I have played a few fps in my day and infantry prox mines will bring a whole new kind of QQ to the game. Bad bad bad idea.

I have played a few fps in my day and infantry prox mines will bring a whole new kind of QQ to the game. Bad bad bad idea.

infantry prox are fine as long as they arent OHK. give them wounding damage like 200, 215 and 230 dmg for proto.

Instead of only letting you unlock certain advance and proto tiers I suggest:





Grenadier: level 1 gives you 1 extra grenade, level 3 give your a second extra grenade and level 5 give you a third extra grenade for a total of 3 extra grenades a full 2 set of grenades.

demolitions: 1 extra active remote explosive per level, 1 extra proximity active explosive per level.

Another idea from a fellow enthusiast of things that go boom:

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REs should be powerful enough to blow up instillations as well...

this, also +1 to OP, good thread

bump

Unfriendly bump till the infantry proxy is removed.

No likey doe?

Neither of the Doe's likey

Edit: wait would it be Deer?!?

But it would be so effective against silly assaults that don't think before rushing in

And yes it's deer ^.^

Deer don't like easy kills.

Active scanners disrupt them within a certain range!

Yes, we need something so we can be called demolition experts! It would be nice to put 2 explosives on A and B and if B is being hacked then you would have the option to specifically blow that one up.

Maybe the explosive can detect the enemy in its blast radius and specifically detonate the one with activity while leaving A alone.

Something like that?

Instead of 4 Proximity Mines I would like to see 1 that make the job, and kill HAV.

Three days ago I mined bridge with 4 proto mines, Militia LAV came, 3 of mines blow up but LAV survive that - wtf?

CCP give us anty-HAV mines.

Thats sad.

In Chrome only 2 were required to destroy a militia LAV :(


Great post OP.

(*):RE/PMs do the same damage no matter what level(this is something that I noticed in chromosome as well no matter the level of RE/PM you use they do the exact same damage making using a single level 1 RE/PM is just as effective as using a single level 5 RE/PM having the different levels do more damage would be a welcome change to vehicle/installation destroyers){Change needed: Increase damage by level} edit: suggested by Cosgar remote explosives should have enough power for a single one to distroy a turret instalation. This gives them enough power to take out structures like the supply depote/cru that they are (aparently) ment to take down (going off the discription there which I will add)

It seems you want RE/PE to be more anti-vehicle and anti-structure. I'm cool with this. If that's the case, then sally fourth CCP and get this man some upgrades.

But with that, the infantry man is going to need some love as well. The common infantry soldier needs a HUD warning a la grenade indicator to notify them "hey stoopid, there's a remote explosive being thrown at you". If I can pick out a grenade being chucked, I'm fairly sure I can pick out a satchel of remote explosive.

Until we get indicators telling an infantry soldier where RE/PE's are placed(perfectly feasible), they really don't need any additional buffs. (Effectively) Invisible 1-shot mechanics are bulls**t.

Edit: Or make the things XBOX HUEG. To be fair, a grenade does what, 300 damage at max? The few times I've actually SEEN a remote explosive charge, it was about the same size as a grenade, yet literally does over 5x more damage. C4's a hell of a drug, yo.

Tanks should NOT have that beeping noise to warn them of Proximity Explosives UNLESS they have an Active Scanner module active

This is just asking for it, but it will be cool if we can use REs to breach in places. I was in the inner-city map in dom. So I noticed the city has a perimeter, If we breach it, we'll create different entry points!

You'll enjoy this sinboto, On my first corp battle as a scout, I went 6 6 0, They charged for D, they were taken out, 2 slipped by the defenses and began to double hack...you know what happened next. I blew them out the water! +50 +50. Of course my corpmates didn't notice, but I saved D.
I wish the explosions were bigger, since they are packing more heat then grenades.

I'll patiently wait for that 3-4 killfeed

Anti Infantry Remote Explosive would be heaven.

Would be nice if we could link the Remote explosive to the side arm slot so we could quickly switch with R2.

lets also get the bug fixed that makes them randomly disappear. out of a group of three its not uncommon to have 2 of them vanish immediately after dropping them

Remember RE=Remote Explosives and PM=Proximity Mines IPM:Infantry Proximity Mines

Also remember: my grammar is crap

Been useing the boundless RE/PM for quite a bit in both chromosome and uprising and while their have been some improvements made to the explosive they seem to have also taken a step back in effectiveness as well gonna list some things below (+)for positive change, (-)for negative change, (^) for things I personally would like added,and (*) for things that haven't changed.

