The sooner CCP realizes this, is the sooner DUST can become a far better game. Trying to please people that click on boxes, and look at spreadsheets while preaching "HTFU" and chanting "Welcome to New Eden" will be the downfall of this game.

Looking at only data while ignoring feedback, is a guaranteed way of unbalancing the game. Duvolle Tact. is fine btw

What are asking for here exactly? It sounds like you want a CoD/BF clone with a placebo spread sheet. Can I get some details on what you want?

Is that the only thing, you guys can say to prove you point ?; "It sounds like you want a CoD/BF clone"

That is getting old now... try something new.

One could argue that the sooner you realize that CCP as a development studio has a unique way of doing things that you need to come to terms with....the better.

Furthermore, having knee-jerk emotional reactions to gaming balance without looking at data is a quicker route to failure than making informed, educated decisions.

Is that the only thing, you guys can say to prove you point ?; "It sounds like you want a CoD/BF clone"

That is getting old now... try something new.

Is that the only thing, you guys can say to prove you point ?; "It sounds like you want a CoD/BF clone"

That is getting old now... try something new.

Just to make you rage a little. It is not eve it is New Eden and some things should carry over. Eve is in the name and what not. Chill out dude, all these problems will work out over time. We are here for the long run and we want a robust, deep and hardcore shooter. Sit back, collect tears and enjoy the game as it is and what it will be.

CCP development style suits PC gamers.

Pretty sure I said looking @ data while ignoring feedback...

so yeah, just looking at data for a FPS has not been working out well has it?

What are asking for here exactly? It sounds like you want a CoD/BF clone with a placebo spread sheet. Can I get some details on what you want?

I am curious to what they want. The devs listen and then implement fixes and I am very confused what he wants the game to be like because I thought DUST is what it is and not something game. We are different than eve in lots of different ways, I just don't get it I guess.

It's working fine. Your timelines for perfection is unrealistic.

CCP's development style suits gamers that want something more than just the run of the mill clones in their genre.

They revolutionized the space sim game and have laid the groundwork to do something great in the fps space. There is no doubt it will take time.

who said anything about CoD or BF?

I said DUST isn't EVE and you bring up these games?

I'm lost...

Simple really... is only one "recipe" you can follow to make a FPS... the fact that everyone follows the same recipe, doesn't means that you "Copying" other people... You just using the working "Formula", that has been effective for DECADES of gaming.

One could argue that the sooner you realize that CCP as a development studio has a unique way of doing things that you need to come to terms with....the better.

Furthermore, having knee-jerk emotional reactions to gaming balance without looking at data is a quicker route to failure than making informed, educated decisions.

You wonder why people tell you to 'go play cod' when you're advocating that games have to follow the 'cod' formula to be a 'working formula'

If you want cod, go play cod, i saw an advertisement for a new one. Meanwhile, I'll be here hoping for a revolutionary gaming experience that redefines the formula. *fingers crossed*

right... so taking them months to fix aiming falls perfectly into their timing I guess.

Also gun balancing issues...nah, CCP has their data for that...which btw, they've messed up a couple times while applying numbers.

I've always been cynical about how CCP handles their game for the console crowd. So you can be as optimistic as you want, while I stay as cynical as I want.

I'll give them props, but I'll point out flaws. Some people just all out CCP fanboys... *cough*eveplayers*cough* which is doing nothing to help DUST.

CCP development style suits PC gamers.

Pretty sure I said looking @ data while ignoring feedback...

so yeah, just looking at data for a FPS has not been working out well has it?

Did i say CoD ?... i talking about DECADES ago ... when the 1st FPS game where made, every one still uses that formula...

All FPS games have similarities with each other... do you ever wonder why ?

Did i say CoD ?... i talking about DECADES ago ... when the 1st FPS game where made, every one still uses that formula...

All FPS games have similarities with each other... do you ever wonder why ?

Just because it is popular doesn't mean it is good or correct. All other fps have the same problems but their games have a 6-8 month life span and it is not a big deal. We were in beta linger than most games live and release may not be the game we wanted but it is the game we have. Starting off a new thread calling eve players stupid isn't the best way to make friends or engage in conversations that are supposed to be constructive.

You asking CCP to do the impossible .... and you don't want to be call stupid ?

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It's working fine. Your timelines for perfection is unrealistic.

CCP's development style suits gamers that want something more than just the run of the mill clones in their genre.

They revolutionized the space sim game and have laid the groundwork to do something great in the fps space. There is no doubt it will take time.

Just because it is popular doesn't mean it is good or correct. All other fps have the same problems but their games have a 6-8 month life span and it is not a big deal. We were in beta linger than most games live and release may not be the game we wanted but it is the game we have. Starting off a new thread calling eve players stupid isn't the best way to make friends or engage in conversations that are supposed to be constructive.