because they get way too confident in their damage, and I can usually alpha them with good aim before they can pop off that third shot. What I can say though....poor, poor scouts. I just tend to think that these few people getting good scores with SMGs tend to be putting in a lot more effort than FP, and the Scrambler Pistol, while its headshot damage is probably too high, is definitely one of the higher skilled weapons to use. Enjoy
DUST Fiend OSG Planetary Operations Covert Intervention 4124	Posted - 2013.06.26 20:12:00 - [19] - Quote Doyle Reese wrote: btw, I think you need to seek professional help :P AR heavy is the boss, I put up better numbers with my standard fit than I did on some of my best days as a scout And I do need professional help, waiting on that insurance And i specifically went Derpship to try and help out the corp. Oh what a mistake that was.
DUST Fiend OSG Planetary Operations Covert Intervention 4126	Posted - 2013.06.26 22:01:00 - [20] - Quote Dust Project 514 wrote: How can it be a newb tube if noobs can't have access to it until they get enough SP, which by that time they will no longer be newbs. Implying that noobs won't always be noobs Noobs will always be noobs Dust Project 514 wrote: Remember. People are NOT complaining about Flaylock Pistols. They are complain SPECIFICALLY about the Core Flaylock. This is true, I can't say anything other than the flaylock has given me any "issues". That said, I AM an AR Heavy and I don't tank at all, so my view is partially skewed. I can imagine tanked heavies don't have much issues with it. You know what.? I am disgusted and appalled right now. Not once has any Godlock user thrown a flux grenade my way. Mass Driver / Godlock / Flux / Hive Profit. /thread Only noobs post beyond this point. Abandon all hope.

DUST Fiend OSG Planetary Operations Covert Intervention 4128	Posted - 2013.06.26 22:17:00 - [21] - Quote DUST Fiend wrote: Only noobs post beyond this point. Abandon all hope. Shut up noob Quit tellin' me what to do ::cooks grenade:: ::respawns elsewhere:: (SURT IS A VIRUS!!!)

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