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Parson Atreides
Ahrendee Mercenaries
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Posted - 2013.05.28 19:28:00 -
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Fargen Icehole wrote:They actually wouldn't be that bad if they only did like 300dmg. This way, they could be strategically used to dmg an opponent OR would need 2-3 nades to kill someone. This would balance them with the other grenade variants.
Haven't been on to check the market, but it they're 400dmg (at std level), they're similar in dmg to regular nades, making them superior.
No reason to use any grenade other than the fused locus.
Agreed, the damage or AoE needs to be significantly less than grenades that you have to cook or else it makes other grenades basically pointless.
Bad move CCP.
By the way, remember when grenades had like a second and a half fuse time and everyone was using them all the time instead of their main weapon? How is this going to be any different? |
Killar-12
The Unholy Legion of Darkstar
DARKSTAR ARMY
3
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Posted - 2013.05.28 19:55:00 -
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It would be better if these contact grenades blew up when they are touched by the user then they would be balenced. Instant suicide, that would be awesome.
Well LAVs TARs and now contact grenades. Why doesn't CCP put in a Automatic sidearm that shoots grenades without bullet drop that has no PG/CPU/Skill point requirements that instantly kill any vehicles that aren't LAVs in one shot and gives the user a 1000 point shield boost...
...and unlimited ammo. There that's a proper weapon to add to the game. |
Goat of Dover
IMPSwarm
Negative-Feedback
178
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Posted - 2013.05.28 19:57:00 -
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Wow my scouts KDR is fixing to drop. CQC is gonna be horrible. |
Sloth9230
Reaper Galactic
ROFL BROS
1511
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Posted - 2013.05.28 20:01:00 -
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1 mill per grenade I'm assuming? lol |
Drake435
Algintal Core
Gallente Federation
51
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Posted - 2013.05.28 20:05:00 -
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CCP Eterne wrote:The ISK version of these will be in place tomorrow after downtime. We simply forgot to flip the switch on them.
Please tell me you're going to makes these grenades prototype tier only!?
If the level needed is only 2 or 4.....
GG armor tankers. Nice playing with all of you.
This was a bad idea to implement. Surely you devs thought of a way to balance these grenades right? |
ladwar
Dead Six Initiative
Lokun Listamenn
512
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Posted - 2013.05.28 20:17:00 -
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Drake435 wrote:CCP Eterne wrote:The ISK version of these will be in place tomorrow after downtime. We simply forgot to flip the switch on them. Please tell me you're going to makes these grenades prototype tier only!? If the level needed is only 2 or 4..... GG armor tankers. Nice playing with all of you. This was a bad idea to implement. Surely you devs thought of a way to balance these grenades right?
give everyone the chance to have them. wait that's not balance? darn |
WhiskeyJack Otako
The Southern Legion
RISE of LEGION
53
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Posted - 2013.05.28 20:23:00 -
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Oh goodie, more grenade spam. Thanks CCP.
Could we also get LAV passenger ability to lob these grenades? Oh and increase the number we can carry to say 10 or so.
+1 to game suck. |
D legendary hero
One-Armed Bandits
Unclaimed.
32
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Posted - 2013.05.28 21:51:00 -
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Alldin Kan wrote:How long till these get spammed? 
thats why they need shield and armor hardeners, to counter "#$%@" like this. |
Greasepalms
Ahrendee Mercenaries
129
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Posted - 2013.05.28 21:53:00 -
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oh god... |
Bones McGavins
TacoCat Industries
266
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Posted - 2013.05.28 22:01:00 -
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This... may make me put down the game until its fixed. Ill wait until I try them tomorrow in the hot fix. But...in theory, this sounds like it will 100% break the game. Nano hive + contact nade spam... not fun. Maybe MAYBE if the range on it is like 2.0 or less... |
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Centurion mkII
SVER True Blood
Unclaimed.