(+):RE/PM now have their damage listed 1500 for RE, and 750 for pm.

(+):Increase to amount of RE/PMs carried,and or,deployed by level(this is good as it gives a reason to skill into more advanced REs/PMs as having that extra explosive on the field can be extremely useful.) {no change needed}

(-):RE/PM have the same splash radius across levels.(I have no idea what happened to get this change put through in uprising(for RE anyway PM always had this problem) but every RE/PM has a splash radius of 5.0m this is a strange change and I don't understand why this was done but if any changes to the RE/PM are done this one would be the most welcome.){Change needed:increase splash radius by level,or perhaps making it the skill bonus of 5%-10%? it needs one anyway}

(*):RE/PMs do the same damage no matter what level(this is something that I noticed in chromosome as well no matter the level of RE/PM you use they do the exact same damage making using a single level 1 RE/PM is just as effective as using a single level 5 RE/PM having the different levels do more damage would be a welcome change to vehicle/installation destroyers){Change needed: Increase damage by level} edit: suggested by Cosgar remote explosives should have enough power for a single one to distroy a turret instalation. This gives them enough power to take out structures like the supply depot/cru that they are (apparently) ment to take down (going off the description there which I will add)

(*):PM beeping when approached by a vehicle, the PM sends out a small beeping sound to warn a driver when they are about to run over them while not a problem against lavs as they move too fast to stop in time this makes them nearly impossible to use against heavy armor due to their ability to quickly halt movement at a moment's notice (fix:remove warning system until/if damage is increased)

(^):Sticky RE(the RE while certainly useful if it hits it's target is kinda obvious laying in the middle of the floor having them stick to walls,and perhaps vehicles, would be welcome)

(^):better looking explosions (not really anything to do with re/pm just something I'd like to see the 'explosions' we have now looks like the ground farted)

(^):Infantry proximity mines edit:propose the IPM do the same damage as grenades of their level(while I can see why this wouldn't be added would certainly make me happy to have PM that are triggered by infantry instead of vehicles,as a side effect would also make squads want to have a guy with a scanner on standby lol)

(^):suggested by Alaika Arbosa Flux Re/PM would be useful for setting up traps for both infantry and vehicles

(^) :suggested by shady merc sleek RE a remote explosive while having a larger blast radius would deal less damage good for weakening large groups of hostiles for an ambush or to have them retreat long enough to make an escape.

(^): suggested by Niuvo breaching walls and barricades this would most definitely be way down the road but using the RE to destroy sections of a wall/baricade and secure new ways to advance is a wonderful idea and adds a tactical layer to the RE.

Extra:not sure where to put this but it seems the ability to put multiple sets of the same PM has been removed, the ability to use diferint types is still there but this is a punishment to those that have pro proximity mines because they are unable to use their optimal fitting

If I think of anything else I'll edit this but for now:If you have any experience comments or suggestions about this topic please post below!

I will not rest until my beloved demolition speced equipment is improved,or I fall asleep,whichever comes first!

if remote explosive can kill full hp heavy its good enough ...

if remote explosive can kill full hp heavy its good enough ...

its awesome when u place an re and then it kills someone automatically. Maybe they threw a grenade? someone shot it? one time a placed an re and then a md spammed me and HE blew up, not me. rocking those f/45s

I like the idea of infantry proximity mines.


Munch

I like the idea of infantry proximity mines.

man getting things like this supported/fixed is difficult

I think RE dmg should stay the same through levels but get a bigger splash.

sin, how are the F/49s?

Just looking at the sp sink, explosives 3, then the equipment itself, level 2 just to try proximity, these things should be worth it. These should easily be the best LAV killers, but are a novelty toy at best.

on a side note, I was killed by proxies the other day.

I think the blast radius is gimped. its the same as grenades, yet when you blast one, the player survives even though he's close by. wtf

I've been caught in the explosion before. It smarted, but didn't kill me. I was like "oh, so that's how little damage they put out".

The few times I haven't fluxed a point before hacking, I've been killed by RE. Running gallente adv logi so maybe its just crappy armor tank that is getting me killed, but I digress.

