The ISK version of these will be in place tomorrow after downtime. We simply forgot to flip the switch on them.

The ISK version of these will be in place tomorrow after downtime. We simply forgot to flip the switch on them.

The ISK version of these will be in place tomorrow after downtime. We simply forgot to flip the switch on them.

The ISK version of these will be in place tomorrow after downtime. We simply forgot to flip the switch on them.

Still dont get the point of contact grenades. Cooking grenades was balanced because you had to time how long to cook and then throw whereas contact means instant kaboom no matter what situation you're in. Even worse is that it has the same blast radius and aoe damage as regular grenades.

A stupid thing to add imo.

Whats so good about these grenades?

Whats so good about these grenades?

When using these in the past I tended to kill myself more often than I killed the enemy. But maybe my aim has improved since then...

Weren't these removed in closed beta because they were so bad? Why bring them back now...?

Seriously, this is a really dumb idea.

The ISK version of these will be in place tomorrow after downtime. We simply forgot to flip the switch on them.

The ISK version of these will be in place tomorrow after downtime. We simply forgot to flip the switch on them.

I will never stop saying over and over and over and over and over again that ANY ISK OR AUR contact grenade IS A BAD IDEA and only encourages for aim to the feet behavior. Or last resort win button when close to die.

NONE should exist. Wanna insta nade someone ? frackin cook it !

I will never stop saying over and over and over and over and over again that ANY ISK OR AUR contact grenade IS A BAD IDEA and only encourages for aim to the feet behavior. Or last resort win button when close to die.

NONE should exist. Wanna insta nade someone ? frackin cook it !

I will never stop saying over and over and over and over and over again that ANY ISK OR AUR contact grenade IS A BAD IDEA and only encourages for aim to the feet behavior. Or last resort win button when close to die.

NONE should exist. Wanna insta nade someone ? frackin cook it !

I am guessing these have no bounce, which means for some players and some skills the timed ones will work out better. I've had some kills which were only possible because I was able to bounce the grenade.

There are other situations I don't care to describe, that mean that the traditional version still has its niche.

Of course, one of the two will be deemed the better one, so most people will end up using it. Is that a problem? Only if it makes grenades more powerful than we think they should be.

The Fused and Contact grenades require no skill, you're creating a bad gameplay. Please remove them.

The ISK version of these will be in place tomorrow after downtime. We simply forgot to flip the switch on them.

At least Grenades gobble up the nanohives now.

They come with a TAR and LAV also.

I just saw a propaganda poster flash through my mind.

A Caldari Logistics merc leaning on his LAV, TAC over one shoulder, fuse nade in the other, with a dropship in flames plummeting to the ground in the background.

Gorgeous.

Replace the Dropship with a HAV.

The ISK version of these will be in place tomorrow after downtime. We simply forgot to flip the switch on them.

They actually wouldn't be that bad if they only did like 300dmg. This way, they could be strategically used to dmg an opponent OR would need 2-3 nades to kill someone. This would balance them with the other grenade variants.

Haven't been on to check the market, but it they're 400dmg (at std level), they're similar in dmg to regular nades, making them superior.

No reason to use any grenade other than the fused locus.

The ISK version of these will be in place tomorrow after downtime. We simply forgot to flip the switch on them.

Please tell me you're going to makes these grenades prototype tier only!?
If the level needed is only 2 or 4.....
GG armor tankers. Nice playing with all of you.


This was a bad idea to implement. Surely you devs thought of a way to balance these grenades right?

How long till these get spammed?

Still dont get the point of contact grenades. Cooking grenades was balanced because you had to time how long to cook and then throw whereas contact means instant kaboom no matter what situation you're in. Even worse is that it has the same blast radius and aoe damage as regular grenades.

A stupid thing to add imo.

Now I'm just curious.

How did that HAV get all the way up there?

O.o

What is the ******* point of a scout if every ******* class can have impact grenades to kill us the second we get in effective range???? I mean I'm already getting blown apart in CQC by assault rifles, why not make the most gimped class even harder to play then it already is. Ugh! I'm so frustrated with this game!

Also, you nerfed RE because it was being used the way an impact grenade was. Then you introduce real impact grenades... Really???!!!

This is actually significantly worse then them just being in by mistake.

::sigh:: I have trouble liking this game these days

>_<

Also a warning, don't think that making these more expensive then regular grenades will balance them. If an item costs 20,000 ISK but can skillessly kill a proto in one hit, everyone will still field it.

fused locus grenades aren't that good.

Poor MD bastards, your gun is now useless
Wait... I'm a heavy ****

The ISK version of these will be in place tomorrow after downtime. We simply forgot to flip the switch on them.

how bout you all just stfu and deal with it like men

Seriously, you guys are playing it safe after you **** up the MD because you're afraid it might be OP, but you bring back goddamned Fuse Locus Grenades?!

Splash damage on all 6 shell of the Exo-5 (1 complex damage mod, prof 3) = 870 with a blast radius of 3.88.

Splash damage on all 6 shells of the Freedom (1 complex damage mod, prof 3) = 912 with a blast radius of 4.13.

Splash damage on all 3 contact grenades = 1200 with a blast radius of 6.00

Now I just need to figure out if I can pump out the 3 grenades faster than I can pump out the shells of my MD.

Save your self the trouble and use the Flaylock. Standard one does more damage than the Freedom anyway and reloads almost 3 times as fast and you get more ammo.

From one masshole to another, your optimism is adorable...

I was in closed beta and I remember the RE spam and the Cavity thunkker nade spam, no one wanted them other than the users. There tons of threads about them and you actually addressed the RE situation and the contact nade situation.

CCP you've forced my hand, I now will use the fused nades until the dust community is angry enough to create dozens of threads about contact nades to force your hand again because obviously you guys forgot what happened in closed beta.

At least Grenades gobble up the nanohives now.

lol same. im already spamming it.
let them release isk variants... going to buy soooo many and spam them so fkin hard... that players get permanent irritation from them.

Genuinely, I dont understand CCPs decision making process.

They were initially removed because they were game breaking (and yes no isk variant, but in reality they were game breaking). Now they are bringing them back.

Not that long agol grenade timers were shortened. They had to be changed back because shortened timers were game breaking. everyone was throwing them at each others feet not shooting.

Seriously, what the **** are you doing. Fix the mechanics and dont bring things into an FPS that shouldn't be there.

Completly agree...