58
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Posted - 2013.05.28 22:23:00 -
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As someone who used like 2000 shock suits please please don't let this happen. It was okay how un okay it was when there were just in merc packs. Now they will be everywhere? I don't think so ccp. Stop this. |
Eth Runbal
Tribal Band Dust Mercenaries
Tribal Band
2
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Posted - 2013.05.28 22:25:00 -
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Doc Noah wrote:Still dont get the point of contact grenades. Cooking grenades was balanced because you had to time how long to cook and then throw whereas contact means instant kaboom no matter what situation you're in. Even worse is that it has the same blast radius and aoe damage as regular grenades.
A stupid thing to add imo.
Cook grenades are still useful in situations where you need to bounce the grenade or want an airburst like throwing over a wall |
DJINN leukoplast
Hellstorm Inc
League of Infamy
469
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Posted - 2013.05.28 22:54:00 -
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ISK variant of fused nades tomorrow... ... 
Definitely going to be a lot of nade spam for sure, not sure what tier CCP will place it in or if there will be higher damage ones available, but this will be interesting.
I am not sure if I will use them or not, I have really honed my skills at cooking M1's and fused will have some disadvantages over being able to cook (like having it blow mid-air for somebody on a ledge/tabletop or something). Not to mention the fused will likely be limited to the basic damage rate (could you imagine a fused core ... oh my). |
J Falcs
Bojo's School of the Trades
64
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Posted - 2013.05.28 23:01:00 -
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Where are my contact flux grenades? My MD wants to know |
Veritas Vitae
Friendly Fire LLC
199
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Posted - 2013.05.28 23:07:00 -
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<- will officially respec as contact grenade noob. Make sure to drink your Haterade tomorrow. |
SoCal Ninja
IMPSwarm
Negative-Feedback
41
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Posted - 2013.05.28 23:21:00 -
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What is the ******* point of a scout if every ******* class can have impact grenades to kill us the second we get in effective range???? I mean I'm already getting blown apart in CQC by assault rifles, why not make the most gimped class even harder to play then it already is. Ugh! I'm so frustrated with this game!
Also, you nerfed RE because it was being used the way an impact grenade was. Then you introduce real impact grenades... Really???!!! |
Boomer Dues Mortis
D3ath D3alers
RISE of LEGION
108
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Posted - 2013.05.28 23:27:00 -
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I will enjoy this as a heavy, I get the drop on someone and they just use these grenades on me..... I feel real bad for scouts who will die instantly to these after sneaking up on someone. Dumbest weapon added so far ccp. But they do love the assault class who these will benefit the most. |
Doyle Reese
OSG Planetary Operations
Covert Intervention
57
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Posted - 2013.05.29 02:59:00 -
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DUST Fiend wrote:StubbyDucky wrote:DUST Fiend wrote:Jin Robot wrote:They come with a TAR and LAV also. I just saw a propaganda poster flash through my mind. A Caldari Logistics merc leaning on his LAV, TAC over one shoulder, fuse nade in the other, with a dropship in flames plummeting to the ground in the background. Gorgeous. Replace the Dropship with a HAV. Now I'm just curious. How did that HAV get all the way up there? O.o
because Dropships are so useless that CCP decided to do away with them entirely and replace them with flying HAVs?
Also, I agree with balancing it with either having lower AoE or lower damage |
Harkon Vysarii
Dead Six Initiative
Lokun Listamenn
342
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Posted - 2013.05.29 03:09:00 -
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Putting Fused Grenades back in the game was a terrible idea guys.... if armour tankers weren't rare enough they will be now.... |
Sloth9230
Reaper Galactic
ROFL BROS
1515
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Posted - 2013.05.29 03:14:00 -
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You guys whine when they're Aurum only, and you whine when there's ISK variants. Do you guys ever not whine? |
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Cass Barr
Red Star.
EoN.
85
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Posted - 2013.05.29 03:15:00 -
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Seriously I'm already starting to regret swapping to Gallente and these haven't even hit the market yet |
Eisen Sonnet
S.e.V.e.N.
