Apparently not crippling enough otherwise I wouldn't still see entire squads of Heavies running around like they were Assaults.

So, you're saying that you don't like having your objectives stay held? That is what I am hearing when you say "nearly useless".

Also, your assessment of the "point defense" playstyle as being "completely boring" is 100% subjective. I happen to like "point defense" (though I also like my teams objectives staying blue).

I have to agree, that I would like small turrets back, though if they were unmanned HMGs what would be the point of the Heavy then?

Am I the only one who doesn't want the Heavy suit to be relegated to the Crutch-specialized Assault Suit?

I ran Heavy/Logi in Chromosome, your declaration of my "obvious cluelessness" is purely opinion.

Heavies are supposed to be Heavies (a dropsuit class all their own), not the crutch-specialized Assault suit.

Also, your statement that calling me ridiculous isn't offensive is also opinion. I could very well be offended by that (not saying that I am or am not), though someone else could also feel that it is offensive. Therefore, your statement is subjective.

LOL at this post!

the only time the role of "point defense" for a heavy is viable is the 3 point map(even here it is only rarely)! On 5 point maps I have sat for literally a third of the match at an objective to defend it, but nothing ever happened!

A full squad can go from one objective to an objective being contested, kill enemy forces, and take back the objective more efficiently than a heavy could stay behind to defend it.

Most squads stay together, so if a heavy stays behind it is usually by themselves. Then, the zerging enemy suads rush in and easily overwhelm said heavy in numbers and CQC manueverability, and take the objective.

So tell me, in which one of those scenarios which occur in 99% of matches does the heavy as "point defense" seem useful or exciting to play?

I would much rather keep pace with my squad, to defend them by laying down suppressive fire on enemies, allowing my squad to perform flanking maneuvers. Then when Enemies are dealt with, I could hold them off as they respawn while my squad hacks the objectives and installations.

Which playstyle seems more useful and exciting to you?

in the description it says the heavy suit is supposed to be resistant to small arms fire and small explosives. making the shields and armor take 30% less damage (expect headshots which get the full bonus) would make that phrase true and help further accomplish CCP's vision of the heavy becoming a miniature tank for squad protection.


making the heavy harder to kill and more effective will force players to fight tactically against them using flux grenades, and different weaponry.

no suit is ever going to used for what it's meant only.

+3% to _______ damage per level

You're missing something though, we don't have LMGs in Dust, we have HMGs in Dust.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Heavy_machine_gun

Let's see someone move with a squad with a Ma-Deuce carrying it while firing to provide suppressive fire.

Also, all caps do not a good point make. You may want to calm down, high blood pressure can be deadly.

you also forget, the lmg guy can carry it himself... hmmm oh wait my heavy carries the hmg himself? i guess they have them same role. but, since its the future everything got beefed.


also, yeah, spewing out sarcasm don't make you sound smart, it just makes you easier to identify as a jerk troll, watch yourself*. the CAPs are to make the main points standout from the text. especially for those who dnt want to read the text, such as yourself.

And you can only fire the Shotgun thanks to the "pneumatic armature".

Without things like that and the augmentations our suits have (as well as the protection the suits provide) we wouldn't be able to even fire the majority of the weapons.

Please take this somewhere else if you two are going to continue bickering like an old married couple.

Now please stick to the topic, this thread IS NOT about the HMG, nor is it about any other weapon. IT IS ABOUT THE HEAVY SUIT.

it needs something, but that's a huge percentage.

here's my issue: if i point my ar at a suit within optimal, i get 110% against armour and against shields, why don't i get those kinds of numbers when i'm looking down my hmg scope?

look at my eariler posts. 30% will still allow a heavy to get killed in one clip from a basic assault rifle. but it will punish people who have poor arm or use no tactics.

Apparently not crippling enough otherwise I wouldn't still see entire squads of Heavies running around like they were Assaults.

But that amount does mean that when we get armor and shield hardeners (something I'm hoping for) that you can stack a couple on +skills that increase their efficacy (thanks CCP Remnant ) = >50% damage reduction.

20% or *25% seems resonable to me. (see post #71) *when I made post #71 I forgot to factor in damage mods.

except this doesnt happen

Are you seeing through my eyes? Are you spying on what I see on my TV?

No?

Then how do you know that?

I have seen entire squads of Heavies running around with DTARs and GLUs within the last week.

Don't tell me I don't see what I see and stop trying to drag me into a stupid argument so you can beat me with experience.

Hmm.. Perhaps I should elaborate on my posts. Firstly, when I say Heavy, I mean Sentinel, why should this effect the basic suit? No other bonuses effect basic suits.

When I'm talking about the Hardener skill I'm talking about it leveling the same as all others:

CHARTS!!! (number is level) (going off of the 25% resistance)

1. 5% resistance


2. 10% resistance


3. 15% resistance


4. 20% resistance


5. 25% resistance

So in order to actually get the bonus you need to have actually put SP into it.

why do you keep posting here? im here becaue its my post. stop trolling bro

hmmm... i still feel the percent should be a bit higher.

Only problem: Needs a WHOOOOLE lotta skill points.

Thought about it, remembered something else that might make you happy.

Currently no one knows if it's a bug or intentional, but all Minmatar Basic Suits get +1 armor rep per second.

If it's intentional and CCP is planning on doing more things like this, then they could use my 25% scaling + a base of 5% on all Sentinel dropsuits. That gets it up to the 30% that you wanted, but only once you've reached level 5.