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Sloth9230
Reaper Galactic ROFL BROS
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Posted - 2013.05.31 17:59:00 -
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It was already nerfed, when it didn't get the 10% bonus every other weapon got.
Then again, it probably didn't need it. The poor plasma cannon on the other hand... |
Sloth9230
Reaper Galactic
1989
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Posted - 2013.06.26 18:38:00 -
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DUST Fiend wrote:
When some of the best players in the game come together and say that something is way too strong and requires little skill to use, and then randoms come in and defend said weapon, I tend to side with the players who have a wealth of not only FPS experience, but DUST experience.
So. Yea. Noob tube.
Well, yeah, it is in fact a Noob Tube. Which is why your whole little "vets and their opinions argument" is out of place. A weapon that's very purpose is to give noobs and scrubs a fighting chance against the pros and vets? Of course the pros/vet hate it, they will always hate it.
But that is the intended purpose of a noob tube, it is supposed to be a low skill high reward weapon. That does not make it OP, could it use a small nerf here and there? Sure, increase PG/CPU, and lower the ROF or increase the reload speed so people have to be more careful with their shots.
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Sloth9230
Reaper Galactic
1989
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Posted - 2013.06.26 18:41:00 -
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DUST Fiend wrote:Cosgar wrote:You're starting to get it. We're dealing with a weapon that deals damage proportionate to its clip size/ammo capacity. MD in Chrome dealt so much damage because it had a limited clip size and terrible battlefield longevity. The only balancing factor for having such a large blast radius was the slow moving projectile and arcing trajectory. The FP has an even smaller clip size, barely any splash, and a short range yet people expect that little bastard to tickle or something. Why on earth is its splash damage as high as it's direct? O.o Why is that necessary? We're getting faster weapon switching in 1.2, so you effectively will have a 6 round burst if you decide to equip two, as I'm sure a number of people will / do. This thing instant kills scouts, and probably makes logis and assaults sad, though as a heavy I don't know that first hand. What I do know is I lure those stupid little rocket panzies into a cooked grenade if I don't randomly hear pop pop pop and die as I'm trying to waddle away or figure out how to turn in their general direction. Because killing through splash is it's main purpose... duh
If you want a FP that takes skill to use, then use the breach |
Sloth9230
Reaper Galactic
1989
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Posted - 2013.06.26 18:44:00 -
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DUST Fiend wrote:Sloth9230 wrote:But that is the intended purpose of a noob tube, it is supposed to be a low skill high reward weapon. That's a horrible philosophy because skilled players will start using it and just wreck the noobs trying to collect easy kills. We already have a light weapon for noobs, it's called an LAV. Why a pro would use any side arm besides a scrambler is beyond me. Not that they need a side arm anyway, a person whose good with an AR would wipe the floor the an FP player anywday.
So, then why are they called noob tubes again? |
Sloth9230
Reaper Galactic
1989
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Posted - 2013.06.26 18:45:00 -
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DUST Fiend wrote:Sloth9230 wrote:Because killing through splash is it's main purpose... duh Ok, so why is its direct so high if its main purpose is to kill through splash? And honestly, I personally see the flaylock as having a weaker splash with a strong direct, promoting skill instead of spam :/
Why would we give it lower direct...yeah, lets punish skill now |
Sloth9230
Reaper Galactic
1991
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Posted - 2013.06.26 18:49:00 -
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Cosgar wrote:Sloth9230 wrote:DUST Fiend wrote:Sloth9230 wrote:But that is the intended purpose of a noob tube, it is supposed to be a low skill high reward weapon. That's a horrible philosophy because skilled players will start using it and just wreck the noobs trying to collect easy kills. We already have a light weapon for noobs, it's called an LAV. Why a pro would use any side arm besides a scrambler is beyond me. Not that they need a side arm anyway, a person whose good with an AR would wipe the floor the an FP player anywday. So, then why are they called noob tubes again? They're called noob tubes as a reference to the original noob tube in CoD, which was in essence a weapon used to balance that game for skill, making it an actual noob tube. Now when people see any explosive weapon in other games, they refer to it as a noob tube. Yes, balance for skill, see, someone gets it.
Oh no, but clearly this is illogical because vets can turn the Noobtubes against their rightful masters |
Sloth9230
Reaper Galactic
1991
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Posted - 2013.06.26 18:52:00 -
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DUST Fiend wrote:Sloth9230 wrote:So, then why are they called noob tubes again? It's an insult, not a description Well, I guess it can be both Doesn't matter to me anyways, I use the perfectly balanced and not even slightly favored weapon now, the AR. It only took me a year of testing literally every single other playstyle that DUST has to offer (aside from assaults, never once skilled into them), to some extent. And it's not because I really even want it. I just want a weapon that's always going to be useful, will always be simple to use, no matter how much recoil or dispersion they slap on it in a drunken rage. Hell, even overheat or jamming, which SHOULD be on it, won't make it any harder to use. It just boggles my mind when a sidearm is so damn good. So basically I built my character around CCPs design tendencies, not my own personal preferences, since I'd rather not have to ride to broken bus all the way to the promised land :/ (or at least be at the front, instead of the back) Just use the SMG, it will never get nerfed, and if it does, scramblers will go down first
496 for headshots in the hand of a pro? |
Sloth9230
Reaper Galactic
1991
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Posted - 2013.06.26 18:53:00 -
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Cosgar wrote: How often do you think people die to the FP outside of 30m?
Not very, though it is fun |
Sloth9230
Reaper Galactic
1993
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Posted - 2013.06.26 19:01:00 -
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DUST Fiend wrote: I'm a heavy
You poor thing |
Sloth9230
Reaper Galactic
2004
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Posted - 2013.06.27 01:20:00 -
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250 for a direct hit with the core flaylock, 396 for a proto scrambler head-shot
Now, if you not-"noobs"/vets/pros had the skills to actually use the scrambler properly, I'm sure you wouldn't be bitching about Flaylocks, but since you obviously don't... how about you use the flaylock?
ITT, bunch of scrubs complaining about flaylocks cause they're not as 733t as they thought they were |
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Sloth9230
Reaper Galactic
2074
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Posted - 2013.06.30 03:27:00 -
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Ydubbs81 RND wrote:Sloth9230 wrote:250 for a direct hit with the core flaylock, 396 for a proto scrambler head-shot Now, if you not-"noobs"/vets/pros had the skills to actually use the scrambler properly, I'm sure you wouldn't be bitching about Flaylocks, but since you obviously don't... how about you use the flaylock? ITT, bunch of scrubs complaining about flaylocks cause they're not as 733t as they thought they were You call players, "scrubs", that actually have to aim and hit the target in order to kill them? I guess only skilled players use flaylocks No, I call them scrubs when they're not good enough at aiming to beat noob tubes.
An AR user should have no problem beating a flaylock in combat, unless they can't actually aim.
So yeah... scrubs
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Sloth9230
Reaper Galactic
2074
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Posted - 2013.06.30 03:28:00 -
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Buster Friently wrote:Ydubbs81 RND wrote:Buster Friently wrote:AR is the biggest noob tube in the game. It's the easiest handheld weapon to kill with by a fair margin. Is this guy serious? Edit: Is this guy AND the guy that gave him a 'like' serious? We are. The AR is pathetically easy to use. No it's not, you have to like... aim |
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