A corpmate was complaing about proxis the other day, I told him to lay them in a V formation, about 30 secs later we were finishing of an LLAV that had been flipped over and put into half armor by his Proxis.

I agree the Proxi could get a slight buff, but if you can't get kills with these things, you're doing in wrong.

v formation, the open part should welcome cars right? Will a square be effective? how about a line, like a spike belt.

Unfortunately I've found that you need to run directly over the mines to set them off personally I use close lines of 3 -3 or set them in a slightly spread minefield of 2-2-2.

It shouldn't take that much effort just to guarantee a kill on a single LAV.

Being ignored for so long is actually kinda depressing lol

A lot of these suggestions have been floatin around the forums for a while. Let me add my favorite one into this

Disarm skill - hacking a RE/PM to disable it. Levels increase disarming speed.

I posted here before and liked the OP... not gonna read through 9 pages so ill just ask here possibly again.... are we gonna get something done about the random disappearing REs... cause that is effing annoying and gets me killed to often.... thanks... great post and all that shite.

I remember when proxies could flip an lav. that was cool, can they still do that? Do proxies suffer with hit detection issues like the mass driver did due to the speed of lavs ? speed tanking lavs ftw

May have to dig out my re fit tonight an play about with them as re's were fun in older builds.

I will feed back later. Keep up the good work

I remember when proxies could flip an lav. that was cool, can they still do that? Do proxies suffer with hit detection issues like the mass driver did due to the speed of lavs ? speed tanking lavs ftw

May have to dig out my re fit tonight an play about with them as re's were fun in older builds.

I will feed back later. Keep up the good work

I posted here before and liked the OP... not gonna read through 9 pages so ill just ask here possibly again.... are we gonna get something done about the random disappearing REs... cause that is effing annoying and gets me killed to often.... thanks... great post and all that shite.

As Proxies bump LAVs a bit, it means they very rarely flip them over.

Unfortunately, the bumping is a HINDRANCE to proxy users themselves as the first proxy goes off, the driving LAV just jumps over the rest of the minefield and is almost always safe.
That is the reason why some about three out of eleven mines on a field actually detonate. And three take some 20% shield off from a LAV. Which is sad.
I've even seen TANKS flying over minefields, partially because of bumping, partially because of poor 'hit detection'.

Is there a best way to place pms? please describe. I put them in squares.

Yes they just talked about possible sticky grenades so i hope sticky RE's are in our future!

How about a Mass Driver that fires sticky grenades (that take a few seconds to arm) and the ADS button detonates them? I already have a "Demoman" fitting. This would be the icing on the cake.

I just came.

Even if it was an auto detonation on death it would be better than nothing. Though that would be horrible in PC with friendly fire on.

You made the weekly feedback page, there probably isn't a need to bump this anymore unless you want to add thoughts after the 1.4 update.

I hope the REs can work properly in 1.6. Tired of the hockey puck-slide-magic trick.

I like the words that you type.

Your idea for range on the RE is backwards.

Instead of starting at 5.0 and working up, nerf the standards and keep the proto at 5.0 m.

If you think have a 7.0 meter blast radius is fair, then there is nothing more to be said, because that is just crazy.

Indeed, the blast radius increase is more for use against vehicles then infantry I realize this'll make escaping them harder hence the 'detonation timer'.

And on the other side of the coin what about RE users like myself?

Why is it that our more powerfull, more risky to use, and more skill based explosives only have 5 meter splash radius across the bord when the granades have OVER a 7 meter splash radius, we didn't ask to be ninja nerffed why were we not told our gear was taking such a massive direct hit to effectiveness?

So RE are confirmed as doing 1500 damage, and prox mines as doing 750? When did this get released?

Remember RE=Remote Explosives and PM=Proximity Mines IPM:Infantry Proximity Mines

Also remember: my grammar is crap

Been useing the boundless RE/PM for quite a bit in both chromosome and uprising and while their have been some improvements made to the explosive they seem to have also taken a step back in effectiveness as well gonna list some things below (+)for positive change, (-)for negative change, (^) for things I personally would like added,and (*) for things that haven't changed.

(+):RE/PM now have their damage listed 1500 for RE, and 750 for pm.

