Slow them down more? That's crazy talk bro! Heavies are slow enough trust me.

The medium and light classes can walk backwards faster than heavies can sprint! Making us any slower would only further gimp us as a class!

again that is a description of a blaster turret. if its only to be a situational st. i should have to spec over 6 million SP into it. only to use every 5 matches, and get pwnd in my assault set up that has no points in it.

EHP of a Mil TANK? Maybe a fair bit lower but, a good 1.5, 2 times the Assualts or Logis EHP. Just saying this because if you whip out your 60,000 isk Proto Heavy and wreck my 200,000 Mil tank, there is a slight issue. And no infantry should be slower then the Heavy is right now. Infantry are supposed to be AHEAD of the tanks. Not Behind them.

everyone stop talking about slowing down the heavy. if you cant hit the heavy now, then you cant ******* shoot. i play heavy, but i can hit them with a militia sniper and do massive damage, because their slow. the heavy should run faster than it is now.

NO! I AM NOT SAYING THE HEAVY SHOULD BE AS FAST AS AN ASSAULT, A LOGI, OR SCOUT!

BUT THE HEAVY SHOULD BE FAST ENOUGH TO BE ABLE TO PARTICIPATE IN THE GAME. If my entire squad is running to an objective, i should be behind them (if they all stop at the objective while i catch up) by no more than 6 seconds.

a logi, and a scout should still be fast enough to circle me (because my turning speed will still be just as slow as it is now anyway). shotgunners will still be able to do damge to me. and snipers from a far will still see me moving in slow motion. but at least i can keep up with the team, move to key position in time to engage enemies, and help push the frontline forward (after i get there).

I mean really, a heavy is bad a point defense, because his scanners are crap, and my sig is so hgh everyone can see me. if the one guy that does eventually come at the end of the match is any good, he'll chuck a flux and start shooting me before i can turn or runway and im gone. plus, seriously? i've fought assualts that get in a 1v1 no cover fiefight with me get their shields stript and then runn away so fast my bulets cant hit them anymore. are you on crack?

I wouldn't carry an active scanner, I'd just level up my skills that increase precision and radius. Maybe put on some modules that help out.

How would a heavy earn WP if all he does is camp a hacked objective and make would be attackers flee but not kill them? It is Illogical!

Here is an Idea, instead of completely restricting Heavies to the nearly useless and completely boring playstyle of "point defense"

give logis the ability to deploy unmanned HMG turrets at objectives.

Give heavies a bit more speed and HP, and add the changes to the HMG that I suggested earlier under category (a) to be able to be somewhat more useful in combat.

LOL at this post!

the only time the role of "point defense" for a heavy is viable is the 3 point map(even here it is only rarely)! On 5 point maps I have sat for literally a third of the match at an objective to defend it, but nothing ever happened!

A full squad can go from one objective to an objective being contested, kill enemy forces, and take back the objective more efficiently than a heavy could stay behind to defend it.

Most squads stay together, so if a heavy stays behind it is usually by themselves. Then, the zerging enemy suads rush in and easily overwhelm said heavy in numbers and CQC manueverability, and take the objective.

So tell me, in which one of those scenarios which occur in 99% of matches does the heavy as "point defense" seem useful or exciting to play?

I would much rather keep pace with my squad, to defend them by laying down suppressive fire on enemies, allowing my squad to perform flanking maneuvers. Then when Enemies are dealt with, I could hold them off as they respawn while my squad hacks the objectives and installations.

Which playstyle seems more useful and exciting to you?

you also forget, the lmg guy can carry it himself... hmmm oh wait my heavy carries the hmg himself? i guess they have them same role. but, since its the future everything got beefed.


also, yeah, spewing out sarcasm don't make you sound smart, it just makes you easier to identify as a jerk troll, watch yourself*. the CAPs are to make the main points standout from the text. especially for those who dnt want to read the text, such as yourself.

And you can only fire the Shotgun thanks to the "pneumatic armature".

Without things like that and the augmentations our suits have (as well as the protection the suits provide) we wouldn't be able to even fire the majority of the weapons.

Please take this somewhere else if you two are going to continue bickering like an old married couple.

Now please stick to the topic, this thread IS NOT about the HMG, nor is it about any other weapon. IT IS ABOUT THE HEAVY SUIT.

except this doesnt happen

why do you keep posting here? im here becaue its my post. stop trolling bro

Problem is, 40% is kinda crap. On 400 armor that increases it to ~660 EHP, an increase of 260 EHP. That's barely 2x Complex Armor Plates. If it takes 4x Armor Hardeners to get 40% it isn't worth it at all.

My opinion is that 50% - 75% is the best spot for resistance. At 400 HP of armor; 50% makes it 800 EHP and 75% makes it 1600 EHP. And if resistance only applies to small caliber weapons (not snipers and shotguns) then it makes the heavy the Assault busting tank everyone wants, while still making it easily countered by snipers and shotguns.

except this doesnt happen

Well without dropsuit that boost strength it's impossible but then why are you making a comparison in real life to a game that takes place thousands of years in the future,where you jump out of a spaceship for all intents and purposes, flip automobiles, and have shields. i know military tech is advanced but dont see many marines wearing complex shield extenders, in real life nobody does these things. Logic people come on.