Gentlemen's Agreement
12
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Posted - 2013.05.29 03:27:00 -
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So many people are going to blow themselves up. |
Celus Ivara
DUST University
Ivy League
13
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Posted - 2013.05.29 03:28:00 -
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Keep the grenades in game, as they are an interesting variant, but adjust their starts so they don't completely obviate the standerd cooking grenades. Cook grenades have a very nice Risk/Reward system going on that we want to keep in the forefront.
I'd suggest substantially decreasing both the explosion radius and damage of contact grenades. Make them great for softening up/finishing off an enemy, but not the insta-kill they presently are.
I'm concerned that even with that though, they may still be too powerful vs scouts. Scouts are quick though, ideally we'd be able to see the contact grenade coming and out maneuver it. But we'd have to wait and see if that turns out to be the case in game.
Also a warning, don't think that making these more expensive then regular grenades will balance them. If an item costs 20,000 ISK but can skillessly kill a proto in one hit, everyone will still field it. |
DUST Fiend
OSG Planetary Operations
Covert Intervention
3318
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Posted - 2013.05.29 03:33:00 -
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SoCal Ninja wrote:What is the ******* point of a scout if every ******* class can have impact grenades to kill us the second we get in effective range???? I mean I'm already getting blown apart in CQC by assault rifles, why not make the most gimped class even harder to play then it already is. Ugh! I'm so frustrated with this game!
Also, you nerfed RE because it was being used the way an impact grenade was. Then you introduce real impact grenades... Really???!!!
Shotgun scout is literally my favorite way to play this game.
Unfortunately. It's a ******* mess right now, scouts are in a horrible place overall, even the really good ones.
After a year of watching CCP "balance" their game, I can say with absolute confidence that they either have no clue what they're doing, or they just like to watch us flail around trying to keep up with them :/
I don't understand anymore.
AR Fatty for life
Snorlax style, bitches. |
Alaika Arbosa
Matari Combat Research and Manufacture Inc.
Interstellar Murder of Crows
244
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Posted - 2013.05.29 03:35:00 -
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DUST Fiend wrote:CCP Eterne wrote:The ISK version of these will be in place tomorrow after downtime. We simply forgot to flip the switch on them. This is actually significantly worse then them just being in by mistake. ::sigh:: I have trouble liking this game these days
>_<
I agree with the bolded portion of your statement, though I believe that FLG will provide those of us who refuse to spam a DTAR/GLU with many many lolz.
I'll die to them tons of times too, but so will Protoscrubs with DTARs which will make it all worth it in my eyes. |
Sloth9230
Reaper Galactic
ROFL BROS
1515
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Posted - 2013.05.29 03:35:00 -
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Celus Ivara wrote:
Also a warning, don't think that making these more expensive then regular grenades will balance them. If an item costs 20,000 ISK but can skillessly kill a proto in one hit, everyone will still field it.
Risk vs reward. |
Vicious Minotaur
Tronhadar Free Guard
Minmatar Republic
28
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Posted - 2013.05.29 03:40:00 -
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I've been wanting Fused Locus grenades for quite some time. That being said, they are not balanced properly. They ought to do less damage and have less of a blast radius to balance out the fact it requires no skill to use. They could alow be only proto-level, and carry reduced numbers of grenades, like one or two. I'm sure that there are even more ways to balance them. |
xprotoman23
Internal Error.
Negative-Feedback
1650
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Posted - 2013.05.29 03:42:00 -
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fused locus grenades aren't that good. |
Veritas Vitae
Friendly Fire LLC
202
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Posted - 2013.05.29 03:50:00 -
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xprotoman23 wrote:fused locus grenades aren't that good.
I hear you spam core locus grenades and get double kills all day.
Confirm/Deny? |
Rupture Reaperson
Deadly Blue Dots
RISE of LEGION
154
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Posted - 2013.05.29 08:48:00 -
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Oh great, ****** grenade detection + fused nades. Prepare to blow up out of the blue, everyday, ALL DAY. |
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