(+):Increase to amount of RE/PMs carried,and or,deployed by level(this is good as it gives a reason to skill into more advanced REs/PMs as having that extra explosive on the field can be extremely useful.) {no change needed}

(-):RE/PM have the same splash radius across levels.(I have no idea what happened to get this change put through in uprising(for RE anyway PM always had this problem) but every RE/PM has a splash radius of 5.0m this is a strange change and I don't understand why this was done but if any changes to the RE/PM are done this one would be the most welcome.){Change needed:increase splash radius by level,STD 5.5,ADV 6.5, PRO 7.5 ,or perhaps making it the skill bonus of 5%-10%? it needs one anyway}

(-):New bug REs are taking longer to activate randomly, direct impact of performance and needs to be fixed as soon as possible.

(*):RE/PMs do the same damage no matter what level(this is something that I noticed in chromosome as well no matter the level of RE/PM you use they do the exact same damage making using a single level 1 RE/PM is just as effective as using a single level 5 RE/PM having the different levels do more damage would be a welcome change to vehicle/installation destroyers){Change needed: Increase damage by level} edit: suggested by Cosgar remote explosives should have enough power for a single one to distroy a turret instalation. This gives them enough power to take out structures like the supply depot/cru that they are (apparently) ment to take down (going off the description there which I will add)

(*):PM beeping when approached by a vehicle, the PM sends out a small beeping sound to warn a driver when they are about to run over them while not a problem against lavs as they move too fast to stop in time this makes them nearly impossible to use against heavy armor due to their ability to quickly halt movement at a moment's notice (fix:remove warning system until/if damage is increased)

(^):Sticky RE(the RE while certainly useful if it hits it's target is kinda obvious laying in the middle of the floor having them stick to walls,and perhaps vehicles, would be welcome)

(^):better looking explosions (not really anything to do with re/pm just something I'd like to see the 'explosions' we have now looks like the ground farted ash)

(^):Infantry proximity mines edit:propose the IPM do the same damage as grenades of their level(while I can see why this wouldn't be added would certainly make me happy to have PM that are triggered by infantry instead of vehicles,as a side effect would also make squads want to have a guy with a scanner on standby lol)

(^): RE timer: A balance mechanic to make it more difficult to use REs against infantry, the idea would be to have a timer on the REs that activates when you hit the detonation reduced from STD to PRO REs, 2.5 for STD, 2.0 for ADV, and 1.5 for PRO this should help balance the proposal of increased splash radius so infantry has a chance to escape the blast should they see the RE last second.

(^):suggested by Alaika Arbosa Flux Re/PM would be useful for setting up traps for both infantry and vehicles

(^) :suggested by shady merc sleek RE a remote explosive while having a larger blast radius would deal less damage good for weakening large groups of hostiles for an ambush or to have them retreat long enough to make an escape.

(^): suggested by Niuvo breaching walls and barricades this would most definitely be way down the road but using the RE to destroy sections of a wall/baricade and secure new ways to advance is a wonderful idea and adds a tactical layer to the RE.

(^): Suggested by my brother Guinevere Bravo: Holding down R1 makes the REs/PMs arc upwards and be thrown farther, useful for getting an RE/PM over a baricade or tossing it into an area without putting yourself in another merc's kill zone.

(^):Suggested by Monkey Mac: I'd like a shaped charge variation! So the blast radius is only 0.25m sphereical, but it goes as far as 10m up from the top of the explosive!(where'd he come up with the idea for this) Useful for garding pasageways for sure though.

Extra:not sure where to put this but it seems the ability to put multiple sets of the same PM has been removed, the ability to use different types is still there but this is a punishment to those that have pro proximity mines because they are unable to use their optimal fitting

If I think of anything else I'll edit this but for now:If you have any experience comments or suggestions about this topic please post below!

I will not rest until my beloved demolition skilled equipment is improved,or I fall asleep,whichever comes first!

Edit:made the weekly update \o/

or just make flux anti-personnel prox mines. They'll cripple you but not kill you by themselves.

The main problem with anti-personnel mines is the massive amount of spam you'd see. People would put them everywhere.

(^):Suggested by Monkey Mac: I'd like a shaped charge variation! So the blast radius is only 0.25m sphereical, but it goes as far as 10m up from the top of the explosive!(where'd he come up with the idea for this) Useful for garding pasageways for sure though.